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I wonder would a Martin Kaut for Nils Lundkvist trade be of interest to either party.

Lundkvist wouldn't the Avs opening night roster but he could be the first callup on the right side this year and then potentially the 3rd pairing ED next year assuming EJ hangs them up.


Of course part of the reason he's available in New York is because he's struggled a bit in North America so he could just bust entirely.


Personally I'd make the move. Two struggling prospects in need of a change of scenery.
 
After watching the Utah Jazz off-season, it kind of makes me jealous at how easy it is to make trades in the NBA. I think NHL GMs don't have the stomach for big trades or something (I know the salary cap isn't the same but c'mon)
 
Richard88 said:
Gagner is at least NHL calibre, which is doubtful for the prospects you're implying should be given opportunities.
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I don't necessarily disagree with that, but from a money standpoint, what choice do the Avs really have?

They simply have to develop a player or three to play in the NHL. They just do.
 
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Alexander Georgiev says that Avs have given him an opportunity that Rags did not give him and then says that it gives him higher moral and confidence. He then believes in that club more. I previously did not notice this interview but it kind of makes me more exited for next season. Georgie was like 15-10 for Rangers which was still decent overall.

 
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Alexander Georgiev says that Avs have given him an opportunity that Rags did not give him and then says that it gives him higher moral and confidence. He then believes in that club more. I previously did not notice this interview but it kind of makes me more exited for next season. Georgie was like 15-10 for Rangers which was still decent overall.

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Reminds me a lot of the Varly and EJ trades. Both were really motivated by the fact the Avs believed in them.

I'm cautiously optimistic at Georgiev being a good starter for this team. He wants to prove NYR was wrong for not believing in him.
 
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Foppa2118 said:
Reminds me a lot of the Varly and EJ trades. Both were really motivated by the fact the Avs believed in them.

I'm cautiously optimistic at Georgiev being a good starter for this team. He wants to prove NYR was wrong for not believing in him.
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Maybe but Georgie had some crazy competition for the number one job in NYR. He had some great playoff games with Rags when he allowed like only 1 goal in a few games that he got a chance to play in.
 
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AvsJost98 said:
Maybe but Georgie had some crazy competition for the number one job in NYR. He had some great playoff games with Rags when he allowed like only 1 goal in a few games that he got a chance to play in.
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Very similar to Varly who had some flashes of great play, but also lost his job to Holtby.
 
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AvsJost98 said:
Alexander Georgiev says that Avs have given him an opportunity that Rags did not give him and then says that it gives him higher moral and confidence. He then believes in that club more. I previously did not notice this interview but it kind of makes me more exited for next season. Georgie was like 15-10 for Rangers which was still decent overall.

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I can’t find them but apparently his stats when he’s leaned on as “the guy” for longer stretches are really good.
 
I'd offer Gagne a PTO, but not a contract. It never hurts.

As for guys that are still out there....what's is the story with Milano. Are there off-ice concerns? He plays both wings and put up a .52 P/GP in 66 games last season averaging 15:50 TOI. Dude didn't get qualified and is a free agent. He's 26, so fits there with our core's age fairly well. I'd hat to say he's a reclamation project, sounds like he's an everyday 3rd liner. GF% 48.53, xG% 52.75 and SCF% 52.12.
 
I could see Milano being a good fit if Helm took him under his wing and showed him what it takes to be a Pro. But I think we already have too many guys competing for that spot. Would only make sense if the plan was to move Rants to 2C and go after a 3W.

Here's some guys I'd tender PTOs to:

Harrington
Svechnikov
Perreault
Ennis
Ritchie

Ultimately I think guys like Motte and Milano get contract offers. I've been saying Svechnikov could be a Nuke-lite for a while now.
 
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I think this is a fair point.

I’m not worried about Nichushkin and Lehkonen, but after the losses in free agency have the Avs shifted just a little bit too much away from skill? Perhaps.

Someone mentioned a good point earlier in the thread that the Avs are a forward thinking organization in terms of valuing things beyond base production and I agree. Nichushkin and Lekhonen bring the kind of pressure that helps the Avs impose their will on their opponents.

Naz and Burkie brought a ton of skill though. Both guys really helped play to the teams’ strength of rushing the puck up the ice too. Meyers is a real good skater and I think he’ll help ease some of that, but there’s some drop off in shooting talent without those guys.

Colorado is sitting on cap space and will most certainly be active at the deadline though. We don’t have a finished product here and the defence will continue to drive the team.
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They probably felt it was ok to lean a bit away from skill by going big with Lehkonen and Nichushkin primarily since they were both more effective than Burakovsky in the playoffs, and also because most of the Avs prospects are offensively-leaning forwards with weak defense (especially Olausson, Foudy, and Ranta).

It's easier to introduce forwards who are weak defensively to the lineup (whether our prospects or other acquisitions) if you already have forwards like Lehkonen and Nichushkin who are strong at both ends, strong on the puck, and drive play at a high level and can thus insulate guys. We already saw how Nichushkin could carry Jost and make him a passable 3C for example.

Players like Lehkonen and Nichushkin also tend to be harder to find and/or more expensive to acquire than one-dimensional scorers, so it makes sense from an asset management perspective too. The league is full of boom-or-bust forwards who aren't suited to bottom 6 roles but have the potential to produce in a 2nd line pure offense role.
 
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Pierce Hawthorne said:
I wonder would a Martin Kaut for Nils Lundkvist trade be of interest to either party.

Lundkvist wouldn't the Avs opening night roster but he could be the first callup on the right side this year and then potentially the 3rd pairing ED next year assuming EJ hangs them up.


Of course part of the reason he's available in New York is because he's struggled a bit in North America so he could just bust entirely.


Personally I'd make the move. Two struggling prospects in need of a change of scenery.
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Lundkvist wants an opportunity to play, I doubt he'd be thrilled about coming to Colorado where he'd clearly be outside the top 6 - even more so than in NY. EJ could also easily decide to re-sign at a cheap caphit next summer which also adds doubt for Lundkvist.

That said I'd be all for a trade like that. NYR probably aim a bit higher than Kaut though. RHD's have more value than wingers after all.

Edit: Moreover, Lundkvist is still waivers exempt which Kait isn't. Unless the prospect coming back is clearly NHL calibre I doubt they want to acquire someone who isn't waivers exempt.

ABasin said:
I don't necessarily disagree with that, but from a money standpoint, what choice do the Avs really have?

They simply have to develop a player or three to play in the NHL. They just do.
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The prospects will get opportunities this year regardless of whether you sign Gagner. Injuries always happen...
 
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None of the remaining free agents look like what we need. I see the appeal of Gagner, but I think with our defense we can afford to leave a forward spot or two open for the kids to see if they can claim it. Unless our goaltending completely falls apart or we get destroyed by injuries we should coast to at least a playoff spot if not first in the division. All of our competition took a step back this offseason (in theory anyway) and we can munch up points beating up on Arizona and Chicago.

I expect the first half of the season to be about experimenting with who will be our #2 center, and giving the kids a shot to see if they can cement a top 9 NHL role. With Helm, Cogliano and O'Connor you can roll a really good 4th line, then give the kids spots in the middle six to see what they can do. Having those veterans (hopefully) removes the temptation to play guys like Kaut 6 minutes on the 4th line. With Bura and Kadri gone there are powerplay spots available too. I'd like to see an open competition for pretty much every middle six forward spot. I'd let Rantanen, Compher, Newhook, Meyers, and yes also Landy get runs at being #2 or #3 center and see who works best in those roles. Meanwhile, Sedlak, Ranta, Kaut, and Maltsev (and maybe a dark horse or PTO) can fight it out for the remaining forward spot.

Other than that, I'd absolutely keep MacDonald and MacDermid as the extra players, because both can fill in at forward or defense as needed, and you can choose which one plays based on whether you need more physicality or more offense.
 
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MacKaRant said:
And talk about whether Rodrigues will somehow solve our 2C problems despite his lackluster career as mainly a wing thus far?
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Having him as a top 9 wing is infinitely better then trying to push LOC up the lineup.

And guess what. He cost nothing to acquire.
 
MacKaRant said:
Except cap space, which I've been told is the most valuable commodity
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We need to sign another forward anyways. And we have almost 4 million in cap space. You can sign Rodrigues and still have..cap space. Not everything is binary.
 
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