Rumor: 2022-2023 Trade Rumors and Free Agency: Let’s Run it Back!

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Pierce Hawthorne

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Nashville has so many bad contracts on that roster that will only get worse :laugh:



Josi is still elite right now obviously, but I feel like people still dont realize he's not on the best contract either. He's already 32, and signed for 6 more years at over $9M. Now, Josi might still be a decent Dman even at 35+, but he's not going to be a $9M Dman that's for sure. Now they've got McDonagh making $6.75M until he's 36, Ekholm making $6.25M until he's 35, and Duchene making $8M until he's 35.

It's one thing if they are a team knocking on the door of winning a cup... But they've been a first round exit, wild card level team for a long time now. Just an awful situation that's only getting worse.
 

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Nashville has so many bad contracts on that roster that will only get worse :laugh:



Josi is still elite right now obviously, but I feel like people still dont realize he's not on the best contract either. He's already 32, and signed for 6 more years at over $9M. Now, Josi might still be a decent Dman even at 35+, but he's not going to be a $9M Dman that's for sure. Now they've got McDonagh making $6.75M until he's 36, Ekholm making $6.25M until he's 35, and Duchene making $8M until he's 35.

It's one thing if they are a team knocking on the door of winning a cup... But they've been a first round exit, wild card level team for a long time now. Just an awful situation that's only getting worse.
Whoever said Sharks 2.0 earlier was spot on.
 
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I’m still shocked that McDonagh waived his NTC. Based off the return he didn’t give JBB many other options, but you’d have to think staying in Tampa would’ve been his preference unless he’s tired of making deep runs.
Ultimate team player. Sacrifices himself for the good of the team in more ways than one. Tampa is going to have a lot of overpaid veterans on long contracts in the coming years. Maybe the tacit agreement is that: "We've secured you very good money for an extended term, at some point, we'll need to move you out but you'll still be on that excellent contract."
 

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Yeah not surprised at all that Tampa picked up Myers, was so obvious either they or Vegas would do it. Predicted it a couple of days ago:

That article says that Anaheim could be willing to retain on Gibson. They also mention later on that they are going to be way under the cap floor so they might have some incentive there.


Also found it interesting to see the Myers cap credit point below. Guessing that Vegas or Tampa will be in on that action.

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Francouz + Annunen would indeed be a bit of a disaster if the Avs want to actually contend again. Francouz is a backup and Annunen isn't ready.
 

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Low-key concerned Tampa might make a run at Nichuskin with that capspace. The $7.3m they just opened up, plus $4.45m that can be created by moving Killorn would give them enough to re-sign Palat and another big UFA. Russians love Florida, and Nichuskin was having a good time with Kuch and Vasi..
 
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Low-key concerned Tampa might make a run at Nichuskin with that capspace. The $7.3m they just opened up, plus $4.45m that can be created by moving Killorn would give them enough to re-sign Palat and another big UFA. Russians love Florida, and Nichuskin was having a good time with Kuch and Vasi..
Yeah that's not going to happen...
 
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Low-key concerned Tampa might make a run at Nichuskin with that capspace. The $7.3m they just opened up, plus $4.45m that can be created by moving Killorn would give them enough to re-sign Palat and another big UFA. Russians love Florida, and Nichuskin was having a good time with Kuch and Vasi..
They aren't going to sign Nichushkin. They have to re-sign Palat and Rutta, and while I think Rutta sucks Dave Pagnotta mentioned yesterday on radio that the Lightning have made him a priority to re-sign after Palat.
 

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Not only Tampa didn't take money back in exchange for Nashville to take the upcoming bad years of McDonagh's contract but they also got cap credit. I'd say they did pretty damn well!!!

They made out decently well given the circumstances, but if McDonagh didn't have a NTC a GM like Fletcher or Holland would've paid a 1st + B prospect + for him.
 

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They aren't going to sign Nichushkin. They have to re-sign Palat and Rutta, and while I think Rutta sucks Dave Pagnotta mentioned yesterday on radio that the Lightning have made him a priority to re-sign after Palat.
I think they'll re-sign both and then try and add a cheeper Dman like Kulak that has top 4 potential
 

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Have to give Tampa some credit, They aren't wasting any time in getting their off-season started and taking care of business. The Paul extension (about 2 years too long for my taste but a low cap hit), shedding a hefty contract, etc. As a NW guy with the Kraken as my #2 team I was hoping they might make a play for Palat. That would seem unlikely now.

I have no idea what Nashville gets out of this other than a contract that is not going to age well. It signals to me that Forsberg has told them he is testing UFA. If so, he's going to look sharp in a Kings uniform.
 

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They aren't going to sign Nichushkin. They have to re-sign Palat and Rutta, and while I think Rutta sucks Dave Pagnotta mentioned yesterday on radio that the Lightning have made him a priority to re-sign after Palat.

It's doable if they move Killorn.

 

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Yeah that's not going to happen...

I could absolutely see them doing that, and then rolling a beastly shutdown line out...

Palat - Point - Kucherov
Hagel - Stamkos - Colton/deadline rental
Paul - Cirelli - Nichuskin
Maroon - Bellemare - Perry

... Or just out Nichuskin with Stamkos and Cirelli on the 2nd line.

Obviously I hope this doesn't happen, but JBB is shrewd. He already pulled the plug on McDonaugh and it wouldn't surprise me given Killorn's 0 playoff goals if he's next out the door as a pending UFA.



Sounds like they're not buying him out

Guess I'm wrong. Or it could be JBB playing his cards close to his chest so as to appear to have less capspace in contract talks than he would if he does that buyout early.
 

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Tampa needs significant space to open up next season, when Cirelli, Ross, Sergachev, and Cernak are all RFAs. It is not all about this season with this move by Tampa, although it certainly puts them in a position to possibly re-sign Palat.

Nashville has a lot of cap space and should be able to re-sign Forsberg.
 

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I will say if there's one team in the league thats a stylistic fit for Philippe Myers, its Tampa.


I dont think it will work, but I also wouldn't be totally shocked to see him round into this solid Top 4 guy in Tampa with how Coop wants his Defense to play.
 

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Looking at the available D, if the Avs opt to let Manson walk, they should look into Colin Miller as a replacement if we can grab him for like 3x4m or so. Rutta and Kulak would be the same, as long as they would cost less than Manson, both cap hit and term. Would still like to have him back though.

A couple of late bloomers for the bottom-pair:

Colton White, he has the potential to be a real steal in our system once Pratt gets his hands on him. He skates well and plays a solid defensive and PK game while having a nice outlet pass. There's concerns about his offense but on this team he would be a bottom pairing guy with EJ and we wouldn't need him to score. NJ always wanted him to be more than he is, but I feel on this team he would be a fantastic steal that plays within his role, and would come cheap as well.

Sebastian Aho (the Dman) would also be a nice sneaky pickup for the bottom pair, size is a concern but he would fit the system well.

As for forwards, my wishlist includes:

Mikheyev, Jarnkrok, Motte, Aston-Reese, Rodrigues, Tierney, Janmark, Cousins, Blackwell, Larsson and Sanford.

Jarnkrok would be my top choice since he's very versatile and can play anywhere in the middle 6 from 2C to 3W depending where Newhook develops, how Meyers does and if JTC is still around.

Mikheyev would be my second choice, to replace the scoring we lose with Burakovsky.

Aston-Reese is #3 for me since he would fit perfectly in the bottom-6, he plays similar to LOC/Cogs/Helm so if they let the 2 old vets walk, they absolutely should bring in ZAR.
I like the Colton White idea. Could be this year's Roland McKeown, with hopefully better results.

Aho (D) is probably too small for a 3rd pairing role, especially since we already have Girard, but stylistically a decent fit. Maybe someone to look at if Girard gets traded as a poor-mans-Girard on the 3rd pair.

Speaking of group 6 UFA's it would be kinda funny if we stole Dakota Joshua from St Louis after he appears to have finally put some pieces together.
 

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Totally out of left field but would anyone do the following:

Girard + Newhook (COL)

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2nd overall in 2022 + roster player (NJ)





Solves your 2C issue assuming wright doesn’t go first overall. Also gives us money to keep nuke and get a goalie.
 

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Totally out of left field but would anyone do the following:

Girard + Newhook (COL)

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2nd overall in 2022 + roster player (NJ)





Solves your 2C issue assuming wright doesn’t go first overall. Also gives us money to keep nuke and get a goalie.
I don't know if that's enough to get the 2nd overall pick. But, the Devil's are shopping that pick.
 

LOFIN

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Totally out of left field but would anyone do the following:

Girard + Newhook (COL)

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2nd overall in 2022 + roster player (NJ)

Solves your 2C issue assuming wright doesn’t go first overall.
No. We are going all in next season, Wright doesn't solve the issue for next season. f*** the future, you go all in while you still have MacKinnon and Byram for cheap. You don't make any deals that help you in the future in the expense of next season.
 
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jaisen73

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Totally out of left field but would anyone do the following:

Girard + Newhook (COL)

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2nd overall in 2022 + roster player (NJ)





Solves your 2C issue assuming wright doesn’t go first overall. Also gives us money to keep nuke and get a goalie.
It's a nice idea but as noted in another reply, that doesn't get it done for the #2 overall. It would likely take Byram instead of Girard for NJ to even consider it.
 
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