Rumor: 2022-2023 Trade Rumors and Free Agency: Let’s Run it Back!

[John Mandalorian]

Kadri and Trochek are eerily similar production wise. Here are their numbers since 2018:

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[TH]GP[/TH]
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[TD]Kadri[/TD]
[TD]331[/TD]
[TD]106[/TD]
[TD]148[/TD]
[TD]254[/TD]
[TD]52.3[/TD]
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[TD]Trochek[/TD]
[TD]327[/TD]
[TD]90[/TD]
[TD]151[/TD]
[TD]241[/TD]
[TD]53.8[/TD]
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He'd be a great a great target for Colorado in my eyes, especially his forechecking style. I think he'll get more than Danault got ($5.5AAV) but I doubt it's by too much; probably $6-$6.5M. The Avalanche can afford that without dumping any salary.

I've been pouring cold water on the Trocheck idea because Joe hasn't really been one to outbid for free agents.

But in reality, a lot of the truisms regarding JS have changed over the past year:

> He had never traded a first round pick. Last summer he used it to trade for Kuemper.
> He wasn't one to mortgage the future to win now. Last TDL, that's precisely what he did.
> He kept a player like McDermaid on the roster to protect the other guys.

Joe has pivoted in a variety of ways recently already. So maybe he spends enough to get Trocheck? Another pivot that we might see is by identifying core players and ride or die with them by giving them term, especially if they come down on their AAV.

Am I the only one who's not convinced on Puljujarvi? I didn't watch him a ton during the regular season but during our 4 game wipeout of the oilers, not once did I think to myself "wow, that was a great forecheck by him that led to a good chance". I barely noticed him at all... maybe that's a product of playing on a team that is so dependant on #97 and #29 providing all the offense... I dunno.

I wouldn't be opposed to trading for him as long as it doesn't cost much.

I had a similar impression except with RNH. What an inconsequential player he was.

 

[Bender]

I agree with that. The reason to go for him is that we need cheap guys because all our elite players will take a huge chunk of the cap. Puljujärvi is someone who might end up overdelivering.

I would probably trade Kaut for him. I think that Kaut is going to need to pass through waivers if he doesn't make the team this fall anyhow.

 

[The Kingslayer]

Dont even tease me with Necas. Also, one guy I always thought would fit in great with this bottom 6 from Toronto is Pierre Engvall. Dude can scoot.

 

[shadow1]

I've been pouring cold water on the Trocheck idea because Joe hasn't really been one to outbid for free agents.

But in reality, a lot of the truisms regarding JS has changed over the past year:

> He had never traded a first round pick. Last summer he used it to trade for Kuemper.
> He wasn't one to mortgage the future to win now. Last TDL, that's precisely what he did.
> He kept a player like McDermaid on the roster to protect the other guys.

Joe has pivoted in a variety of ways recently already. So maybe he spends enough to get Trocheck? Another pivot that we might see is by identifying core players and ride or die with them by giving them term, especially if they come down on their AAV.

Agreed.

Hopefully this summer Colorado has more sex-appeal now that they've won the Stanley Cup. Maybe Joe Blow team offers $6.5 to Trochek, but he's willing to take a slight haircut at $6.0M from the Avalanche.

 

[The Kingslayer]

I would probably trade Kaut for him. I think that Kaut is going to need to pass through waivers if he doesn't make the team this fall anyhow.

Oilers would probably want Sampo.

 

[redacted]

Oilers would probably want Sampo.

Why would they want a worse version of the same player?

 

[The Kingslayer]

Why would they want a worse version of the same player?

Because Oilers. They probably look at Sampo's speed and think he can play with Connor.

 

[redacted]

Because Oilers. They probably look at Sampo's speed and think he can play with Connor.

I know the because OIlers is an easy reason, but what about Holland's record in Edmonton shows he desires that sort of player?

 

[UncleRisto]

 

[Bill Peckerskull]

(Pasta could be on the menu soon)

 

[Ararana]

I wonder if Sakic is still kicking the tires on JT Miller. We know he was talking to Vancouver about him at the deadline, which inspired that reporter to come up with a that Byram rumor (which he admitted was a fabrication).

JT Miller is still going to be hella expensive but maybe less so than last season.

 

[The Abusement Park]

I would probably trade Kaut for him. I think that Kaut is going to need to pass through waivers if he doesn't make the team this fall anyhow.

That’d be highway robbery for us. I agree that Pulju’s upside isn’t as high as some are saying, but I question whether Kaut with ever be an NHL player in the first place.

 

[Muffin]

I wonder if Sakic is still kicking the tires on JT Miller. We know he was talking to Vancouver about him at the deadline, which inspired that reporter to come up with a that Byram rumor (which he admitted was a fabrication).

JT Miller is still going to be hella expensive but maybe less so than last season.

He's our best shot if we want to just go all in again next year. Won't find a 2C cheaper salarywise.

 

[jaisen73]

I mistakenly thought Kuemper had been on a longer deal in Arizona. If he is willing to take another 2 year deal at a slight pay bump I'm all for keeping him in the fold. He was at 4.5 per. If Joe can get him to a 2 year at somewhere between 5 and 5.5 then do it. Better that than a bidding war or once again having to trade assets to get a goalie.

 

[SoundwaveIsCharisma]

I wonder if Sakic is still kicking the tires on JT Miller. We know he was talking to Vancouver about him at the deadline, which inspired that reporter to come up with a that Byram rumor (which he admitted was a fabrication).

JT Miller is still going to be hella expensive but maybe less so than last season.

Make sure we re-sign Nuke. Get Miller. Lehkonen-Miller-Nichushkin would be the most tryhard line the Avs have had in a while, and it would be hilarious to watch. Or Landeskog-Miller-Nichushkin as a 2nd line to make it really, really hard on the other team.

 

[Iceberg]

I wonder if Sakic is still kicking the tires on JT Miller. We know he was talking to Vancouver about him at the deadline, which inspired that reporter to come up with a that Byram rumor (which he admitted was a fabrication).

JT Miller is still going to be hella expensive but maybe less so than last season.

I don't think we have the assets to trade for him, or the cap space to re-sign him.

 

[Bender]

One guy I was impressed with in the playoffs - Round 1 DAL vs CAL was Michal Raffl.

If he came cheap, I think he'd be a solid 4th line addition.

 

[Ararana]

Make sure we re-sign Nuke. Get Miller. Lehkonen-Miller-Nichushkin would be the most tryhard line the Avs have had in a while, and it would be hilarious to watch. Or Landeskog-Miller-Nichushkin as a 2nd line to make it really, really hard on the other team.

Both JT Miller or Horvat out of Vancouver are my two top preferences to replace Kadri. I'd be tempted to trade Girard + Newhook for either if they came with a contract extension.

The 2C position is so damn important to the Avs, especially when Compher is the 3C.

 

[SoundwaveIsCharisma]

Both JT Miller or Horvat out of Vancouver are my two top preferences to replace Kadri. I'd be tempted to trade Girard + Newhook for either if they came with a contract extension.

The 2C position is so damn important to the Avs, especially when Compher is the 3C.

I view Miller as a rental, I don't think he's going to be a guy that holds up. Similar to the Kadri situation, you're going to be paying elite 1C money to a guy that is actually a 2C.

I'd love Horvat, I think he would be a low maintenance guy that can provide that solid, defensive presence and consistent play behind MacKinnon.

 

[Ararana]

I view Miller as a rental, I don't think he's going to be a guy that holds up. Similar to the Kadri situation, you're going to be paying elite 1C money to a guy that is actually a 2C.

I'd love Horvat, I think he would be a low maintenance guy that can provide that solid, defensive presence and consistent play behind MacKinnon.

Horvat is definitely my preference over the two. Younger and more suited to a 2C role. But with JT Miller most likely on the move I wonder if Vancouver is really going to let both of them go.

 

[Cousin Eddie]

Marek said this morning that he thinks Kuemper gets a deal in Colorado for around 3 years. Am I crazy for thinking this is worst case scenario? If he takes 3 years he certainly isn’t taking a break on AAV. He might be a little better than Fleury but I think Fleury for a year or 2 at 2ish million per + whatever else you do what that added cap space is 7263728272 times better than Kuemper at 3 years which is almost certainly north of 5.5ish million.

 

[JH21]

I view Miller as a rental, I don't think he's going to be a guy that holds up. Similar to the Kadri situation, you're going to be paying elite 1C money to a guy that is actually a 2C.

I'd love Horvat, I think he would be a low maintenance guy that can provide that solid, defensive presence and consistent play behind MacKinnon.

Vancouver wants to compete. They won't be sellers.

 

[The Abusement Park]

I still really want Kulak. He’d be such a money depth guy here. Especially if Girard gets moved for a C.

 

[redacted]

The Miller salary demands are quite insane. If you're getting him, you're simply getting him for one season (which I'm completely okay with).

Marek said this morning that he thinks Kuemper gets a deal in Colorado for around 3 years. Am I crazy for thinking this is worst case scenario? If he takes 3 years he certainly isn’t taking a break on AAV. He might be a little better than Fleury but I think Fleury for a year or 2 at 2ish million per + whatever else you do what that added cap space is 7263728272 times better than Kuemper at 3 years which is almost certainly north of 5.5ish million.

Yeah I don't think that would be great overall for the Avs. Fits with the MO of the front office though.

 

[Perratrooper]

Honestly I think Trochek would be a solid fit as our 2C especially if he comes in around $5.75m for 5 years I think he would be worth the contract for the duration of his time with us. It also fills the 2 C void and allows us to keep our prospects.