Rumor: 2022-2023 Free Agency and Trade Rumors: STILL searching for a 2C

[BobRossColton]

No... they wouldn't be at all. Hischier is the perfect compliment to Hughes as they build up to a contending team. They also have 2 prospects that are equal (or better) to Bo in talent and projection.

They could go after Horvat in the off-season.

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

They could go after Horvat in the off-season.

But why?

Why would they do that? What reason would they have to make such a substantial move with how well they're playing this year and with the young Dmen they already have on the way up the system?

 

[henchman21]

They could go after Horvat in the off-season.

But why would they do that? They currently have a better player and fit… and guys who are likely better than Byram.

 

[Vaslof]

We'll get a center at trade deadline and it will be a rental. No 2c acquisition in off-season either.

 

[CobraAcesS]

If you cut from the wing, you have to make a hard decision... and I don't mean Compher/ERod. I mean Nuke/Landy/Lehky... or Lehky.



It depends on the depth, but realistically, trading G allows a 7-8m C. Toews knocks a million off. As things stand, hard to go much over 5 unless you go super cheap on depth.

Larkin is the only one of those names that you could possibly get and that is only if the Wings don't re-sign him. Teams don't like to give up their homegrown core guys very easily.

I do think they'll try to solidify the position in the off season. I just have no idea what they doing during this year to address the issue. EJ is the only one with real expendable salary, but even he has some value as the right shot #6 that won't be easy or cheap to replace.

If you can't fix the real issue, is it worth it to buy at the TDL at all?

 

[henchman21]

I do think they'll try to solidify the position in the off season. I just have no idea what they doing during this year to address the issue. EJ is the only one with real expendable salary, but even he has some value as the right shot #6 that won't be easy or cheap to replace.

If you can't fix the real issue, is it worth it to buy at the TDL at all?

To answer the question.. yes. This is the last very clear year with any room whatsoever. Next year will get worse and all the succeeding years will likely too until by the time the Avs have actual cap space, the core will be too old. The Avs really need to be pushing this year.

 

[Colorado Avalanche]

#2 center isn't enough. This whole team needs a break from hockey or something. Lack of heart/intensity.. half hearted effort.

 

[BobRossColton]

But why?

Why would they do that? What reason would they have to make such a substantial move with how well they're playing this year and with the young Dmen they already have on the way up the system?

But why would they do that? They currently have a better player and fit… and guys who are likely better than Byram.

I'm bored and I think Byram is the only piece that could get us a long-term solution.

 

[CobraAcesS]

To answer the question.. yes. This is the last very clear year with any room whatsoever. Next year will get worse and all the succeeding years will likely too until by the time the Avs have actual cap space, the core will be too old. The Avs really need to be pushing this year.

Mmmm, yeah it a race against time, but if fate dictates a real run isn't possible. I'd rather take the assets to the draft and see what kind of long term solution they can get. Which could help keep them competitive a long time.

If they buy a pure rental with that 1st, it will be one less asset. I don't feel like watching us spend assets to get booted in the first or second round. Not even a little bit.

 

[John Mandalorian]

#2 center isn't enough. This whole team needs a break from hockey or something. Lack of heart/intensity.. half hearted effort.

Yeah, Georgiev wasn’t good. But do you think a Landeskog and/or Nichushkin are worth at least one more goal? And maybe even while subtracting one of Florida’s goals?

So a net value of +2 to 3 goals.

 

[Colorado Avalanche]

Yeah, Georgiev wasn’t good. But do you think a Landeskog and/or Nichushkin are worth at least one more goal? And maybe even while subtracting one of Florida’s goals?

So a net value of +2 to 3 goals.

Nuke and Landy would make a huge difference. They are fighters and leaders. This team lacks everything what they do the best.

No idea when they are coming back.

 

[henchman21]

I'm bored and I think Byram is the only piece that could get us a long-term solution.

Byram probably is the best piece, but salary issues creep in.

Mmmm, yeah it a race against time, but if fate dictates a real run isn't possible. I'd rather take the assets to the draft and see what kind of long term solution they can get. Which could help keep them competitive a long time.

If they buy a pure rental with that 1st, it will be one less asset. I don't feel like watching us spend assets to get booted in the first or second round. Not even a little bit.

I think odds of being competitive for a long time is very slim. Playoff team, sure... but that'll happen without this first too. To me, the Avs need to make a run this year first and foremost, if they can secure a player for another year or two after at a cheap rate, it is worth more than any draft picks or multiple in the next couple years.

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

I'm bored and I think Byram is the only piece that could get us a long-term solution.

I think so as well, but the other team needs to have a reason to make the trade as well.

New Jersey has zero need for Byram.

 

[CobraAcesS]

Byram probably is the best piece, but salary issues creep in.


I think odds of being competitive for a long time is very slim. Playoff team, sure... but that'll happen without this first too. To me, the Avs need to make a run this year first and foremost, if they can secure a player for another year or two after at a cheap rate, it is worth more than any draft picks or multiple in the next couple years.

Why are you so stuck on completely writing off the team after another couple of years? As long as Makar, Mack, and Mikko are here they should be able to build a cup team around them for a while. I'd argue they obviously already need a retool, but it only involves one or two guys.

If they can get a long term 2C, the positions we need to add at the tdl become a lot easier to get both in assets and cap.

I think next year we may have a better shot if they fix the right things and quit hoping a small center with flaws fixes the 2C issue for cheap. We may actually be able to add depth. We won't this year.

I'd have been all in had they actually kept Kadri, or solved the 2C issue another way. Now we don't have room to do shit without paying for it through the nose.

 

[BobRossColton]

I think so as well, but the other team needs to have a reason to make the trade as well.

New Jersey has zero need for Byram.

How about Ottawa for Norris even though he costs more. Haha

 

[CobraAcesS]

Byram probably is the best piece, but salary issues creep in.


I think odds of being competitive for a long time is very slim. Playoff team, sure... but that'll happen without this first too. To me, the Avs need to make a run this year first and foremost, if they can secure a player for another year or two after at a cheap rate, it is worth more than any draft picks or multiple in the next couple years.

To add, I don't see that player on the market, but maybe they surprise us.

 

[Chiarelli]

can Vancouver retain different amounts on millers contract this year and the one that kicks in next year if they trade him this years how does that work

 

[BobRossColton]

This is also why I keep reverting back to kotkaniemi. I know everyone else hates it, but imagine if something clicks and he becomes a 2c and he only costs 4.8 basically forever.

Edit: maybe Ryan strome regrets going to Anaheim. Girard for strome. Ha

 

[CobraAcesS]

This is also why I keep reverting back to kotkaniemi. I know everyone else hates it, but imagine if something clicks and he becomes a 2c and he only costs 4.8 basically forever.

If we traded for him I'd be confident with our pro scouts. If we're not after him with the way literally everyone knows we need centers. Then there are reasons.

Hench is good at pointing those out.

 

[BobRossColton]

Since they just signed him, this'll be a no, but like I said before I'm bored. Behrens+Newhook+2023'1st for JEE.

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

Since they just signed him, this'll be a no, but like I said before I'm bored. Behrens+Newhook+2023'1st for JEE.

Again, why does Minnesota do it?


They're even more desperate for Centers then us, why would they trade arguably the best Center they have?


You gotta look at teams that have a surplus of Centers and/or a significant need for Defensive help.


Vancouver, Ottawa, Florida, Los Angeles(Somewhat anyway)...

Those are the teams that would potentially have interest in one of our LHD and could maybe offer a Center worth trading for.

 

[BobRossColton]

Again, why does Minnesota do it?
Maybe boldy and Newhook click? Spurgeon 2.0 but inexpensive.


You gotta look at teams that have a surplus of Centers and/or a significant need for Defensive help.


Vancouver, Ottawa, Florida, Los Angeles(Somewhat anyway)...

A top 4 cost controlled Power, Byram, Samuelsson and Dahlin sounds nice if we got cozens..

 

[SoundwaveIsCharisma]

Again, why does Minnesota do it?


They're even more desperate for Centers then us, why would they trade arguably the best Center they have?


You gotta look at teams that have a surplus of Centers and/or a significant need for Defensive help.


Vancouver, Ottawa, Florida, Los Angeles(Somewhat anyway)...

Those are the teams that would potentially have interest in one of our LHD and could maybe offer a Center worth trading for.

Well, in that deal they are getting Connor Bedard, so that’s why

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

Well, in that deal they are getting Connor Bedard, so that’s why

fair point

 

[Balthazar]

They better not trade that 1st pick at the deadline if they aren't in a playoff spot. I don't care if it's a wasted year in the window, don't push your chips if you don't have a hand.