Prospect Info: 2022-2023 Rangers Prospects Thread (Player Stats in Post #1; Updated 06.04.2023)

[GoAwayPanarin]

Yeah, he's probably at least 3-4 years away. Will be turning 19 in September. Needs to get stronger and just develop at a natural pace.

He isn’t 4 years away.

He won’t play next year but I’d expect him to debut at some point the year after.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

He isn’t 4 years away.

He won’t play next year but I’d expect him to debut at some point the year after.

If he can play 2 years in the SHL like Lehkonen did, that would be ideal IMO. He can still represent the national team in tournaments in August, November, January and March that way, which gives him some added experience.

Also, I'm just not confident in forwards developing the right way in Hartford.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

If he can play 2 years in the SHL like Lehkonen did, that would be ideal IMO. He can still represent the national team in tournaments in August, November, January and March that way, which gives him some added experience.

Also, I'm just not confident in forwards developing the right way in Hartford.

Cuylle seems to be just fine

 

[eco's bones]

I don't think Sykora's ready for the AHL yet. He's still 18 for a few months more and he's kind of scrawny. Not sure if I'd like to see him in the AHL next year either. Actually playing in the SHL for a year or two probably wouldn't be a bad place for him.

Cornell U. and Hank Kempf's season came to an end tonight.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Cuylle seems to be just fine

Yes. Cuylle is doing fine. But he's more the exception than the rule. Let's be honest. And while Cuylle leads the team in points and goals, that's more a testament to how f***ing terrible the team is. Cuylle ranks 74th in the league in points but somehow leads his team. That's awful. Happy for Cuylle though, and how he's doing. But for me it's hardly enough to make up for 2 decades of prospects not hitting their potential there.

I'm not saying Sýkora can't develop in the AHL, but our track record with European forwards in Hartford is dogshit. There's no harm in him developing in a European league. I compare him to Lehkonen a lot because there are so many similarities. Draft position, play style, and if he goes to the SHL for 2 years he'd do exactly what Lehkonen did. And Lehkonen jumped straight into the NHL in his D+4.

 

[Roo Returns]

Yes Sykora is a very young 18. He should be in Europe or juniors for at least 2 more years. He also is very light listed at 172. He needs to gain at least 10 lbs. of muscle.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Yes. Cuylle is doing fine. But he's more the exception than the rule. Let's be honest. And while Cuylle leads the team in points and goals, that's more a testament to how f***ing terrible the team is. Cuylle ranks 74th in the league in points but somehow leads his team. That's awful. Happy for Cuylle though, and how he's doing. But for me it's hardly enough to make up for 2 decades of prospects not hitting their potential there.

I'm not saying Sýkora can't develop in the AHL, but our track record with European forwards in Hartford is dogshit. There's no harm in him developing in a European league. I compare him to Lehkonen a lot because there are so many similarities. Draft position, play style, and if he goes to the SHL for 2 years he'd do exactly what Lehkonen did. And Lehkonen jumped straight into the NHL in his D+4.

How many of their top guys have really gone through Hartford though? Chytil is the only forward on the team that spent semi significant time down there and he's come along pretty well. I know that Lias and Kravtsov didn't pan out, but that wasn't Hartford's fault - they just suck and I doubt it would have mattered where they played. Cuylle doing what hes doing on a bad team should be pretty impressive btw - Plus he's been at near a point per game since Jan 1 so it looks to me like he's developed quite positively down in Hartford as the year as gone on. Outside of stepping into the league and ripping it apart from the get go, thats the kind of progress you want to see down there.

FWIW, I would be more than okay with Sykora finding a better Euro league to play in next year but I also think putting a 4 year timeline on him is silly. Now you didn't do this, but thats really the point I was making.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

How many of their top guys have really gone through Hartford though? Chytil is the only forward on the team that spent semi significant time down there and he's come along pretty well. I know that Lias and Kravtsov didn't pan out, but that wasn't Hartford's fault - they just suck and I doubt it would have mattered where they played. Cuylle doing what hes doing on a bad team should be pretty impressive btw - Plus he's been at near a point per game since Jan 1 so it looks to me like he's developed quite positively down in Hartford as the year as gone on. Outside of stepping into the league and ripping it apart from the get go, thats the kind of progress you want to see down there.

FWIW, I would be more than okay with Sykora finding a better Euro league to play in next year but I also think putting a 4 year timeline on him is silly. Now you didn't do this, but thats really the point I was making.

Oh, we agree on the timeline. The Lehkonen path gets him to the NHL in 2 years.

 

[peto10]

Sykora is leaving for Hartford on tuesday.

Nitra už dohrala, on si však predĺži sezónu v zámorí. Adam Sýkora prehovoril aj o svojej budúcnosti | TVNOVINY.sk

Hoci sa pre hokejistov Nitry sezóna skončila už vo štvrťfinále, nie pre každého hráča to platí. Útočník Adam Sýkora totiž využil ponuku New Yorku Rangers, ktorý ho minulý rok draftoval, a dohrá sezónu vo farmárskej AHL. Tínedžer sa tiež vyjadril smerom k MS a budúcemu ročníku.

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[GAGLine]

Sykora is leaving for Hartford on tuesday.

Nitra už dohrala, on si však predĺži sezónu v zámorí. Adam Sýkora prehovoril aj o svojej budúcnosti | TVNOVINY.sk

Hoci sa pre hokejistov Nitry sezóna skončila už vo štvrťfinále, nie pre každého hráča to platí. Útočník Adam Sýkora totiž využil ponuku New Yorku Rangers, ktorý ho minulý rok draftoval, a dohrá sezónu vo farmárskej AHL. Tínedžer sa tiež vyjadril smerom k MS a budúcemu ročníku.

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I think this will be really good for him and for the team, so they can both get a gauge on where he is and what he needs to work on.

Cuylle has progressed well in Hartford, but he's also 6'3", 204 lbs, and in his D+3 season. Sykora is much smaller and will only be in his D+2 season. And he's very young for his draft class on top of that.

Given Sykora's style of play, I think he'd be able to survive in the AHL next year. But I'm not sure he'd be able to do much more than that, and I don't think that will help his development much. The SHL or Liiga would be much better for him, I think.

 

[nyr2k2]

Yeah I'm not so worried about Sykora coming over next season but I would like for him to make a move to a better European league, preferably the SHL if that's a possibility.

 

[LaffyTaffy]

Yeah I'm not so worried about Sykora coming over next season but I would like for him to make a move to a better European league, preferably the SHL if that's a possibility.

Im fairly confident he’ll be in Hartford.

 

[Roo Returns]

Gang, Sykora will be 19 this fall the beginning of camp. He's not man strong enough yet. If he's in the Callahan/Fast mold, when he's 21 is the earliest he should be playing in the AHL on a full time basis. That's the beginning of the 2025-26 season.

Remember how conservative the Rangers were with prospects during the Renney years from like 2005-2009? They'd mostly come up around 21-23 years of age (and yes, we all know the lockout added +1 season in 2004-05). It's time they go back to that and not rush guys who aren't 100% ready especially with strength or processing the game.

Next year it's Cullye, Edstrom, and Othmann's chance to show what they got. Edstrom will be 23 early into the season (man strength), Cullye is 21, and Othmann is 20. Those are the three to lookout for.

The following season it will be Grubbe, Chlemar, and maybe some of the NCAA guys who are signed.

The only argument for Sykora starting earlier other than if he is 100% ready to play against grown men is another of the "yeah, but..." arguments which in this case is "yeah, but the league is different now from when Callahan/Dubisnky/Fast all broke in".

 

[cwede]

Final day of regular season for CHL[Major Junior] OHL, WHL and QMJHL
only 1 WHL game today, seems not affecting matchups as bracket is posted
(altho Calgary could tie Regina in Points)
but 6 games in OHL, so OHL Brackets are not yet published

Each leagues' playoffs feature 4 best-of-7 series
That is followed by the Memorial Cup beginning May 26,
the 3 champs plus Host Kamloops

Here are schedules for all but Othmann

McConnell-Barker season ends today, thru 2 periods he has 0 points

1st Round CHL playoffs NYR Prospects

QMJHL
MONCTON [BARBASHEV
Date Away Home Time
3/31/2023 Baie-Comeau Moncton 7:00 PM AT
4/1/2023 Baie-Comeau Moncton 7:00 PM AT
4/4/2023 Moncton Baie-Comeau 7:00 PM EDT
4/5/2023 Moncton Baie-Comeau 7:00 PM EDT
4/7/2023 Moncton Baie-Comeau 7:00 PM EDT
4/10/2023 Baie-Comeau Moncton 7:00 PM AT
4/11/2023 Baie-Comeau Moncton 7:00 PM AT

WHL
Red Deer [Grubbe
Fri Mar 31 CGY @ RD
Sat Apr 01 CGY @ RD
Mon Apr 03 RD @ CGY
Wed Apr 05 RD @ CGY
* Fri Apr 07 CGY @ RD
* Sun Apr 09 RD @ CGY
* Tue Apr 11 CGY @ RD

Moose Jaw [Korczak
Fri Mar 31 LET @ MJ
Sat Apr 01 LET @ MJ
Tue Apr 04 MJ @ LET
Wed Apr 05 MJ @ LET
* Fri Apr 07 LET @ MJ
* Sat Apr 08 MJ @ LET
* Tue Apr 11 LET @ MJ

Kelowna [Boyko
Fri Mar 31 KEL @ SEA
Sat Apr 01 KEL @ SEA
Tue Apr 04 SEA @ KEL
Wed Apr 05 SEA @ KEL
* Fri Apr 07 KEL @ SEA
* Sun Apr 09 SEA @ KEL
* Tue Apr 11 KEL @ SEA

OHL
Peterborough [Othmann
Opponent: Hamilton or Sudbury

 

[Antiillafire]

I think this will be really good for him and for the team, so they can both get a gauge on where he is and what he needs to work on.

Cuylle has progressed well in Hartford, but he's also 6'3", 204 lbs, and in his D+3 season. Sykora is much smaller and will only be in his D+2 season. And he's very young for his draft class on top of that.

Given Sykora's style of play, I think he'd be able to survive in the AHL next year. But I'm not sure he'd be able to do much more than that, and I don't think that will help his development much. The SHL or Liiga would be much better for him, I think.

Hartford if the best option as the Rangers development staff can directly control how he is deployed.

You can’t do that if you send him to the SHL or Liiga, the latter of which does not exactly have a shiny record in developing forward talent beyond a players draft season given the defensive style of play. SHL is better yet still, the team he goes to can do whatever they want, not to mention the language barrier. Marco Kasper is in a great situation, he also developed in that organization for quite some time. Sykora would essentially be a free agent signing to an SHL team and there’s no guarantee they give him the necessary ice time, Pk-PP whatever. Even a worst case would be if they sent him down to the J20 for an extended period of time cause they want him to help their junior team (which does happen).

 

[nyr2k2]

Im fairly confident he’ll be in Hartford.

Yeah he likely will be, I don't doubt that. I'm just saying, if he's not and he stayed overseas another year, I would be okay with that too (particularly if he were in a different league).

 

[cwede]

BMB's Soo lost to Sudbury, helping Sudbury in the standings
and making Sudbury the Opponent for Othmann's Petes:"

• With the victory the Wolves climbed to the fifth seed in the Eastern Conference and a first round series with the Peterborough Petes."

OHL site has not posted the brackets/schedule yet

 

[The Crypto Guy]

Petes vs. Sudbury Wolves



Game 1: Thursday, March 30, 2023 @ 7:05pm – Sudbury @ Peterborough

Game 2: Friday, March 31, 2023 @ 7:05pm – Sudbury @ Peterborough

Game 3: Tuesday, April 4, 2023 @ 7:00pm – Peterborough @ Sudbury

Game 4: Wednesday, April 5, 2023 @ 7:00pm – Peterborough @ Sudbury

Game 5: Friday, April 7, 2023 @ 7:05pm – Sudbury @ Peterborough*

Game 6: Sunday, April 9, 2023 @ 7:00pm – Peterborough @ Sudbury*

Game 7: Tuesday, April 11, 2023 @ 7:05pm – Sudbury @ Peterborough*

*If necessary

 

[cwede]

Consolidated schedule for NYR draftees playing in CHL playoffs
Interesting that the Moncton series is 2-3-2

Thu Mar 30	SUD @ PET
Fri Mar 31	BC @ MNCTN	Thu Apr 06
	CGY @ RD	Fri Apr 07	* MNCTN @ BC
	LET @ MJ		* CGY @ RD
	KEL @ SEA		* LET @ MJ
	SUD @ PET		* KEL @ SEA
Sat Apr 01	BC @ MNCTN		* SUD @ PET
	CGY @ RD	Sat Apr 08	* MJ @ LET
	LET @ MJ	Sun Apr 09	* RD @ CGY
	KEL @ SEA		* SEA @ KEL
Sun Apr 02			* PET @ SUD
Mon Apr 03	RD @ CGY	Mon Apr 10	* BC @ MNCTN
Tue Apr 04	MNCTN @ BC		* CGY @ RD
	MJ @ LET	Tue Apr 11	* BC @ MNCTN
	SEA @ KEL		* LET @ MJ
	PET @ SUD		* KEL @ SEA
Wed Apr 05	MNCTN @ BC		* SUD @ PET
	RD @ CGY
	MJ @ LET
	SEA @ KEL
	PET @ SUD

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Spoke to Adam Edström briefly this morning and he said he's expected to fly to the US soon. Expect him to join the Wolf Pack.

He's now eligible to do so with Rögle eliminated from the playoffs.

 

[Beer League Sniper]

Spoke to Adam Edström briefly this morning and he said he's expected to fly to the US soon. Expect him to join the Wolf Pack.

He's now eligible to do so with Rögle eliminated from the playoffs.

Thanks for the update! Really excited to see what this kid can do. Among others, I think his game is much more suited to North American style hockey. There will still likely be growing pains, but with his size and wheels, I’m hopeful he can carve out a valuable role as a 4th liner eventually.

 

[pld459666]

For me, the biggest issue for the Rangers is that being a team that is going for it, they are going to need cheap talent to back fill spots 8/9 thru 13 at forward and 5-7 on D which often will force them to sort of rush kids tjat are better off marinating for 2-3 years.

No reason Sykora should be in the NHL until 21 at the earliest unless he absolutely shows tjat he is a class above his competition in the SHL or AHL. Same thing with Othmann in 23-24.

Stop trying to develop these kids at the NHL level and manage the cap better so you're not so desperate for inexpensive talent.

 

[NYR Viper]

For me, the biggest issue for the Rangers is that being a team that is going for it, they are going to need cheap talent to back fill spots 8/9 thru 13 at forward and 5-7 on D which often will force them to sort of rush kids tjat are better off marinating for 2-3 years.

No reason Sykora should be in the NHL until 21 at the earliest unless he absolutely shows tjat he is a class above his competition in the SHL or AHL. Same thing with Othmann in 23-24.

Stop trying to develop these kids at the NHL level and manage the cap better so you're not so desperate for inexpensive talent.

In some ways, the flat cap may actually help with this. There should be decent to good NHL veterans who can be had for lower cap hit figures if Drury is patient. Vesey is a good example.

 

[kovazub94]

For me, the biggest issue for the Rangers is that being a team that is going for it, they are going to need cheap talent to back fill spots 8/9 thru 13 at forward and 5-7 on D which often will force them to sort of rush kids tjat are better off marinating for 2-3 years.

No reason Sykora should be in the NHL until 21 at the earliest unless he absolutely shows tjat he is a class above his competition in the SHL or AHL. Same thing with Othmann in 23-24.

Stop trying to develop these kids at the NHL level and manage the cap better so you're not so desperate for inexpensive talent.

What's the evidence of this? What you're saying is actually counter-intuitive. Playoff / contender teams almost by definition don't have patience to develop prospects at the NHL level and rather fill their bottom lines with seasoned vets even more biased toward no longer fitting vets than ready to make the jump kids.

 

[UAGoalieGuy]

Spoke to Adam Edström briefly this morning and he said he's expected to fly to the US soon. Expect him to join the Wolf Pack.

He's now eligible to do so with Rögle eliminated from the playoffs.

In the Rangers welcome/informational package they send after drafting a European player, is there a bullet stating something like "A Euro based fan name (insert Amazing Kreidermans real name) will reach out to you on a regular basis. You are required to give him updates related to yourself and your career"?

Lol