Rumor: 2022-2023 Trade Rumors and Free Agency (Mod Warning in OP)

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It won't happen, but a very small taxi squad (i.e. 2-3 players) would be a really good option for both the players and the NHL. Gives guys like Subban, Kessel, Stastny, etc. an option to stay on a competitive team, can earn close to what they would anyways, and give teams a bit more breathing room considering half the teams are going to have to ice a 20 man roster at this point.

On another note, I think there's going to be some very interesting players on waivers this year and even more that people will be surprised that go unclaimed, simply because very few teams will have cap space at the start of the season.
 
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Stastny on a cheap 1 year deal as a placeholder wouldn't be the worst thing. I think he is better than Rodriquez. 1 year 2 mil or something. And he wouldn't cost any assets. Plus he had 21 goals and 45 points so it's not like he is washed up.

I'm not sure of the dynamics of bringing him back but everyone knows this is a buisness. Ride it out until the trade deadline and make a move then if we have to.
 
F*** Stastny. Wish he was part of the revenge tour. Guy has had several chances to return to the Avs when the Avs actually needed him and spurned the Avs every time to secure the fattest contract possible.

Which is fine, dude is one of the smartest players to ever play in the NHL when it comes to signing contracts. But I'm happy he plays elsewhere now.

100% nailed it
 
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Stastny on a 1 year deal and then 1st + Olausson for Miller at the deadline:



Landy - Mack - Nuke
Lehky - Miller - Mikko
JTC - Stastny - Newhook
LOC - Helm - Cogliano
Meyers


Toews - Makar
Girard - Manson
Byram - EJ
MacNorris/MacDermis


George/Frank
 
Coming from a guy who's been on the Staz train for years, no thanks. I think that ship has sailed and he doesn't fit the style of Bednar at all.

Also lol on people wanting Toews @50% all of a sudden. I was roasted for suggesting it a few months ago. This was before Chicago went all kamikaze though. I think it makes sense it's at the deadline at this point. I'm wondering how he would fit in the locker room, but I think he'd be rejuvenated, and shouldn't cost too much. I still think we have a shot at one of the big fish out there though
Who's calling for Toews at 50%? I've been :deadhorse on trying to get Patrick Kane at 50% using Newhook as the main piece in spurts over the last few months. Capt. Serious, even at 50% isn't an upgrade on rolling with JTC/Meyers/Newhook/Rants and waiting for a Bo Horvat like thing in season. Gotta hope JTC plays a part in that trade if it happens because we ain't got much else at this point having used Newhook and whatever else it takes to get Kane. Basically Toews just isn't a good fit, especially for my dreams. *LOL*


Anyways, baring a trade/signing of a 2C, this is kinda what I would like to see to begin the season.
1. Trade Newhook + for Patrick Kane @ 50%
2. Role with JTC/Meyers at 2C to start and work on a trade in season for Bo Horvat reduced involving (hopefully JTC and picks) Rants and Landy could always spot duty at 2C during the interim as well.
3. Patrick Kane pushes Lehks back to the 3rd line. That means we have that defensive pain in the ass on the wings for all 4 lines. Does it get deeper and tougher than Landy-Nuke-Lehks-Cogs?
4. Sign a 3rd RW/C - Got to get help here one way or another as I don't think LOC has proven to be able to keep the energy up with these minutes over the course of the season to be counted on to start here on the RW.
5. By the trade deadline, trade for an additional 3rd line winger if we trade JTC or anyone in a move involving a 2nd line C. We'll want insurance for win/in case we need to move Lehks up to the 2nd line in the playoffs due to injuries.
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  • Byram-EJ (this third pairing is going to get a lot more minutes than a normal 3rd and/or Byram will be giving others a breather a bunch throughout games)
  • MacDermid
    • Callups should be MacDonald? England/Hunt? I'm not sure are guys like Zhuravlyov, Leivermann, Clurman, Jacobs actually good enough to be a better call up than MacDonald, England or Hunt? I would think Behens would be a bit green this season even if he signs and plays in the AHL right?
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    • Seriously, I consider Pavel a true top-quality backup. That being said, I don't really view him as a 1B if you know what I mean. That being the case, when was the last time a Stanley Cup champion received/needed as many wins from their backup as we got. I'm sure the list is much larger than what I am thinking but the few that I can think of really seem to be a case of a changing of guards where your backup has really outgrown the role and was ready to either take over anyways or was forcing a trade basically due to having two #1s.
Sorry for the extremely long post. If you made it this far give yourself a cookie...or better yet a brownie and feel free to respond, I'd actually love to hear constructive criticism of my idea (as well as the inevitable realists telling me while it'll never happen in a million years).

Oh, also, in case you sneaked down to the end of the post before committing to reading...he's some mood music:
 
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I’d give Toews (at 50% or less) a look if we can’t land Miller, Nelson, etc.

Also assuming we don’t give up a premium asset (Newhook, 1st, OO, Behrens).

Last year of his deal see if he can hold 2C on an actual team with support around him.
 
I’d give Toews (at 50% or less) a look if we can’t land Miller, Nelson, etc.

Also assuming we don’t give up a premium asset (Newhook, 1st, OO, Behrens).

Last year of his deal see if he can hold 2C on an actual team with support around him.
What assets are you using for Toews at 50% if those aren't included? JTC and a 2nd or 3rd isn't enough is it?
 
Jonathan Toews with retention would be a sneaky good addition. He has lots of legs left.

60 points a year ago. 81 before that. And he is still a premier defensive forward and faceoff guy.
 
Stastny on a cheap 1 year deal as a placeholder wouldn't be the worst thing. I think he is better than Rodriquez.

No, and No.

Stastny doesn´t fit our playing-style at all. And no, he is not better than Rodriquez.
 
Hypothetically we could fit Patrick Kane and Jonathan Toews in if both have 50% retained.

Girard and Compher would have to go back the other way and probably a 1st and a prospect (Kaut)

That would still leave us with 1.7m to sign a Dman (JJ)

Landeskog- Mackinnon- Rantanen
Nichushkin- Toews- Kane
Lehkonen- Newhook- O'Connor
Cogliano- Meyers- Helm

Toews - Makar
Byram - Manson
JJ- EJ

That would be a pretty sick lineup. Sign both Toews and Kane two decent 2 year deals so they aren't rentals.

Mackinnon, Kane, Rantanen, Makar 90- 100 point potential
Landeskog, D.Toews 70- 80 point potential
Nichushkin, Lehkonen, J. Toews 50-60 point potential
Byram, Newhook 40-50 point potential
 
Hypothetically we could fit Patrick Kane and Jonathan Toews in if both have 50% retained.

Girard and Compher would have to go back the other way and probably a 1st and a prospect (Kaut)

That would still leave us with 1.7m to sign a Dman (JJ)

Landeskog- Mackinnon- Rantanen
Nichushkin- Toews- Kane
Lehkonen- Newhook- O'Connor
Cogliano- Meyers- Helm

Toews - Makar
Byram - Manson
JJ- EJ

That would be a pretty sick lineup. Sign both Toews and Kane two decent 2 year deals so they aren't rentals.

Mackinnon, Kane, Rantanen, Makar 90- 100 point potential
Landeskog, D.Toews 70- 80 point potential
Nichushkin, Lehkonen, J. Toews 50-60 point potential
Byram, Newhook 40-50 point potential

Yep, this lineup would cause nightmares and strike fear in every single of the western teams.....

Shut down our 1st line + Toews and Makar... Well good luck with our 2nd wave Toews/Kane/Nuke/Byram/Manson......

I doubt Chicago will do it. :D
 
Hypothetically we could fit Patrick Kane and Jonathan Toews in if both have 50% retained.

Girard and Compher would have to go back the other way and probably a 1st and a prospect (Kaut)

That would still leave us with 1.7m to sign a Dman (JJ)

Landeskog- Mackinnon- Rantanen
Nichushkin- Toews- Kane
Lehkonen- Newhook- O'Connor
Cogliano- Meyers- Helm

Toews - Makar
Byram - Manson
JJ- EJ

That would be a pretty sick lineup. Sign both Toews and Kane two decent 2 year deals so they aren't rentals.

Mackinnon, Kane, Rantanen, Makar 90- 100 point potential
Landeskog, D.Toews 70- 80 point potential
Nichushkin, Lehkonen, J. Toews 50-60 point potential
Byram, Newhook 40-50 point potential
Trading Girard for rentals would be a great way to end this teams window in 2023.

Also in your lineup the bottom 6 should be:

Lehkonen - Meyers - Newhook
Cogliano - Helm - O'Connor
 
Jonathan Toews with retention would be a sneaky good addition. He has lots of legs left.

60 points a year ago. 81 before that. And he is still a premier defensive forward and faceoff guy.
The 60pts season came in 2019-2020, that's ancient history and not "a year ago".
 
It's the dog days of summer and there are so many free agents unsigned. Is it me or this off-season has a different pace then previous years?
 
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It's the dog days of summer and there are so many free agents unsigned. Is it me or this off-season has a different pace then previous years?
A lot of the usual big spenders either were not appealing to FA's this time around or they backed themselves into a salary cap corner and cannot spend where they normally would.
Plus, unloading contracts has become lucrative for other teams so many are refusing to just allow a dump without draft considerations.

I have no doubt once the cap goes up steadily in the future we will see a return to normal though.
 
Did Drury switch to LW that season with Yelle centering him and Hejduk, or am I confusing my memory of NHL99 with real life? I think I had Messier and Podein as pretty much staples on the third in my memory.

I can't remember. I know Drury played some with Yelle, but based on some crash research, it looks like Yelle mostly played with Corbet and Donovan (until the former was dealt to Calgary).

The next season is when Yelle started to play with Messier and Podein, but it was more Reid and Podein. Messier was still more of an extra forward/defenseman at that point; he only played 17/38 playoff games from 1999-2000, while averaging a measly 4:52 in TOI. That changed in 2001 obviously when he was a big contributor on the third line.
 
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Toews isn’t the best option, but he is a viable option at 50% retention. If we strike out on the better options I’d send Bowers over to the hawks and run with him as our 2c/3c with JTC.
 
I think we will start the season with a placeholder as 2C and will do everything possible to trade for a 2C with one more year of salary at around $5M between now and the deadline, and we will sacrifice Newhook to get there, unless Newhook proves this year that he can be the 2C for this year's playoff run. If he can't prove that he can do that this year n the first healf of the year, he will become too expensive for a 3rd line forward on his new contract. It is 2C or trade for Newhook I think. Otherwise he'll be used to get someone like Gourde, who would be our 2C for this Cup run and the next.
 
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Unless Toews comes with 75% retention, I’d have zero interest in having to dump cap just to add Toews.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but trading for Toews mid-season would lessen his cap hit, correct? Between that and banking a little cap space here and there during the season along with the free space we have now, I think we should be able to do it.

But yea I agree I’m not dumping cap/useful players just to get Toews onto the team. So if that’s the case, then yes I’d only do it if there was enough retention to avoid that.
 
Correct me if I’m wrong, but trading for Toews mid-season would lessen his cap hit, correct? Between that and banking a little cap space here and there during the season along with the free space we have now, I think we should be able to do it.

But yea I agree I’m not dumping cap/useful players just to get Toews onto the team. So if that’s the case, then yes I’d only do it if there was enough retention to avoid that.
Ok understood. I didn’t realize you meant to wait to acquire him.

Yes, obviously if we banked cap space we’d be able to get him without shipping out money.

Even still, I’m not all that interested. Feels like he’s in the middle 6C stage rather than 2C. Sure he may be rejuvenated going for a cup, but I wouldn’t want to count on him as the 2C for a full playoff run.

If we’re gonna bank cap space, might as well try to go for a better 2C since we’ll have the space to absorb a much bigger hit later on in the season.
 
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I’m a big defender of Toews’s peak against revisionist HFBoards memes, but whatever health problem he’s been having seem to have just taken too much out of him. Don’t want him even at 50%
 
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