2022-2023 Laval Rocket

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WeThreeKings

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You aren't sold on Ylonen, RHP & Baron?

They all have runway until we know for sure what any of them are. It's promising for them so far to make a case but I've seen guys have some good stints but never discover consistency.

And I've hated how he's handled Mysak and Norlinder so far.
 
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They all have runway until we know for sure what any of them are. It's promising for them so far to make a case but I've seen guys have some good stints but never discover consistency.

And I've hated how he's handled Mysak and Norlinder so far.
I doubt either of them make the NHL. Norlinder will be back in Europe in no time.
 

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They all have runway until we know for sure what any of them are. It's promising for them so far to make a case but I've seen guys have some good stints but never discover consistency.

And I've hated how he's handled Mysak and Norlinder so far.

Mysak is a bit more understandable to me .. but I'm really perplexed about Norlinder
 
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Mysak will get lost in the shuffle, there are too many prospects coming up and he isn't developing. He'll be stuck on Laval's 4th line. RHP and Ylonen are obviously above him, Then you have Farrell, Heineman, Mesar and Joshua Roy who will all play in Laval next year and who will all be above him in the line-up. Owen Beck is obviously way in front of him in terms of development, too.

Then you have Tuch, Kapanen, Davidson, Smilanic and whoever we draft in 2023.
 

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Mysak will get lost in the shuffle, there are too many prospects coming up and he isn't developing. He'll be stuck on Laval's 4th line. RHP and Ylonen are obviously above him, Then you have Farrell, Heineman, Mesar and Joshua Roy who will all play in Laval next year and who will all be above him in the line-up. Owen Beck is obviously way in front of him in terms of development, too.

Then you have Tuch, Kapanen, Davidson, Smilanic and whoever we draft in 2023.
I am not a Mysak fan, but some clarifications:

Tuch and Smilanic haven't proved anything yet.​
Davidson will probably get an AHL contract for September.​
Kapanen isn't coming next year.​
RHP and Ylonen are close to NHL 4th line material, so yes they are ahead of Mysak.​
Farrell is a likely stud, and Roy is very promising with his smarts, scoring and two-way play.​
Heineman and Mesar may not be any better than Mysak. I hope so, but we will see.​
 

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Mysak is a bit more understandable to me .. but I'm really perplexed about Norlinder

I don't think its understandable to ever take a 2nd round pick and immediately tell him he's this, he'll never be that, and give him 4th line minutes.

Coach, develop and deploy for the ceiling and let the player make that determination, not you.
 

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I don't think its understandable to ever take a 2nd round pick and immediately tell him he's this, he'll never be that, and give him 4th line minutes.

Coach, develop and deploy for the ceiling and let the player make that determination, not you.
I agree, unless Mysak stinks in practices. I don't know that to be a fact, but hypothetically if true, then would you still say to give him top line minutes?
 
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WeThreeKings

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I agree, unless Mysak stinks in practices. I don't know that ti be a fact, but hypothetically if true, then would you still say to give him top line minutes?

Yes, I'm not a big practice guy anyway. There's plenty of times in warm ups when I stop everything and then can't stop anything when the game starts or vice versa.
 

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Yes, I'm not a big practice guy anyway. There's plenty of times in warm ups when I stop everything and then can't stop anything when the game starts or vice versa.
In my experience, if a team sport player is consistently bad in games AND also consistently bad in practices, a coach that gives him prime playing time will lose the room.
 
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Very nice touch by the AHL to have had all these All-Star jerseys copied on the Montreal Canadiens ones.
 
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Skills Competition and All-Star Game were both a resounding success. It was fun, diversifying, entertaining, guys having fun and also competing. And the Laval crowds for both games were amazing. The atmosphere in the building was incredible.

I really like the All-Star Game format the AHL has. The four divisions play each other in 3-on-3 hockey. But it's a round robin, each division plays each other. And they play two 5-minute periods. A win, you get 2 pts, a tie gets you 1 point. If the game is tied after the 2 periods, they go to a shootout. If the shootout doesn't solve it, then the game ends as a tie. In the end, the two best divisions face each other in a 6-minute final (no periods, just 1 period of 6 minutes).

The North Division tied both of their first games. They needed to win their final divisional game in order to pass onto the final. That game ended in a shootout again, after the 3 shooters, it was still tied. But the fans demanded for it to continue until there's a winner. And once the league agreed to it, the place went nuts. The shootout went to 11 rounds, but North Division lost.

The Final was the Pacific Division winning 1-0 vs. Atlantic Division. The best part of that final was the goalie changes were made on the fly.


You put the AHL All-Star events up against the NHL one and the AHL blows the NHL out of the water.
 

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Some good news as Mysak and Beaudin will practice in full tomorrow, shedding the non-contact jerseys. And they could end up playing on Friday against Syracuse.

Only Martel & Poulin are left on IR, excluding Fairbrother and Leskinen, whose seasons are over.


Centorame being sent back down to 3R could be the indication that Beaudin will be back:

 

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Skills Competition and All-Star Game were both a resounding success. It was fun, diversifying, entertaining, guys having fun and also competing. And the Laval crowds for both games were amazing. The atmosphere in the building was incredible.

I really like the All-Star Game format the AHL has. The four divisions play each other in 3-on-3 hockey. But it's a round robin, each division plays each other. And they play two 5-minute periods. A win, you get 2 pts, a tie gets you 1 point. If the game is tied after the 2 periods, they go to a shootout. If the shootout doesn't solve it, then the game ends as a tie. In the end, the two best divisions face each other in a 6-minute final (no periods, just 1 period of 6 minutes).

The North Division tied both of their first games. They needed to win their final divisional game in order to pass onto the final. That game ended in a shootout again, after the 3 shooters, it was still tied. But the fans demanded for it to continue until there's a winner. And once the league agreed to it, the place went nuts. The shootout went to 11 rounds, but North Division lost.

The Final was the Pacific Division winning 1-0 vs. Atlantic Division. The best part of that final was the goalie changes were made on the fly.


You put the AHL All-Star events up against the NHL one and the AHL blows the NHL out of the water.
I was there for the skills comp, couldn't go to the game. It was really fun and the crowd was in it!
 
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I was there. That save was spectacular, but only because Primeau sent that puck straight from behind his net to that opponent forward.

At least twice, maybe 3 times he gave the puck away to the other team like that. I'm actually rooting for Primeau, but he can't handle the puck. He needs to stay in his crease and keep the puck when he has it.
 
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Kidney has a goal

Joshua Roy has a goal
I know the Habs do not have much in Laval, but I was looking at the overall prospect pool from a Habs perspective.

First the CHL. I am eliminating 20 year olds and undrafted players, leaving just Junior-aged guys owned by an NHL team. Also eliminating players with less than 30 games played unless they are in the top 100 overal in their league.

In ppg, the Habs have the 3rd and 5th best point-getters in the Q. Quality but not a lot of quantity.

In the OHL, the Habs have 5 skaters in the top 26, that is unbelievably strong for a 32 team NHL. But no one higher than 17th overall (Beck). Note that the Habs' four 18 year olds are all in the top 10 of their cohort. Crazy!

In the WHL, the Habs don't really have anyone 18 or 19. Davidson is an overager and is 5th overall. He is 2nd among already drafted players, and first among 20 year olds. The Habs will likely sign him to an AHL deal after this season.

In the NCAA, the Habs have both the 1st and 2nd best already-drafted scorers in ppg. That is nuts!

In Europe, we are not as strong in terms of quantity, but Engstrom and Kapanen might have NHL careers.

All in all, this is an incredible stable of prospects, we just need to look farther than Laval.
 

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I know the Habs do not have much in Laval, but I was looking at the overall prospect pool from a Habs perspective.

First the CHL. I am eliminating 20 year olds and undrafted players, leaving just Junior-aged guys owned by an NHL team. Also eliminating players with less than 30 games played unless they are in the top 100 overal in their league.

In ppg, the Habs have the 3rd and 5th best point-getters in the Q. Quality but not a lot of quantity.

In the OHL, the Habs have 5 skaters in the top 26, that is unbelievably strong for a 32 team NHL. But no one higher than 17th overall (Beck). Note that the Habs' four 18 year olds are all in the top 10 of their cohort. Crazy!

In the WHL, the Habs don't really have anyone 18 or 19. Davidson is an overager and is 5th overall. He is 2nd among already drafted players, and first among 20 year olds. The Habs will likely sign him to an AHL deal after this season.

In the NCAA, the Habs have both the 1st and 2nd best already-drafted scorers in ppg. That is nuts!

In Europe, we are not as strong in terms of quantity, but Engstrom and Kapanen might have NHL careers.

All in all, this is an incredible stable of prospects, we just need to look farther than Laval.
Add to that the fact Slaf, Guhle, Harris, Barron and Xhekaj were rookies in the NHL
 

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Add to that the fact Slaf, Guhle, Harris, Barron and Xhekaj were rookies in the NHL
Yeah, if normally a team would have only two rookies 22 and under, that would have been three in Laval which would make that a totally different equation.
 
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