Rumor: 2022-2023 Free Agency and Trade Rumors: STILL searching for a 2C

[John Mandalorian]

From the main board:

 

[SoundwaveIsCharisma]

From the main board:

I got it! Avs win the Bedard sweepstakes. Canucks re-sign Petersson and Kuzmenko to long-term contracts, then flip them and Hughes at 50% to the Avs for Bedard. Avs then trade Hughes to NJD for a bunch of high end futures. Basically, cap version of the Lindros.

 

[Pokecheque]

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Well if Petey is available the Avs need to do whatever is necessary to get him. Spare no expense.

And if Petey is available, that's a full-on blowup in Vancouver. Sell EVERYTHING and start over. But knowing their owner, they won't.

 

[TruePowerSlave]

Vancouver doesn't rebuild, they desperately try to compete with garbage rosters.

 

[henchman21]

Yeah if Petey hits the market… whatever it takes short of MacK and Makar.

 

[Vaslof]

Yeah if Petey hits the market… whatever it takes short of MacK and Makar.

Rantanen for Pettersson? He doesn't have NTC in effect yet, but will for the next two seasons. I don't think they would get a better offer.

Of course, I want Rants to be in Avs for life, so I hope it doesn't happen.

 

[henchman21]

Rantanen for Pettersson? He doesn't have NTC in effect yet, but will for the next two seasons. I don't think they would get a better offer.

Of course, I want Rants to be in Avs for life, so I hope it doesn't happen.

I’d do it… might be unpopular, but Petey is a legit elite top line talent at center. Potential 100 point guy.

 

[John Mandalorian]

Rantanen for Pettersson? He doesn't have NTC in effect yet, but will for the next two seasons. I don't think they would get a better offer.

Of course, I want Rants to be in Avs for life, so I hope it doesn't happen.

It depends on what Vancouver wants. They're in an awkward spot in that they have some older players with big contracts but this might also be start over move. Miller's (et al) contract says win now, however. Ownership seems to get in the way of executing a vision.

 

[The Merchant]

I’d do it… might be unpopular, but Petey is a legit elite top line talent at center. Potential 100 point guy.

That sure would be a lot to give up for a 2C. What would be the best 2C in the league, but a 2C nonetheless

 

[henchman21]

That sure would be a lot to give up for a 2C. What would be the best 2C in the league, but a 2C nonetheless

He’d be 1C in two years… maybe less. If you want an extended window, a guy like Petey is how you do it.

 

[The Merchant]

He’d be 1C in two years… maybe less. If you want an extended window, a guy like Petey is how you do it.

So then we have a 2C in MacK making 12.6 for 6+ more years?

 

[Pokecheque]

So then we have a 2C in MacK making 12.6 for 6+ more years?

Doesn't matter, a 1-2 punch like that at center with Makar on the blueline would be unstoppable.

 

[henchman21]

So then we have a 2C in MacK making 12.6 for 6+ more years?

And have a Crosby/Malkin sort of setup… you can win weaker on the wings with those sorts of centers.

 

[AvStock]

Byram, Newhook, 2023 1st, (and maybe Girard for cap) for Petey.

 

[Vaslof]

You know they'd play the Swedes together, so lines would be something like this:
Lehkonen - MacK - Nichushkin
Landeskog - Pettersson - bestoftheworst

 

[Balthazar]

Byram, Newhook, 2023 1st, (and maybe Girard for cap) for Petey.

That's the kind of package they'd be looking for. Perhaps another piece.

Byram's health is probably too much of a concern right now for him to be considered as the main piece of a trade like that though.

 

[John Mandalorian]

Recently, J Rutherford has expressed a desire to acquire younger players. I think 25 and younger was mentioned?

Rantanen has 2.5 years left on his deal. He's 26.

Then...

Byram with a significant plus.

Which is more likely to gets the deal done?

 

[John Mandalorian]

Byram, Newhook, 2023 1st, (and maybe Girard for cap) for Petey.

You'd think the Avs would be willing to part with 3 years of 1sts in addition to Byram (even with Newhook included) for this kind of player.

 

[henchman21]

That's the kind of package they'd be looking for. Perhaps another piece.

Byram's health is probably too much of a concern right now for him to be considered as the main piece of a trade like that though.

Yeah on Byram… even if the value lined up, Vancouver doesn’t take that risk on health. They simply don’t need to with who would enter the bidding.

You'd think the Avs would be willing to part with 3 years of 1sts in addition to Byram (even with Newhook included) for this kind of player.

I’d give up the next 6 for Petey.

 

[Vaslof]

Recently, J Rutherford has expressed a desire to acquire younger players. I think 25 and younger was mentioned?

Rantanen has 2.5 years left on his deal. He's 26.

Then...

Byram with a significant plus.

Which is more likely to gets the deal done?

If they want futures we are out. Someone will offer a better, or less riskier, top prospect than Byram.

 

[AvStock]

Byram Needs to sober tf up then and play so he can get traded

 

[John Mandalorian]

Yeah on Byram… even if the value lined up, Vancouver doesn’t take that risk on health. They simply don’t need to with who would enter the bidding.


I’d give up the next 6 for Petey.

Yeah, but you wouldn't offer 6 right out of the gate. I'd think it would be around 3 that would get it done, keeping in mind that Vancouver has an incentive to trade him.

 

[dahrougem2]

I would easily trade Mikko Rantanen for Elias Pettersson. Would throw in our 1st and Newhook if need be.

Sure, perhaps overpayment when you add those two but being able to run:

Lehkonen - MacKinnon - Player X
Landeskog - Petersson - Nichushkin

would be insane.

 

[henchman21]

Yeah, but you wouldn't offer 6 right out of the gate. I'd think it would be around 3 that would get it done, keeping in mind that Vancouver has an incentive to trade him.

Dude has something like 100 points in his last 80 games. If he hits the market it isn’t the Avs just gradually offering pick by pick until it is secured… it is 20++ teams offering the farm, the house, the aunts trailer, the shed stolen from Ned, etc

 

[dahrougem2]

I would easily trade Mikko Rantanen for Elias Pettersson. Would throw in our 1st and Newhook if need be.

Sure, perhaps overpayment when you add those two but being able to run:

Lehkonen - MacKinnon - Player X
Landeskog - Petersson - Nichushkin

would be insane.

I realize as I say this Landeskog and Nichushkin are hurt and Pettersson would spontaneously combust if he was traded here immediately.

So perhaps just on paper it looks nice.