Prospect Info: 2022-2023 Rangers Prospects Thread (Player Stats in Post #1; Updated 06.04.2023)

[GAGLine]

Korczak had 2 goals yesterday. He's up to 42 points in 29 games, good for 8th overall in points per game in the WHL:

No points yet tonight with 5 minutes left in the 2nd.

 

[RangersFan1994]

Korczak had 2 goals yesterday. He's up to 42 points in 29 games, good for 8th overall in points per game in the WHL:

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No points yet tonight with 5 minutes left in the 2nd.

Sad part is Korczak couldn’t hack it in the AHL at 20 is worrisome. Doesn’t bold well for his future as a pro.

 

[nyr2k2]

62 points in 72 games after he was drafted, at a time the Rangers had basically zero offensive C prospects that I can remember for that time, was vaguely hopeful for me. Those were lean years for prospects, especially at C, and it was easy to hope for more than possible because hope was the only chance they had. With the exception of Chytil finally starting to pay off, the Rangers greatest success in recent history at C had been Stepan. This org has a problem drafting centers

Oh, for sure. There were many guys that I found reasons to be excited about that were really like C- prospects. We had to hope.

 

[JohnC]

Brad Morrison was a guy I remember people holding out hope could be a Tyler Johnson type player in an era when the NHL was shifting towards small, speedy players with skill.

 

[GAGLine]

Sad part is Korczak couldn’t hack it in the AHL at 20 is worrisome. Doesn’t bold well for his future as a pro.

Haven't we already been over this? He's in his D+2 season. He was only eligible for the AHL this year because he's old for his draft class. Most CHL players are still in the CHL in their D+2 season. Othmann (only 3 1/2 months younger) is in his D+2 season and still in the OHL. They were both drafted in the same year. If Korczak had stuck in the AHL, it would have been a surprise. It's not a knock on him that he didn't.

 

[cwede]

Sad part is Korczak couldn’t hack it in the AHL at 20 is worrisome. Doesn’t bold well for his future as a pro.

Couldnt disagree more. Every player has a zigzag path
I think sometimes you have unrealistic expectations of young players development path and expect precocious pro readiness
Seems, to me, that overrating the detail of what they do at 19, 20, 21 can be a waste of energy,
Its a journey and it takes a village of self, teammates, coaches and more,
and over time they become what they'll be
Not trying to change your mind, just sharing countering view

 

[Ranger Ric]

62 points in 72 games after he was drafted, at a time the Rangers had basically zero offensive C prospects that I can remember for that time, was vaguely hopeful for me. Those were lean years for prospects, especially at C, and it was easy to hope for more than possible because hope was the only chance they had. With the exception of Chytil finally starting to pay off, the Rangers greatest success in recent history at C had been Stepan. This org has a problem drafting centers

Agree on problem with drafting centers but in fairness to them, no first rounds picks for four years with no second round picks in two of those years, and the two years the team had the top of the draft picks no one in their right mind would have chosen anyone except Kakko and Lafreniere, neither of whom was a center. And it's hard to criticize picking Schneider and Othmann in the first round. There's not a lot of top centers picked after the first round.

 

[eco's bones]

Korczak going back to juniors in part was a numbers game--as in too many forwards in Hartford and not enough opportunity to go around. Also too many first year AHL forwards and it happens that not all of them could be sent back to the CHL. Korczak could.

That said it's not clear to me that he has much of a path to the Rangers in the future. The center path right now has Mika, Trocheck and Chytil--wings with Panarin, Kreider, Lafreniere, Kakko--top 6 positions for the near future anyway don't exist for any of our forward prospects including Othmann, Kravtsov, Cuylle let alone guys further down the ladder. That's why it's important for prospects to develop a reliable two way game and size and aggression are bonuses. Not going to be overmuch opportunity to show off offensive skills. Even bottom 6 positions players are competing with Goodrow and Vesey.

That the Rangers might have to move on from some of their higher paid players in the next year or two might come in to play but even moving one guy only creates so much opportunity for someone to move in. It also wouldn't surprise me at all in the next couple years the Rangers moving on from some of the higher ranked prospects we have now. As long as we have 1st's and 2nd's that's not necessarily a bad thing if we get a decent return for them. Looking at our current prospect board no one is that good that he's not tradeable.

 

[nyr2k2]

If Korczak was really ready for Hartford, there could have been a spot for him. Hartford has played some pretty low-end guys, both "prospects" and veterans, throughout the season.

But, Korczak wasn't ready. I said coming into the year that if he went pro, he was likely going to spend his time in Jacksonville because what he showed the season before was not AHL-caliber. I also speculated several times that he'd be back in the WHL.

That's not to say he's a bad prospect or can't make it. I personally have my reservations about him and his realistic upside, but as was stated above by @cwede (who makes the point all the time) different guys develop differently. Sometimes they take big leaps forward when you least expect it. Sometimes they regress. Or do one then the other.

 

[RangersFan1994]

If Korczak was really ready for Hartford, there could have been a spot for him. Hartford has played some pretty low-end guys, both "prospects" and veterans, throughout the season.

But, Korczak wasn't ready. I said coming into the year that if he went pro, he was likely going to spend his time in Jacksonville because what he showed the season before was not AHL-caliber. I also speculated several times that he'd be back in the WHL.

That's not to say he's a bad prospect or can't make it. I personally have my reservations about him and his realistic upside, but as was stated above by @cwede (who makes the point all the time) different guys develop differently. Sometimes they take big leaps forward when you least expect it. Sometimes they regress. Or do one then the other.

I get Brad Morrison Michael St Croix vibes from him.

 

[dshea19]

Agree on problem with drafting centers but in fairness to them, no first rounds picks for four years with no second round picks in two of those years, and the two years the team had the top of the draft picks no one in their right mind would have chosen anyone except Kakko and Lafreniere, neither of whom was a center. And it's hard to criticize picking Schneider and Othmann in the first round. There's not a lot of top centers picked after the first round.

I have zero complaints about their picks the last few years. Is there a discussion to be had about development? Sure, but even then they are not doing as poorly as most people think.

 

[The Crypto Guy]

BMB with 1G/1A today and Othmann had an assist. Both teams got their ass's kicked in losses.

 

[2014nyr]

Korczak had 2 goals yesterday. He's up to 42 points in 29 games, good for 8th overall in points per game in the WHL:

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No points yet tonight with 5 minutes left in the 2nd.

this reminds me....the guy i really, really want to see us land in this draft is cristall. randomly caught some canada hlinka games and to me he was by far the most talented player on canada. was weird they didnt play him a ton..like bottom 6 not much pp role but if you watched him skate he just did things at a higher level. for a smaller kid had phenomenal balance and strength protecting the puck, made high iq plays to buy time and space and had tremendous awareness, had great hands...just a very polished game. good skater, uses quickness and edges more than pure speed. dont normally pay much attention to or see a lot of draft eligible guys outside the ones who make world junior teams, but this year i have a guy. he is listed as lw which isnt ideal...not sure how much flexibility is there but with 2 firsts, as of now, and considering hed be like 10+ yrs younger than kreider/panarin i dont see an issue. only problem is lately i see people talking about his potentially making his way into the top 5/10 where we have no shot. others still see him as mid-late teens/early 20s though where i dont see how hes not a massive steal.

 

[dshea19]

this reminds me....the guy i really, really want to see us land in this draft is cristall. randomly caught some canada hlinka games and to me he was by far the most talented player on canada. was weird they didnt play him a ton..like bottom 6 not much pp role but if you watched him skate he just did things at a higher level. for a smaller kid had phenomenal balance and strength protecting the puck, made high iq plays to buy time and space and had tremendous awareness, had great hands...just a very polished game. good skater, uses quickness and edges more than pure speed. dont normally pay much attention to or see a lot of draft eligible guys outside the ones who make world junior teams, but this year i have a guy. he is listed as lw which isnt ideal...not sure how much flexibility is there but with 2 firsts, as of now, and considering hed be like 10+ yrs younger than kreider/panarin i dont see an issue. only problem is lately i see people talking about his potentially making his way into the top 5/10 where we have no shot. others still see him as mid-late teens/early 20s though where i dont see how hes not a massive steal.

I literally just saw a mock with him going 7th. Will be interesting to see how it shakes out.

 

[Clark Kellogg]

Brennan Othmann interview from a few weeks ago on Puck Daddy.
Starts at the 34:30 mark:

 

[2014nyr]

I literally just saw a mock with him going 7th. Will be interesting to see how it shakes out.

yea i saw pronman had him 28, think mckenzie had him 18...hes one of the more polarizing players in this years draft. my opinion falls in line with the very high end but our only shot is him dropping. if i had to guess hes gone btw 5 and 10 but until someone else takes him i can dream

 

[dshea19]

yea i saw pronman had him 28, think mckenzie had him 18...hes one of the more polarizing players in this years draft. my opinion falls in line with the very high end but our only shot is him dropping. if i had to guess hes gone btw 5 and 10 but until someone else takes him i can dream

This team needs game breaking scoring for the future, so if he can be that in the NHL, I hope he drops.

 

[bhamill]

With GMs supposedly shying away from Russians in this draft in general, and Michkov's contract situation... If Drury holds onto both firsts he may be able to add and move to snag him if he falls...
MAY, not saying its likely. Hahaha.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

With GMs supposedly shying away from Russians in this draft in general, and Michkov's contract situation... If Drury holds onto both firsts he may be able to add and move to snag him if he falls...
MAY, not saying its likely. Hahaha.

Even if he falls I doubt we take him.

We should, but after the Kravtsov debacle I bet we steer clear of that region for a while.

 

[bhamill]

Even if he falls I doubt we take him.

We should, but after the Kravtsov debacle I bet we steer clear of that region for a while.

Possible... but he is a major talent...

 

[Daves a mess]

FYI, took a look at CapFriendly's NYR Reserve List page

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Thank you for the amazing 9 years

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as expected,
Ciccolini* and Hughes are listed as Aug.15'23 rights expiry
(and Grubbe, Aaltonen as Jun'23)
* not sure if Cicc's playing only 4 games, last season, due to injury, might qualify him for another season; he just turned 22
HE,B10 played virtually full seasons during their NCAA careers

I had casually assumed Kjellberg's NCAA career was ending this spring
CF lists Kjellberg as Aug 15'24 rights expiry
He did lose the '20-21 season when RPI cancelled due to Covid
AND NCAA are allowing guys, whose teams had seasons affected by Covid, an extra season of eligibility.
So it seems
(a) Kjellberg maybe could play NCAA again in '23-24, and
(b) i guess maybe even in '24-25, when his younger brother is due to join NMU
however
(c) he will be 23 in 3 weeks

i guess even Hughes or Ciccolini might have that extra year eligibility as well,
Pack signee , rookie F Easton Brodzinski (playing w Jax) played 5 full season, 176 games, '17-22

We got the shitty Hughes...

 

[n8]

I get Brad Morrison Michael St Croix vibes from him.

MSC I get but Brad Morrison? What did that player ever do? MSC seemed to produce at the ECHL level but only get 13 games in the AHL. Never understood what happened with him. One dimensional game or something that didn't translate?

 

[Ranger Ric]

We got the shitty Hughes...

Our Hughes is the son of Montreal's GM.

 

[Daves a mess]

Our Hughes is the son of Montreal's GM.

Did not know that. Thanks for the heads up Ruc.

 

[mike14]

Othmann with all 3 Petes gaols with a period left to play. Good to see him hitting the scoresheet in a big way again