Rumor: 2022-2023 Trade Rumors and Free Agency: Let’s Run it Back!

[RoyIsALegend]

Totally out of left field but would anyone do the following:

Girard + Newhook (COL)

For

2nd overall in 2022 + roster player (NJ)





Solves your 2C issue assuming wright doesn’t go first overall. Also gives us money to keep nuke and get a goalie.

How does this help us retain the Stanley Cup next season?

 

[TruePowerSlave]

Why? If Wright was a projected #1C of super star calibre then maybe yes. He's not. McKenzie has said that most scouts have his upside as a 2nd line center in the NHL. That means that he's probably not reaching that level during his ELC, let alone the first year of it at 19 years old.

Like I said, f*** everything that "helps us" 5 years down the line. You worry about the next season and next season only. It's extremely hard to win a cup in the NHL. Next year is the best chance for another one before MacK extension and Byrams first proper contract kicks in.

I don't think Girard or Newhook are untouchable, quite the contrary. But if you move them you better get back a solid player that helps you in the quest for a repeat.

It's essentially the 2nd OV pick and 5M+ cap space for our #4D and 2nd/3rd line forward.

Use the cap space for re-signings or UFAs and you basically get a potential franchise player without the team even getting that much worse. Obviously it won’t happen but if it did I couldn't say no.

 

[The Merchant]

Totally out of left field but would anyone do the following:

Girard + Newhook (COL)

For

2nd overall in 2022 + roster player (NJ)





Solves your 2C issue assuming wright doesn’t go first overall. Also gives us money to keep nuke and get a goalie.

I'd rather not see the Avs trade for futures for the next decade or so pls

 

[jaisen73]

If New Jersey moves #2 it's going to be a bigger return than anything Colorado can offer. I could actually imagine Arizona moving Chychrun to land it and make a big splash by having 2 picks in the Top 5. They have 3 picks in the 1st round.

 

[Foppa2118]

Varly not an option? He's my plan B after Gibson.

"12. New York Islanders: When it comes to Lamoriello, I tend to start with: what could he do that surprises us? It doesn’t sound like a Semyon Varlamov move, they prefer to keep him....."

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[Spleenless Wonder21]

Watch Giroux sign in Tampa

Beaches, Low taxes, & titty bars galore.

 

[Vaslof]

Please no Varly. Or Stastny, before you ask. Cause someone will.

 

[Tommy Shelby]

Please no Varly. Or Stastny, before you ask. Cause someone will.

Don't forget Barrie

 

[Foppa2118]

RIAL who knows Cogliano said a couple of days ago that he wants to try to get a two year deal but his preference his to stay in Colorado even for one year... Which obviously suggests that he's not retiring.


Depends on the contract. Obviously a multi year deal in the high 2's or 3's would be risky. But if you can get him on a cheap one year 'prove it' deal where he bets on himself to break out then it may be worth the risk.

I have no problem at all with Cogs at two years. He can skate and if he can skate he can play into his late 30's.

Two years keeps the AAV a tad lower too.

 

[Pokecheque]

I don't see where it states that they delayed the handshake line. They probably yelled at the refs as the Avs celebrated.

They definitely did that, Peter McNab called them out on it on the radio.

 

[Foppa2118]

Please no Varly. Or Stastny, before you ask. Cause someone will.

Who's playing goal then? Varly is one of the best options.

 

[Pokecheque]

Who's playing goal then? Varly is one of the best options.

And that’s not a good option.

 

[Foppa2118]

And that’s not a good option.

And you didn't give an alternative. Darcy, MAF, and Campbell really that much less of a risk?

Or Gibson for that matter, even though he's my plan A.

 

[willy702]

Please no Varly. Or Stastny, before you ask. Cause someone will.

Even if they sign a 1 or 2 year deal for say under 2M AAV? They won't be a first choice for sure, but these are the types of deals loaded teams hunting for a Cup can get vets to sign up for. They dont happen day one of FA, but give it a couple of days and some will listen to these offers from the Avs but wouldnt listen to same offers from teams further from contention. To say we only want the best of the best limits the ability to take advantage of some good situations.

I think Varly makes sense only in an emergency as in Darcy chases the money and nothing but expensive options show up. Joe doesn't have the assets to make that trade again so this might be the type of signing he has to make. Stastny makes sense as a 3C or maybe even 2C if Newhook isn't panning out. Again signed for the right price it works well because there is no C depth in Loveland, this buys some time. I could see him being a perfect short term addition at the right price and term.

 

[Avs_19]

Francouz > MAF

Three years ago maybe you go for MAF but not now. That's my contribution to today's goalie talk.

 

[Pokecheque]

And you didn't give an alternative. Darcy, MAF, and Campbell really that much less of a risk?

Or Gibson for that matter, even though he's my plan A.

You’re right, I didn’t. Though elsewhere I’ve stated I like the idea of getting Husso (though that seems highly unlikely right now).

I don’t know yet. It’s gonna be a crazy offseason. At present the option that likely brings the least headache in terms of assets and money is Fleury. And I get that’s not a great scenario either.

 

[Balthazar]

You’re right, I didn’t. Though elsewhere I’ve stated I like the idea of getting Husso (though that seems highly unlikely right now).

I don’t know yet. It’s gonna be a crazy offseason. At present the option that likely brings the least headache in terms of assets and money is Fleury. And I get that’s not a great scenario either.

That's one way of saying that he lost his spot to Talbot in the last playoffs.

 

[Foppa2118]

You’re right, I didn’t. Though elsewhere I’ve stated I like the idea of getting Husso (though that seems highly unlikely right now).

I don’t know yet. It’s gonna be a crazy offseason. At present the option that likely brings the least headache in terms of assets and money is Fleury. And I get that’s not a great scenario either.

Respect your difference of opinion, but don't you think Husso has just as much (if not more) risk as a 1G option as Varly? He didn't look good in the series against the Avs.

At least Varly knows the Avs system and some of the players. When he was healthy he was great for the Avs. And I think he has a better chance at staying healthy now that they have a good D core in front of him.

 

[Avaholic29]

Respect your difference of opinion, but don't you think Husso has just as much (if not more) risk as a 1G option as Varly? He didn't look good in the series against the Avs.

At least Varly knows the Avs system and some of the players. When he was healthy he was great for the Avs. And I think he has a better chance at staying healthy now that they have a good D core in front of him.

Varly >>>>> Husso

 

[Balthazar]

Varly >>>>> Husso

27 yo >>>>>>>>> 34 yo with a loooooooooong injury history

 

[Foppa2118]

27 yo >>>>>>>>> 34 yo with a loooooooooong injury history

The bulk of which came while being forced to make 40 saves a night behind a terrible D core.

Doesn't matter if Husso is younger if he's not good.

Varly has much been much healthier since leaving that terrible Avs D core.

 

[Balthazar]

The bulk of which came while being forced to make 40 saves a night behind a terrible D core.

Doesn't matter if Husso is younger if he's not good.

He looked fine against us and was the better goalie in STL this year.

He's going to Toronto though so it doesn't matter.

 

[Pokecheque]

Respect your difference of opinion, but don't you think Husso has just as much (if not more) risk as a 1G option as Varly? He didn't look good in the series against the Avs.

At least Varly knows the Avs system and some of the players. When he was healthy he was great for the Avs. And I think he has a better chance at staying healthy now that they have a good D core in front of him.

Varly is old and as much if not more injury prone than he was before. And I don’t think he’s a viable starter anymore. There’s a reason the Avs moved on and they were right to do so.

I see more upside with Husso even though he hasn’t proven it. Bigger risk of course. Probably a moot point though.

 

[geofff]

The advantage of Varlamov is that he only has 1 year left on his contract. 5M might be a bit steep but then he comes off the books when we need to re-sign a few guys. Maybe he makes more sense as a deadline acquisition though, depending on how our goalies fare this season. We do need to get someone this summer though to use as a 1A/1B with Francouz.

IMO the Ideal situation would be signing MAF to a team friendly 1 year deal at something like 2.5M to chase a cup. Maybe that's wishful thinking though, and we would be more likely to get Holtby on a 1-year team friendly deal.

 

[Avaholic29]

27 yo >>>>>>>>> 34 yo with a loooooooooong injury history

Meh it’s one year, if you are suggesting that Husso be a longterm option for the avs then let me rephrase.


Varly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Husso