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A 50 pts center at 3.5M you say? What's our cap space again? :sarcasm:
 
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I think one aspect of the Avs "regression" that people aren't taking into account, is how dominant last year's team was in the playoffs.

The Avs won the Cup while playing only 20 playoff games. In the past 25 years (since Detroit's 1997 win), only one other team has won the Cup in that few games played (2012 LA Kings). And the Avs did it with fairly mediocre goaltending.

Yes, the team probably won't be quite as good as last year's version. But it'll still be a damn good team. The fear porn being thrown around here is a bit much, IMO.

Agreed. We probably have the best defense in the league and a top 3 first line. This team should still be fine. If we find we are missing a piece we can address that mid-season.
 
Is anyone else surprised by the lack of urgency in filling the middle 6 hole? Assuming the 1st and 4th lines from the playoffs stay in tact, that leaves Rantanen, Lehkonen, Newhook, Compher and Meyers for the 2nd and 3rd lines. Regardless of whether the plan is to move Rantanen to center, or try out Newhook or Compher, at best there is a role on the third line and at worst, a gaping hole at 2C.

I could understand the Avs wanting to wait out Kadri's decision, but now that he has chosen Calgary, why haven't they signed a Stastny, Rodrigues, Motte, or Kessel? Why are they seemingly allowing the only decent remaining options to sign elsewhere? If Rodrigues, Motte, or Kessel have been their plan Bs all along, wouldn't they have signed by now?

Suggests to me that they might intentionally be keeping that cap space open and are saving their splash for the trade deadline or they might have a trade in the works that will only be completed when players around the league are officially placed on LTIR.

Perhaps with Maltsev and Kaut not being waiver exempt, they want to give them an opportunity to see what they've got and are content to roll with Sedlak/Blidh/Maltsev/Kaut on the 4th line, bumping O'Connor to the third until later in the year. They won so many road playoff games last year that finishing with the best record might not be a priority and they want to save cap space to pay off any bonuses, instead positioning to make a splash at the deadline. If they do Olausson and the 2023 1st round pick for player X at the trade deadline, then the hole disappears and Sedlak/Blidh/Maltsev/Kaut are able to accumulate valuable experience over the course of the year in case they have to fill in for injuries during the playoffs.
 
Kerfoot is trending on Twitter...

I clicked and this is the kind of tweets that are showing up...



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A 50 pts center at 3.5M you say? What's our cap space again? :sarcasm:

The continued obsession with a player who's been gone for years and played a large part in the Avs getting Naz continues to astound me. Even AFTER the Avs won the Cup.

Even Jost sounded good with Nuke, I´m sure Newhook will have no problem between Nuke and Lekh if given the opportunity

Well, that was only for one shortened season and Jost also had a Joonas Donskoi who could not miss. The cushy-as-all-hell schedule helped a lot more than any of us would like to admit. That West division was really soft.

It's funny, the moment Donskoi scored that power play goal to secure the hat trick, I just knew that was going to be the end of his hot streak. And sure enough it was. Fast forward to today where he nearly became Seattle's answer to Bill Muckalt.

Anyway, I'm not opposed to them trying Newhook again at C, I just think he's going to end up a winger in the NHL.
 
Man the Kerfoot hate on Twitter is real. It took them a while but Leaf fans are at the same point with Kerfoot than we were at the time of the trade.

The continued obsession with a player who's been gone for years and played a large part in the Avs getting Naz continues to astound me. Even AFTER the Avs won the Cup.
If by obsession you mean I'd want him back then you're very wrong.
 
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The continued obsession with a player who's been gone for years and played a large part in the Avs getting Naz continues to astound me. Even AFTER the Avs won the Cup.



Well, that was only for one shortened season and Jost also had a Joonas Donskoi who could not miss. The cushy-as-all-hell schedule helped a lot more than any of us would like to admit. That West division was really soft.

It's funny, the moment Donskoi scored that power play goal to secure the hat trick, I just knew that was going to be the end of his hot streak. And sure enough it was. Fast forward to today where he nearly became Seattle's answer to Bill Muckalt.

Anyway, I'm not opposed to them trying Newhook again at C, I just think he's going to end up a winger in the NHL.
I just don’t know the Avs plan, but it looks like they had Nuke, Lekhonen and Manson more important long term for them then to sign Kadri as a 2c. That’s just a fact. Then maybe they want to test Meyers, Sedlak, Kaut, others’ and see what they have.

Now I can only guess they would like to test a few players internally, assess the situation, and build some cap for the TDL. They have a better more balanced team than one year ago, they can afford to test these players, and in some way, they don´tu have a choice.
 
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Is anyone else surprised by the lack of urgency in filling the middle 6 hole? Assuming the 1st and 4th lines from the playoffs stay in tact, that leaves Rantanen, Lehkonen, Newhook, Compher and Meyers for the 2nd and 3rd lines. Regardless of whether the plan is to move Rantanen to center, or try out Newhook or Compher, at best there is a role on the third line and at worst, a gaping hole at 2C.
Not really, we should be fine for the regular season even with that hole. Part of me wonders if the FO is still a bit concerned about the goalie position, and wants to hold on until the deadline to see where our needs are at.

As for trying to put Newhook in that 2nd line C role, I remain with my stance that there are no better linemates for him in that position than Rantanen and Lehkonen. They take a hell of a lot of pressure away from him in that spot. They can cover his defensive mistakes, and if he struggles with draws Rantanen can help out there as well. What I'm afraid will happen though is that Bednar is going to put JTC there because he really does have some sensitive photos or something about our coach.
 
Lol it’s the same every year, everyone cried about losing saad and how Nichushkin wouldn’t be a viable option. Rinse and repeat even after seeing management build a cup winner and retaining most of that team. Newhook will score 20+ this year, book it.

One can be confident in management while still being very aware of a huge hole in the roster. 2C is a massive position and the Avs are without a doubt worse until management makes a move to fill it. Nothing they have internally comes close to replacing Kadri, even Stastny would have simply been a stopgap to get them through the regular season.

Losing Saad is not comparable to losing Kadri. Centers are significantly more important, unless we're talking truly elite wingers like Patty Kane. And to be frank, the Avs are lucky as shit Nuke panned out and ended up an upgrade to Saad. I wouldn't hold my breath on that happening twice, let along back to back.
 
One can be confident in management while still being very aware of a huge hole in the roster. 2C is a massive position and the Avs are without a doubt worse until management makes a move to fill it. Nothing they have internally comes close to replacing Kadri, even Stastny would have simply been a stopgap to get them through the regular season.

Losing Saad is not comparable to losing Kadri. Centers are significantly more important, unless we're talking truly elite wingers like Patty Kane. And to be frank, the Avs are lucky as shit Nuke panned out and ended up an upgrade to Saad. I wouldn't hold my breath on that happening twice, let along back to back.

When the rest of the team is top of the line it eases the pain of a small hole. Whoever is at 2C to start will be insulated by a Rantanen/landeskog and lehkonen most likely. Lots of time to find a viable option, Newhook is fine for now. Are the avs lucky about nuke or was that a calculated risk? The numbers were showing nuke was on the verge. We always knew we’d be losing Kadri and losing last years version of Kadri will hurt at first but we won’t become a team fighting for a playoff spot over it lol.
 
One can be confident in management while still being very aware of a huge hole in the roster. 2C is a massive position and the Avs are without a doubt worse until management makes a move to fill it. Nothing they have internally comes close to replacing Kadri, even Stastny would have simply been a stopgap to get them through the regular season.

Losing Saad is not comparable to losing Kadri. Centers are significantly more important, unless we're talking truly elite wingers like Patty Kane. And to be frank, the Avs are lucky as shit Nuke panned out and ended up an upgrade to Saad. I wouldn't hold my breath on that happening twice, let along back to back.
Nuke panned out but they had to pay for that. Still they decided it was a better decision to sign Nuke long term than Kadri.

And frankly, you had to pay 1 M$ more or 2 if he wasn’t an Avs. That’s why you try to promote your own guys like Newhook, you will not find an equal player as him as cheap as he is or will be.
 
I've got to be completely honest this off-season has been very concerning. It's like we were awake for a day and then C-Mac and Sakic decided to call it a summer.

The lack of attention to the 2C is not great. Almost as if they don't view it as a concern.

No 29 extension is very bad, and super concerning. This should have been done first thing or a very least within a day or 2. I really hope they aren't playing hardball and pissing 29 off. He was on a super discount that allowed us to win a Cup. You pay the guy now, he's earned it.

Obviously things can change quickly but so far not the summer I was expecting after winning a Cup. Biggest concern of 2C still remains and your franchise player is inexplicably unsigned to an extension. Not great.
 
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I've got to be completely honest this off-season has been very concerning. It's like we were awake for a day and then C-Mac and Sakic decided to call it a summer.

The lack of attention to the 2C is not great. Almost as if they don't view it as a concern.

No 29 extension is very bad, and super concerning. This should have been done first thing or a very least within a day or 2. I really hope they aren't playing hardball and pissing 29 off. He was on a super discount that allowed us to win a Cup. You pay the guy now, he's earned it.

Obviously things can change quickly but so far not the summer I was expecting after winning a Cup. Biggest concern of 2C still remains and your franchise player is inexplicably unsigned to an extension. Not great.

When was the last time Colorado signed an extension with a player a year before the contract expired? It always seems to happen right beforehand.
 
No 29 extension is very bad, and super concerning. This should have been done first thing or a very least within a day or 2. I really hope they aren't playing hardball and pissing 29 off. He was on a super discount that allowed us to win a Cup. You pay the guy now, he's earned it.
While I do agree it should've been done first, we can start worrying when the regular season starts and he's not signed. Barkov signed his less than a week before the puck dropped. I would imagine they will get something done similarily, during the training camp when MacFarland and MacKinnon have a chance to sit down f2f.
 
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Calm down Chet, they will go along. They didn’t sign Captain Landy early either. Doesn’t mean there are no contacts, and maybe they already agreed on a ballpark, but MacK will be signed for sure. Now he signed a good contract the time being, he was not that good already for a few seasons. We can all remember he had a ton of potential but suddenly met the expectations only 5 years ago, one year after that contract.
 
While there are still some Avs fans that seem to want to bring Stastny back, I think he's made it abundantly clear he has no interest coming back. Get the feeling he and his dad are still mad they traded away Stewart.
Yeah but that's not the reason I don't want Stastny on the Avs. Avs losing Kadri means either Mikko is a full time 2 C or they need to trade for a legit guy at that position if they want to repeat and get another cup. I'd be disappointed if they got Stastny to be the 2nd line C. Also I remember how much we wanted Stasnty out when he if was an Av because he would often dissappear and not do much. Plus he's older and slower
 
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I've got to be completely honest this off-season has been very concerning. It's like we were awake for a day and then C-Mac and Sakic decided to call it a summer.

The lack of attention to the 2C is not great. Almost as if they don't view it as a concern.

No 29 extension is very bad, and super concerning. This should have been done first thing or a very least within a day or 2. I really hope they aren't playing hardball and pissing 29 off. He was on a super discount that allowed us to win a Cup. You pay the guy now, he's earned it.

Obviously things can change quickly but so far not the summer I was expecting after winning a Cup. Biggest concern of 2C still remains and your franchise player is inexplicably unsigned to an extension. Not great.

He still has a year left on his deal, I don’t think anyone is in a massive rush given they already know the ballpark. There is not liking an off-season and then there is being extremely doom and gloom. We have 3.9m in space and a longggg regular season to address one hole. Watch some Newhook highlights from last year it’ll ease some anxiety.
 
He still has a year left on his deal, I don’t think anyone is in a massive rush given they already know the ballpark. There is not liking an off-season and then there is being extremely doom and gloom. We have 3.9m in space and a longggg regular season to address one hole. Watch some Newhook highlights from last year it’ll ease some anxiety.
Agreed there is time but 29 should have been priority 1, roll out red carpet shit. Not starting to creep up on next season without a resolution crap.

As for Newhook go watch the playoff version and the anxiety comes rushing back. He looked bad and out of place.
 
Im not even mildly concerned about the 2C spot.

Management clearly has identified it as something that they want to fix. They will, either by adding a center at some point, or adding a winger to insulate one of the internal options.
 
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