Avaholic29
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Was hoping we could get cogs at vet minimum but overly happy we get that leadership for another year.
Rumor: 2022-2023 Trade Rumors and Free Agency: Let’s Run it Back!
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I would take Manson back at 4x4, he'll easily outplay that contract. He's going to score 30+ points on the Avs while being a physical force.
He's about to turn 31 years old while already not the player he was 2-3 years ago.... And you want to give him a 4 year deal?
Man, I am happy Joe Sakic is our GM.
The Kingslayer
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He was damn important in the playoffs. Without him the Avs d core becomes alot easier to play against. Manson was a mean SOB but in control throughout the run. Not sure about the money and term but I really like him.
Cogs signing is a good start even if a small one. The way I see it, our 4th line and 13th forward slot are now set for next season... We should be looking at:
LOC - Meyers - Cogliano
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Small pieces but important to know what you've got before heading into the bigger negotiations this summer. I was hoping Cogs would come in at around $1M, 250k more isn't a huge deal though.
LOC - Meyers - Cogliano
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Small pieces but important to know what you've got before heading into the bigger negotiations this summer. I was hoping Cogs would come in at around $1M, 250k more isn't a huge deal though.
31-35 is still the prime of his career. Without Manson you're looking at EJ as our only physical presence who might break at anytime.
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Tax? If anything we should have a Stanley Cup discount from guys wanting to play here
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I mean we’ve seen many other dmen of that ilk go from good to bad to non NHL level in a short period of time. I mean I loved him during our run, but there’s a good chance that contract is a bad one here very soon.
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henchman21
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Primes are pretty much over at 28-29 except for the high end players. By 32-33, regression is hitting hard. Manson started regressing about 4 years ago... earlier than most. I would say odds are higher that he'll be out of the NHL at 34 than him putting up prime levels of play at any point in his next contract.
Big Manson fan over here BTW... been one for a long while.
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I'm thinking they probably let NAK walk unless he's willing to come back at much less than $1M. His qualifying offer is $1.225M and I doubt the Avs offer him that, though I could be wrong.
There are going to be a number of vets who are available at or near the league minimum who can provide roughly what he can provide at a lesser rate, imo.
dahrougem2
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Given the dude was claimed off waivers and did nothing in the playoffs, I'm perfectly fine letting him walk.
Ditto Sturm. Thanks for the game 4 play but go sign in Arizona and be their 3C.
Bill Peckerskull
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Here's our Manson replacement at RD
LOL. Gross
Bender
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Here's our Manson replacement at RD
Thank you for adding that sarcasm emoji. I want no part of that guy or his terrible contract.
If we really want a Manson replacement, Adam Larsson (if available) I believe could be a good add on this team as a #4D.
He's signed for 3 more years at a decent $4M per year. Go get him and Gourde.
Just replace Manson with a cheaper, bottom pairing version of him instead and someone a little younger. No need to overpay for a 31 year old and give him a 4 year deal on top of that. That's just asking to have dead money within a year or two. We dont really need the Top 4 version of Manson either, not unless Girard ends up being traded... Though even then I still think we're fine.
If you want a physical stay at home Dman, sign Lyubushkin to play 3rd pairing LD. Or if they want a guy with a little more offensive skill, go after Kulak. I'd even rather they get Gudbranson on a 1x2M sort of deal over giving Manson 4M+.
If you want a physical stay at home Dman, sign Lyubushkin to play 3rd pairing LD. Or if they want a guy with a little more offensive skill, go after Kulak. I'd even rather they get Gudbranson on a 1x2M sort of deal over giving Manson 4M+.
dahrougem2
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I wouldn't mind the Avs taking a look at either Ethan Bear via trade or Mark Pysyk as a UFA on D.
henchman21
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I'd personally try to grab Pysyk and then address the issue at the deadline if needed.
NAK is someone I could see having sneaky value to a team like Montreal. He showed some decent offense after joining us and there's some teams desperate for some extra offense from a 3rd line. NAK is scrappy as well.
I'd give NAK his QO and then see if Montreal is interested in giving us a mid-late round pick for him, sort of thing. Like a 5th rounder or something.
I'd give NAK his QO and then see if Montreal is interested in giving us a mid-late round pick for him, sort of thing. Like a 5th rounder or something.
The Kingslayer
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Yes yes yes. Look at Tampa. I know the appeal of the Florida lifestyle, great stripclubs and amazing cocaine is extra perks but guys wanna go there in part because they have cup pedigree. Guys willing to sign for the lowski there. Hell im hearing Giroux might wanna come to Edmonton just because they made the WCF. People should wanna come to Denver at a discount now. The chance to be around Cale Makar and go to that f***in river is reason enough to shave off a few mill.
Do the Avs have anyone in the pipeline on D at all who can play on the tird pair next year? Anyone even close?
henchman21
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Teams really don't like arbitration cases... NAK would likely have to be a sign and trade situation.
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Bill Peckerskull
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What about Evan Rodrigues as a player to add in place of Bura?
henchman21
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What the Avs do at center will be interesting. They made moves to shore up the position and move Newhook to wing (signals to me they don't like him at center). Avs are losing Kadri. Helm is an unknown if he will come back. Compher... not ideal at center, but Avs haven't seemed to mind him. Seems to me that even with Meyers in the fold, the Avs are down a NHL center. Then when you dip in the the 13F/AHL level, Avs are really lacking centers.
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