2022-2023 Blues Multi-Purpose Thread

[Stupendous Yappi]

Jimmy The Cab Driver! Donal Logue portrayed him. Can’t remember Randy’s face though. That was great stuff. I still reference the “skit” where he states his cab is a Time Machine because the road in front of him is the future, he’s currently in the present while he’s driving and the past is in his rear view mirror. Silly I know but still cracks me up. He also co-hosted 120 Minutes one night with Greg Dulli of the Afghan Whigs.

My name is Andy and I had fun in the 90s.

I seen the commercial for it. It looks like a helluva show!

 

[Celtic Note]

It probably goes without saying, but the trade of Tarasenko and Mikkola removes any cap issues this team was going to face if Scandella is able to return to the team this year. I have to say, I'm interested in seeing how the D looks with Scandella. He's been written off as useless by a huge chunk of the fanbase, but his absence this year is the biggest difference between the D last year and this year. It will be interesting to see if his return moves the needle at all. He's no savior, but I do think he's underrated.

Anyway, here's the cap situation if everyone gets healthy and we try to minimize waiver risk:

Forward group costs $37.925M.: ROR, Schenn, Buch, Saad, Thomas, Kyrou, Barby, Blais, Acciari, Walker, Torpo, Brown, and one of Leivo/Pitlick

D costs $29.2375M: Parayko, Faulk, Krug, Leddy, Scandella, Bortz, Rosen, and Perunovich

G costs $7.25M: Binner/Greiss

That's $74.4125M on the 23 man roster. We're carrying $1.1M in bonus carryover from last year and we retained $3.725M on Tarasenko. So all in, we're looking at $79.2625M against the cap to carry a 23 man roster with no injury relief. Let's assume that Greiss hits his 20 start bonus and we want to make sure that we put it on this year's cap. That puts us to $79.5125M.

All of this means that as we stand right now, we functionally have just shy of $3M in cap space that we can take on as part of trades. Now, this number isn't spot on since the cap is a daily calculation and we haven't been banking space all year. But it illustrates that we can take on a bad (expiring) contract as part of a deal to maximize a return. We're going to have to retain in any ROR trade, but we might not have to retain on Barby. That means that we could also potentially be the 3rd party of a trade that requires double retention.

And Armstrong has verified that they are willing and able to do that in his interview post Vladdy trade.

 

[Celtic Note]

Yeah that was covered in his interview too.

For those while haven’t watched it, it a fairly quick one. Answers about the trade and situation to some degree. No real answers about the future.

 

[Xerloris]

i still cant believe mikkola is gone

THIS IS AWESOME!


How about all 3 and instead you remove Krug and Binner's contract. That alone gets you cap space for all 3.

Parayko is not a legit #1 but thrived with JBO on the second pair because thats what he is.

We would still need a LD.

 

[ChicagoBlues]

We would still need a LD.

LOL We needs lotsa stuff.

 

[Linkens Mastery]

Defence First: Talk on Chychrun, Gavrikov, Myers and more — The Fourth Period

David Pagnotta offers updates on Jakob Chychrun & LA, Tyler Myers trade talk, Vladislav Gavrikov, and much more.

www.thefourthperiod.com

With the spotlight directed at the Blues lately – Barbashev, Ryan O’Reilly, Noel Acciari, Thomas Greiss, etc. – there are some whispers a couple of teams have been aggressively poking around on Colton Parayko.

 

[Mike Liut]

Defence First: Talk on Chychrun, Gavrikov, Myers and more — The Fourth Period

David Pagnotta offers updates on Jakob Chychrun & LA, Tyler Myers trade talk, Vladislav Gavrikov, and much more.

www.thefourthperiod.com

With the spotlight directed at the Blues lately – Barbashev, Ryan O’Reilly, Noel Acciari, Thomas Greiss, etc. – there are some whispers a couple of teams have been aggressively poking around on Colton Parayko.

for the right return, I’m down

 

[Bye Bye Blueston]

for the right return, I’m down

me too. i think he is much better than he has looked this year, but i also think we really really really need to change makeup of our d and he is one that would bring best return.

 

[Mike Liut]

me too. i think he is much better than he has looked this year, but i also think we really really really need to change makeup of our d and he is one that would bring best return.

i wouldn’t be surprised if Parayko is moved. I actually think it’s going to happen. Imagine having 4 - 1sts in this draft? And a second from Barbs.

 

[Bye Bye Blueston]

i wouldn’t be surprised if Parayko is moved. I actually think it’s going to happen. Imagine having 4 - 1sts in this draft? And a second from Barbs.

i still expect that barbs returns more than just a 2nd. maybe 2 2nds for him?

 

[Mike Liut]

i still expect that barbs returns more than just a 2nd. maybe 2 2nds for him?

Very possible. Or a 2nd a 3rd

 

[Louie the Blue]

Anyone else excited to see Tucker get more playing time?

 

[542365]

Anyone else excited to see Tucker get more playing time?

Yes and Perunovich. It'll be nice to see what we have in them without really worrying about the results too much.

 

[Linkens Mastery]

Anyone else excited to see Tucker get more playing time?

100%

Especially if the Blues can find a buyer for Krug.

Leddy-Colt
Scandella-Faulk
Tucker-Peru

 

[Bye Bye Blueston]

100%

Especially if the Blues can find a buyer for Krug.

Leddy-Colt
Scandella-Faulk
Tucker-Peru

That looks great for the 2 games until peru gets hurt again.

 

[Renard]

That looks great for the 2 games until peru gets hurt again.

I thought Tarasenko was finished after his most recent surgery. But he came back, played pretty well, and just commanded a first round draft pick.

I expect that almost all forum members doubt Peru can be an NHL player - but I hope I'm wrong. We need someone to come through for us!

 

[Beauterham]

Anyone else excited to see Tucker get more playing time?

It seems Army is high on him after watching the Tarasenko trade interview. He said one of the reasons of trading (and thus not resigning) Mikkola was because they wanted to make room for Tucker. He also mentioned they specifically wanted a guy like Hunter Skinner to be added to the deal who could potentially take over Tucker's spot in Springfield after Tucker was going to be called up.

 

[Xerloris]

I thought Tarasenko was finished after his most recent surgery. But he came back, played pretty well, and just commanded a first round draft pick.

I expect that almost all forum members doubt Peru can be an NHL player - but I hope I'm wrong. We need someone to come through for us!

He absolutely has the skill, my only concern is injuries.

 

[STL fan in MN]

He absolutely has the skill, my only concern is injuries.

Same. Perunovich’s hockey sense is well above NHL average. What’s unknown is if he can stay healthy and if his D can be at a minimum 3rd pairing level to be able to use his offensive abilities and smarts. I still have hope for the guy.

 

[Itsnotatrap]

Same. Perunovich’s hockey sense is well above NHL average. What’s unknown is if he can stay healthy and if his D can be at a minimum 3rd pairing level to be able to use his offensive abilities and smarts. I still have hope for the guy.

I really wish we could get off the Krug ride somehow, because a supplementary benefit would be we could put Perunovich in the best situation to evaluate and possibly succeed, assuming he could ever stay healthy.

 

[shpongle falls]

I was excited to see Perunovich play this year so it was a super bummer to see him out with a significant injury before the season started. At least now he’s got a good chunk of games to find his game again.

Love Tucker’s potential, he can replace Mikks size and snarl but is able to actually make a smart play once he has the puck.

 

[oPlaiD]

Perunovich emerging as an Adam Fox-lite player capable of playing on the top pairing or leading the second pairing is still probably one of the primary avenues towards this team becoming a contender faster than most of us anticipate, because he's probably the only defenseman we have in the system where if you squint you can kind of believe it happening.

I'm the captain of getting-injured-doesn't-necessarily-mean-you're-injury-prone bandwagon, especially regarding injuries like fractures, but it got pretty hard to drive that bus for Perunovich after suffering another major one so quickly. But I still believe the chance he has a full NHL career and isn't hindered by regular injuries is higher than most here likely think.

He feels like a player to me that will need a little bit of NHL time to figure out how to best deploy his tools against that level of competition, but one that has the smarts to do that and really break out after getting a little experience. So I hope he can get that experience the rest of the way this year.

 

[oPlaiD]

So apparently Robert Bortuzzo is now the longest tenured Blue?

Bortuzzo, Parayko, and Barbashev are the only ones who remember playing under Hitchcock.

We really have moved into a new era of Blues hockey. Here's hoping we have as much success as the last one.

 

[PocketNines]

Basic reading comprehension question ...

Read the following argument about Vladimir Tarasenko.​

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"Agree to disagree, used to be way more electric, his release used to be one of the best if not the best. Also did all of that with less talent around him in those years. Don’t get me wrong he was good last year but give me 2014-2017 Senko all day."​

​

The author of this statement argues all of the following EXCEPT:​

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A. Tarasenko used to be way more electric.​

B. Tarasenko's release used to be one of the best if not the best.​

C. Tarasenko did "all of" A and B with less talent around him from 2014-2017.​

D. Tarasenko had worse linemates in 2014-2017 and had to bear more of the PP responsibility.​

​

@sfvega

FWIW,
A is a true claim this author makes
B is a true claim this author makes
C is a false claim this author makes since the Blues won more games than any other NHL team during those four seasons which is objectively impossible to do without LOTS of talent
D is not a claim this author makes

 

[Majorityof1]

Perunovich emerging as an Adam Fox-lite player capable of playing on the top pairing or leading the second pairing is still probably one of the primary avenues towards this team becoming a contender faster than most of us anticipate, because he's probably the only defenseman we have in the system where if you squint you can kind of believe it happening.

I'm the captain of getting-injured-doesn't-necessarily-mean-you're-injury-prone bandwagon, especially regarding injuries like fractures, but it got pretty hard to drive that bus for Perunovich after suffering another major one so quickly. But I still believe the chance he has a full NHL career and isn't hindered by regular injuries is higher than most here likely think.

He feels like a player to me that will need a little bit of NHL time to figure out how to best deploy his tools against that level of competition, but one that has the smarts to do that and really break out after getting a little experience. So I hope he can get that experience the rest of the way this year.

You need to learn the difference between squinting and closing your eyes playing make believe. Perunovich is not, nor will he ever be anywhere near as good as Fox.