Rumor: 2022-2023 Free Agency and Trade Rumors: STILL searching for a 2C

[shadow1]

Vrana has only played in 28 of a possible 93 games for Detroit this season and last. He was just waived by one of the smartest GMs in hockey, and not a single team claimed him - not even crappy Arizona or Chicago. Vrana also has 0 goals, 1 assist, and a -6 rating in 6 AHL games this year.

Vrana's a great talent but it's obvious that either his mental or/and physical health is plaguing him right now.

EDIT: He was a healthy scratch last night for Grand Rapids.

Grand Rapids Griffins healthy scratch Jakub Vrana

Jakub Vrana is getting no favors from the Detroit Red Wings organization as he tries to make his comeback to the NHL.…

russianmachineneverbreaks.com

 

[SoundwaveIsCharisma]

Vrana has only played in 28 of a possible 93 games for Detroit this season and last. He was just waived by one of the smartest GMs in hockey, and not a single team claimed him - not even crappy Arizona or Chicago. Vrana also has 0 goals, 1 assist, and a -6 rating in 6 AHL games this year.

Vrana's a great talent but it's obvious that either his mental or/and physical health is plaguing him right now.

EDIT: He was a healthy scratch last night for Grand Rapids.

Grand Rapids Griffins healthy scratch Jakub Vrana

Jakub Vrana is getting no favors from the Detroit Red Wings organization as he tries to make his comeback to the NHL.…

russianmachineneverbreaks.com

This is part of my argument. There's a huge risk with Vrana, and you essentially HAVE to make a move just to make room for him. Maybe not this season, definitely next season. It also essentially eliminates the teams options for finding a 2C.

 

[Chiarelli]

In a non bedard/Covid fallout year I’m guessing Vrana would have been claimed.

 

[henchman21]

In a non bedard/Covid fallout year I’m guessing Vrana would have been claimed.

Probably, but just as much of the issue is he was placed in the program, not voluntarily admitted. Meaning his coke problem was enough that Detroit not only just didn’t dealt with it (because usage is high across the league), but felt he had to get rehab that he didn’t want.

 

[GoNordiquesGo]

Where ther's smoke, there's fire...

 

[The Abusement Park]

Where ther's smoke, there's fire...

Where there’s snow there’s avalanches?

 

[Bill Peckerskull]

Where there’s snow there’s avalanches?

Where there's pee there's poop

 

[henchman21]

Where there's pee there's poop

But is there poop where there’s pee?

 

[95snipes]

Not sure where his game is at these days, but if it's anything close to pre injury, I'd be interested in Sean Walker.

Ten NHL players who are falling out of favor and emerging as possible trade candidates

These players probably won't be moved by the March 3 trade deadline but could end up on new NHL rosters by the start of next season.

theathletic.com

 

[Bubba Thudd]

Where there's pee there's poop

But is there poop where there’s pee?

Isn't that saying the same thing, just reworded?

 

[Bill Peckerskull]

Isn't that saying the same thing, just reworded?

 

[henchman21]

Isn't that saying the same thing, just reworded?

Maybe I need to be more direct… the poop that is smeared on the wall, is there per there too?!

 

[Bill Peckerskull]

Isn't that saying the same thing, just reworded?

Technically, I should have said where there's poop, there's pee. Everyone knows you can pee with out pooping, but you can't poop without peeing. And for this mistake, I am truly sorry.

 

[Muffin]

Not sure where his game is at these days, but if it's anything close to pre injury, I'd be interested in Sean Walker.

Ten NHL players who are falling out of favor and emerging as possible trade candidates

These players probably won't be moved by the March 3 trade deadline but could end up on new NHL rosters by the start of next season.

theathletic.com

Kevin Hayes with 1-2M retained is perfect for this team.

 

[95snipes]

Kevin Hayes with 1-2M retained is perfect for this team.

We know the Avs have had interest in the past so it wouldn't be surprising to see that happen. I don't love the idea of including our '23 first in that deal though. At least at this point. That could change if we go on a major run before March 3rd. Maybe the '24 1st top 10 protected and one of our prospects that's not OO, Behrens or Foudy.

Or maybe even Newhook for Hayes at 50%. Not sure if that's bad for us or for them.

 

[Muffin]

We know the Avs have had interest in the past so it wouldn't be surprising to see that happen. I don't love the idea of including our '23 first in that deal though. At least at this point. That could change if we go on a major run before March 3rd. Maybe the '24 1st top 10 protected and one of our prospects that's not OO, Behrens or Foudy.

Or maybe even Newhook for Hayes at 50%. Not sure if that's bad for us or for them.

Philly won't retain 50% considering he has 3 more years on his contract after this year. It's rare enough teams be willing to retain contracts with terms on them. I can only remember Kessel being the only one.

 

[Pokecheque]

Kevin Hayes with 1-2M retained is perfect for this team.

If it were that simple it would've happened by now.

 

[henchman21]

Philly won't retain 50% considering he has 3 more years on his contract after this year. It's rare enough teams be willing to retain contracts with terms on them. I can only remember Kessel being the only one.

OEL too… Murray has another year too. It happens from time to time. 50% would asking a ton though. Roughly $6m = 1st round pick… then do the math.

 

[CobraAcesS]

Philly won't retain 50% considering he has 3 more years on his contract after this year. It's rare enough teams be willing to retain contracts with terms on them. I can only remember Kessel being the only one.

Someone posted the numbers on the main board, but they can retain around 2M/yr I think and be paying less total and it would be less years than a buyout.

 

[Muffin]

Someone posted the numbers on the main board, but they can retain around 2M/yr I think and be paying less total and it would be less years than a buyout.

Seems insane to me he could be a buyout candidate. His defense can't be THAT bad that you'd buy out someone who has 36 points in 41 games.

 

[dahrougem2]

Torts does this everywhere he goes. There is always one guy he clashes with more than the rest of the team. Clearly he has chosen Hayes this season. Players either respond to it or they want out - I bet Hayes is the type to want out.

 

[henchman21]

Torts does this everywhere he goes. There is always one guy he clashes with more than the rest of the team. Clearly he has chosen Hayes this season. Players either respond to it or they want out - I bet Hayes is the type to want out.

I don’t think he singles anyone out, but players either respond or don’t. If they don’t, he will make an example out of them. If there is a higher profile player, that’ll get run.

Hayes is a good, but flawed player. Easily a 2nd liner. If the NHL wasn’t so cap strapped, his contract would be looked at favorably. With nobody having any cap space, it gets tough. At 5m he’s a F bargain.

 

[Avs_19]

The Wings immediately putting Vrana on waivers after he returned was yet another red flag in a line of red flags. Of course they quickly leaked that it was due to some returning players in the future and needing cap space and that might partly be true but call me skeptical. Yzerman is ruthless and he was trying to rid himself of this issue all together IMO.

Good player but you can't take that risk with his contract. There have to be better options.

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

Brent Burns was also just traded last summer with $2.7M retention for 3 more years. Retained salary deals aren't necessarily unicorns.

The issue is likely convincing Philly that they need a rebuild. They seem to have an ownership group hell bent on mediocrity and never committing to the full rebuild. But if they do decided a true rebuild is the best way to go, retaining 50% on Hayes would absolutely be the right choice. That would allow them to maximize the return(And it would be a pretty nice return) while they go through years of not even trying to be competitive.

 

[henchman21]

Brent Burns was also just traded last summer with $2.7M retention for 3 more years. Retained salary deals aren't necessarily unicorns.

The issue is likely convincing Philly that they need a rebuild. They seem to have an ownership group hell bent on mediocrity and never committing to the full rebuild. But if they do decided a true rebuild is the best way to go, retaining 50% on Hayes would absolutely be the right choice. That would allow them to maximize the return(And it would be a pretty nice return) while they go through years of not even trying to be competitive.

They hired the exact wrong guy to coach a team trying to tank (ie so they aren’t trying to tank). Torts can take a bottom dwelling team and push them to .500. A .500 team into the wild card. He gives you the mushy middle if you’re bad. If your a wild card team to start, he can elevate to a good playoff team. From there, he tends to not be able to get teams all the way over the hump. Though he has had a number of good runs before that just came up short.