Rumor: 2022-2023 Trade Rumors and Free Agency (Mod Warning in OP)

[hughdreamz]

Friends don’t let friends sign Paul Stastny

 

[Avsboy]

Sign Paul Stastny

 

[AvsFan29]

At this point a reasonable AAV for Byram long-term is $5.5M - 6M X 8. The Avs are banking on his continued evolution based on the end of his season + playoffs but his 19 points in 49 games in the regular season or 9 points in 20 games played in the playoffs shouldn't make a long-term contract more expensive than that. At some point, Byram would need to look at a guarantee of close to $50M and decide if he really wants MORE before he reaches the age of 30.

His agent might have other ideas though. Going the bridge route for 2 years would see him paid less for now but likely a lot more over time - that is of course, as long as he stays healthy.


That's too high for now but might not be after next season. The Avs are taking on a ton of risk and for that reason it should probably come down. There is a sweet spot there between what other top guys have shown at that age and signed for and what Byram was able to show at the end of the season and the playoffs. I believe it's $5.5 - $6M on a long-term deal. Remains to be seen if he'd sign that though.

I seriously doubt Byram would accept a max term contract at 5.5-6m

I'd be unbelievably happy, but I don't see it happening.

Even at $7m x 8, you have Makar-Byram locked up for $16m. Solid.

 

[EdAVSfan]

Even at 3C? I haven’t watched staz for a long long time so genuine question. The consensus definitely seems to be that he’s slow.

Stastny was never fast. He’s also got an absolutely useless shot.

What’s made him effective his career was his brains and his passing. He doesn’t skate fast, but he plays and thinks the game quickly. He also loves to score dirty rebound goals around the goal mouth.

What I always loved about him was his passing. It wasn’t just that he was a great passer, it was that he knew when to pass. The guy just knows when to hit a player with a pass.

I can see him working well because he’s be surrounded by hard working players.

 

[Hasbro]

Ratvichuk throwing Foppa into the boards seperating his shoulder ended that series in 99.

Hartley was right about DICK Matvichuk deserving the Norris.

 

[Gatorbait19]

I hope not . Maybe it’s just me but Bennett even with slightly better stats in Florida ,doesn’t strike me as particularly dynamic . Reinhart would be better but don’t think Florida would trade him …

Best Florida guys to get in order should be Lundell, Reinhart, Bennett

I’d of course prefer Lundell or Reinhart but problem is that Lundell is untouchable and Reinhart would cost more in assets (and cap space). I also feel like Reinhart’s more of a winger while Bennett is a center.

 

[shadow1]

Stastny was never fast. He’s also got an absolutely useless shot.

What’s made him effective his career was his brains and his passing. He doesn’t skate fast, but he plays and thinks the game quickly. He also loves to score dirty rebound goals around the goal mouth.

What I always loved about him was his passing. It was just that he was a great passer, it was that he knew when to pass. The guy just knows when to hit a player with a pass.

I can see him working well because he’s be surrounded by hard working players.

Stastny's season last year was practically identical to his first season in St. Louis:

Season	Age	GP	G	A	P	+/-	PPP	SOG	FO%	ATOI
2014-2015	29	74	16	30	46	5	15	143	58.3	17:38
2021-2022	36	71	21	24	45	14	8	141	56.6	17:47

I know he plays a lot of wing these days (only took 472 face-offs this year), but overall he hasn't slowed down much at all.

Stastny obviously isn't the sexiest option, but with a team loaded practically everywhere else, the Avalanche could do a heck of a lot worse.

 

[TruePowerSlave]

Finally the prophecy is fulfilled and JTC is the #2C

 

[Foppberg]

If we don't re-sign Naz, I'd be a big fan of getting Casper back. He's not what he once was but he can be inserted into pretty much any lineup and produce, still a quality top 9 player.

Him signing in St.Louis & Vegas did hurt, but I still love the ghost. Him and O'Money hold a special place in my heart despite everything.

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

Yep makes sense.

Stastny would also be a tremendous 3C for the playoffs after hopefully adding a JT Miller or Bo Horvat at the trade deadline.

 

[Gatorbait19]

Yeah. But why would Florida?

I think FL has to (and will) do something else. What that is I’m not sure. They of course need a top 4 dman and also need to shed a little cap.

Trading Bennett for Newhook is a bit of a gamble (for both teams) but gives the panthers a cheap middle 6 guy with promise, as well as cap relief they could theoretically put towards another dman.

 

[dahrougem2]

F*** Stastny. Wish he was part of the revenge tour. Guy has had several chances to return to the Avs when the Avs actually needed him and spurned the Avs every time to secure the fattest contract possible.

Which is fine, dude is one of the smartest players to ever play in the NHL when it comes to signing contracts. But I'm happy he plays elsewhere now.

 

[AvsWraith]

I would 100% try to sign Rodrigues over Staz.

 

[The Abusement Park]

I think FL has to (and will) do something else. What that is I’m not sure. They of course need a top 4 dman and also need to shed a little cap.

Trading Bennett for Newhook is a bit of a gamble (for both teams) but gives the panthers a cheap middle 6 guy with promise, as well as cap relief they could theoretically put towards another dman.

I get the cap space side of things. But I feel like a Bennett/Newhook swap doesn’t do much for them. If they moved Bennett it’d have to be for a dman.

 

[dahrougem2]

And just say no to Evan Rodrigues.

Seriously people this isn't a Nichushkin situation where he's all of a sudden a late bloomer. He had a good half season. 30 points in his first 41 games. 13 points in his final 41.

I've said it a thousand times: just because players are available doesn't mean you bring them in. If Kadri doesn't return, just run some combination of Compher/Newhook/Meyers as your 2/3 centres until you can figure out an external solution via trade.

 

[Avsboy]

And just say no to Evan Rodrigues.

Seriously people this isn't a Nichushkin situation where he's all of a sudden a late bloomer. He had a good half season. 30 points in his first 41 games. 13 points in his final 41.

I've said it a thousand times: just because players are available doesn't mean you bring them in. If Kadri doesn't return, just run some combination of Compher/Newhook/Meyers as your 2/3 centres until you can figure out an external solution via trade.

I don’t see any problem in adding Stastny. He adds more depth and good mojo on the way to Cup 2.

 

[CobraAcesS]

Stastny publicly stated he wanted to stay even at a discount, and then walked off and signed a contract with our rival.

How do we think Sakic and the core feel about that? Oh so now that he's old he can jump right on the wagon headed for the promise land when he chose himself over the team and a reasonable contract?

At one point Mack looked up to him.

I think Staz wanted to come back last chance he had, and Sakic said no to being part of another one of his UFA pay days.

 

[dahrougem2]

Stastny publicly stated he wanted to stay even at a discount, and then walked off and signed a contract with our rival.

How do we think Sakic and the core feel about that? Oh so now that he's old he can jump right on the wagon headed for the promise land when he chose himself over the team and a reasonable contract?

At one point Mack looked up to him.

I think Staz wanted to come back last chance he had, and Sakic said no to being part of another one of his UFA pay days.

How do we think the core felt about that?

Perhaps I'm reading into things too much here, but I found it very strange that when Stastny played his 1000th game as a member of the Winnipeg Jets the only Avalanche player to say anything was Landeskog and it was very brief. There was no MacKinnon or Johnson, whereas there was a bunch of St. Louis players featured.

Time to move on. Stastny was great here, thanks for the years of putting the offense on your shoulders when nobody else could provide any during dark years and congrats on the fat paycheques throughout your career. But time to move on.

 

[Nihiliste]

Goddamn Hatcher and Matvichuk. I cackled with glee when they were ushered out early in 2001.

To some extent I miss the violence and hatred of the old NHL but I definitely don’t miss this type of brain dead, talentless defending

 

[AvsFan29]

I don’t see any problem in adding Stastny. He adds more depth and good mojo on the way to Cup 2.

He's slow. He will look like he's skating at half speed compared to the rest of the team. Plus he's very injury prone and there's a 50/50 chance he'll even be in the lineup by the time playoffs roll around.

There is no rush to get a 2C. The Avs roster is perfectly fine for opening night. Sakic and CMac can spend a couple months looking into the options they have.

Signing Stastny is a desperate and low-IQ move IMO. They won't do it.

 

[Northern Avs Fan]

Can’t imagine there’s any ill will towards Stastny.

He didn’t demand a trade like Duchene. Completely different situation.

Also, the roster is almost entirely different from when he was with the team.

 

[dahrougem2]

Can’t imagine there’s any ill will towards Stastny.

He didn’t demand a trade like Duchene. Completely different situation.

Also, the roster is almost entirely different from when he was with the team.

Meh. Maybe, maybe not. I know if I was a player on that 13-14 team like MacKinnon and we just won the division as an up-and-coming team I'd be a little pissed off that my linemate spurned us for our division rival.

 

[Northern Avs Fan]

Meh. Maybe, maybe not. I know if I was a player on that 13-14 team like MacKinnon and we just won the division as an up-and-coming team I'd be a little pissed off that my linemate spurned us for our division rival.

Come on, it’s Paul Stastny. Nobody gets mad at that dude.

He’s not an ass like Dutchy.

 

[Avs_19]

Can we just get some Avs news already? Anything. Please.

Many reasons to not sign Stastny

Anyways, where the **** is that cinnamon bun recipe @henchman24?

 

[EdAVSfan]

I can 100% sympathize with people not wanting to bring back guys like Stastny/ROR.

For whatever reason, it doesn’t bother me.

Players make financial decisions for themselves and their families and team loyalties aren’t big factors for them.

At the same time, teams also make financial decisions for themselves and leave player loyalties behind.