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dahrougem2 said:
Meh. Maybe, maybe not. I know if I was a player on that 13-14 team like MacKinnon and we just won the division as an up-and-coming team I'd be a little pissed off that my linemate spurned us for our division rival.
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If management is actually interested in stastny they will for sure run it by the core group who’d have any hard feelings.
 
Avs_19 said:
Can we just get some Avs news already? Anything. Please.

Many reasons to not sign Stastny and one is that he may be unavailable for the Avs if he shows up on surveillance during the Jan 6th hearing. Can't have that happen.

Anyways, where the **** is that cinnamon bun recipe @henchman24?
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Dude… Thursday
 
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dahrougem2 said:
Meh. Maybe, maybe not. I know if I was a player on that 13-14 team like MacKinnon and we just won the division as an up-and-coming team I'd be a little pissed off that my linemate spurned us for our division rival.
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He let the Avs think he would stay, and left as a UFA thus without compensation. I remember the Avs kinda felt off guard as he signed with the Blues for less than what the Avs offered.

In the end, I found the Avs a little naive, it was written on the wall he would sign for Saint Louis
 
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AvsFan29 said:
I seriously doubt Byram would accept a max term contract at 5.5-6m

I'd be unbelievably happy, but I don't see it happening.

Even at $7m x 8, you have Makar-Byram locked up for $16m. Solid.
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I think both parties will find a bridge deal to be in their best interests.
 
AvalancheSpeedsters said:
Last year was his first season back after missing a whole year so I’ll give him some slack , in a limited checking role he’d be fine . A shame his contract is too horrific to even take at a discount
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They retain 50% his cap hit goes down to $5.25M (a real dollar cost of $1.45M) and you send JTC the other way it's adding a net of $1.75.

I think Armstrong's plan is to make Toews and Kane so miserable they'll gladly take a deadline deal.
 
Hasbro said:
I think both parties will find a bridge deal to be in their best interests.
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I doubt Sakic would consider it to be in the teams best interests.

What if they offer a 2 year bridge, and Byram ends up on the top pairing with Makar. Goes off and scores back to back 80 point seasons.

The cap has gone up for 3 years straight by the time the bridge is over.

Now Byram wants 10.5-11.5m

Now you're paying $20m for your top pairing instead of $15.5-16

Big difference.

Also, Makar will only have 2 years left on his contract at that point. What does he get on his next contract? 14? 15?

Could be paying $25+m for our top 2 defencemen in 5 years.

They will also be in their primes in 5 years. Byram will be 26 and Makar will be 28. We will lose one of them if we don't lock Byram down long term asap.
 
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AvsFan29 said:
I seriously doubt Byram would accept a max term contract at 5.5-6m

I'd be unbelievably happy, but I don't see it happening.

Even at $7m x 8, you have Makar-Byram locked up for $16m. Solid.
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He hasn't earned that yet. If he was offered that he'd jump on it real fast.

There aren't many comparables but even Roman Josi signed a 7 year - $28M contract after his ELC and that was only $4M per year. He signed that after putting up 16 pts in 52 games and 18 pts in 48 games. The team could have tried to sign him for less since they had the leverage but the Josi camp agreed to the security of a 7 year - $28M contract rather than go the bridge route. While that was a long time ago, the point still remains that if the Avs and Byram want to get something done long term, then the AAV is going to come down because they are the ones taking the risk that he's going to continue to stay healthy and get better.

Otherwise, the Avs won't agree to paying him $7M EARLY when they don't really have to. If you look at the Sergachev - 3 year bridge deal ($4.8M signed only 2 years ago) he signed that after 3 - 30+ point seasons and one of those was 42 points so right now, Byram doesn't really have the negotiating power to warrant $7M per year.

The Avs can try to get him on a long-term contract which would provide him with security much like they did with Sam Girard - so that's why the player might want to do it but that contract is NOT going to start with a 7.

In all likelihood, Byram's agent advises him to bet on himself and he plays the last year of his ELC and looks to cash in next summer.
 
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AvsFan29 said:
I doubt Sakic would consider it to be in the teams best interests.

What if they offer a 2 year bridge, and Byram ends up on the top pairing with Makar. Goes off and scores back to back 80 point seasons.

The cap has gone up for 3 years straight by the time the bridge is over.

Now Byram wants 10.5-11.5m

Now you're paying $20m for your top pairing instead of $15.5-16

Big difference.

Also, Makar will only have 2 years left on his contract at that point. What does he get on his next contract? 14? 15?

Could be paying $25+m for our top 2 defencemen in 5 years.

They will also be in their primes in 5 years. Byram will be 26 and Makar will be 28. We will lose one of them if we don't lock Byram down long term asap.
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I understand you wanting to get it done but it can't be down at all costs... It has to make sense.

Let's take the Sergachev example for the next 8 years :

$4.8M bridge
$4.8M bridge
$4.8M bridge
$8.5M
$8.5M
$8.5M
$8.5M
$8.5M
$56.9M total except that contract now goes on another 3 years.

Let's say instead of that, he signed an 8 year deal at $7M per (which is high for that time, I think most expected $6M if it wasn't going to be a bridge)
The total for that comes to $56M. Now however, TB needs to re-up him at the end of 2027-28 instead of 2030-31.

So in the end, it's going to depend what the AVS want to do and what the Byram camp want to do.
 
I think if you go 8 years, you have to pay extra. I’m not opposed to that idea, but it’s the trend in the NHL.

More and more players are getting more than they deserve off of ELC’s.

Hughes, Norris, Suzuki, Tkachuk all got deals that were based on potential moving forward, rather than what they earned at the time of the deal.

The Avs seem to prefer going 6 years. I wouldn’t be surprised if they do the same with Byram.
 
Northern Avs Fan said:
Can’t imagine there’s any ill will towards Stastny.

He didn’t demand a trade like Duchene. Completely different situation.

Also, the roster is almost entirely different from when he was with the team.
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dahrougem2 said:
Meh. Maybe, maybe not. I know if I was a player on that 13-14 team like MacKinnon and we just won the division as an up-and-coming team I'd be a little pissed off that my linemate spurned us for our division rival.
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My issue with Staz (ya know other than the age, injury prone and slowness factors), is the fact that he spurned us not once, but twice, including when we needed him most in 2018.

Now he’ll come back when we’re the belle of the ball? No thanks
 
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AvsFan29 said:
I doubt Sakic would consider it to be in the teams best interests.

What if they offer a 2 year bridge, and Byram ends up on the top pairing with Makar. Goes off and scores back to back 80 point seasons.

The cap has gone up for 3 years straight by the time the bridge is over.

Now Byram wants 10.5-11.5m

Now you're paying $20m for your top pairing instead of $15.5-16

Big difference.

Also, Makar will only have 2 years left on his contract at that point. What does he get on his next contract? 14? 15?

Could be paying $25+m for our top 2 defencemen in 5 years.

They will also be in their primes in 5 years. Byram will be 26 and Makar will be 28. We will lose one of them if we don't lock Byram down long term asap.
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I doubt they are going to gamble on him being a 1st pairing guy long term with an extensive concussion history.
 
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