2022-2023 Blues Multi-Purpose Thread

[Brian39]

I think Neighbours played well enough to stick in an NHL roster that had 10 or 11 forwards effectively playing their role. I thought his play was fine enough if you could use those other forwards to adequately shelter him and not rely on him to be anything more than a passenger. But that isn't close to where we are at right now, he wasn't contributing, and he can absolutely benefit from AHL time.

Frankly, I don't want him around the room right now. You can't make typical rookie mistakes in this environment without the crowd getting ugly real quick. I don't know what is going on in the room, but is can't be great at the moment.

 

[BlueDream]

I agree with this wholeheartedly and I am surprised I haven't seen more of this on here. Maybe I am just missing it but I have really hated his game all year long. Think he came up last year and was a breath of fresh air but he does not look NHL quality to me at all.

Agreed. It blows my mind, I don’t understand it at all. Toropchenko even seems immune from getting healthy scratched ever.

They just handed him a spot when he’s not even an NHL player. He does nothing out there most of the time.

 

[Majorityof1]

Hopefully Brown isn’t too injured but he’s also been far from a difference maker. I wonder if he re-injured the left shoulder.

Berube said he didn't think it was a re-injury and was something new in the post game press conference. He wasn't 100% on what it was though.

 

[shpongle falls]

I’m a fan of Torps but I agree he just hasn’t looked as good as he did last year so far. I would rather see Pitlick on the 4th line, thought him and Acciari played well together.

 

[izzy]

I would not be shocked to see the Blues make an attempt at claiming Zaitsev.

He has a 4.5 cap hit..

 

[stl76]

I would not be shocked to see the Blues make an attempt at claiming Zaitsev.

Lol nobody is claiming Zaitsev.

 

[Brockon]

I would not be shocked to see the Blues make an attempt at claiming Zaitsev.

With what cap space? We've got about 1m in untapped LTIR relief from the Scandella injury what I understand - Zaitsev has a 4.5m AAV.

We'd need to have another major injury I haven't heard about or ship out Mikkola AND play 1 player short after sending another body down to the Minors to create the space.

 

[Vladys Gumption]

With what cap space? We've got about 1m in untapped LTIR relief from the Scandella injury what I understand - Zaitsev has a 4.5m AAV.

We'd need to have another major injury I haven't heard about or ship out Mikkola AND play 1 player short after sending another body down to the Minors to create the space.

And worst of all, Zaitsev is terrible.

 

[MissouriMook]

Just realized we are 0-6-0 in our weekday home blue sweaters this season. We are 0-4-0 at home in them and wore them the last two games when Boston and Philly wore their reverse retros. Burn them all and make the Winter Classic powder blues the full time homers.

 

[Brockon]

And worst of all, Zaitsev is terrible.

I wasn't going to address that aspect of the equation... Zaitsev is a serviceable 4-6 guy, but we have plenty of those. He doesn't exactly fit a need...

The bigger obstacle though, is we're pretty tight up against the cap and Zaitsev isn't on a cheap deal.

 

[Bye Bye Blueston]

Just realized we are 0-6-0 in our weekday home blue sweaters this season. We are 0-4-0 at home in them and wore them the last two games when Boston and Philly wore their reverse retros. Burn them all and make the Winter Classic powder blues the full time homers.

Yeah, that is the reason we suck.

But powder blues do look better.

 

[Spektre]

If the Blues wind up blowing it up Schenn shouldn’t be safe either.

Anyone know the most first round picks a team has had in a single draft??

ROR & Tarasenko should definitely return a 1st. Parayko and Schenn would return 1sts if moved. I hope Krug is dealt but I have my doubts Army would get a return worth it.

I’d be pretty excited if the Blues entered the draft with 5 first round picks but it probably won’t happen

 

[Brockon]

If the Blues wind up blowing it up Schenn shouldn’t be safe either.

Anyone know the most first round picks a team has had in a single draft??

ROR & Tarasenko should definitely return a 1st. Parayko and Schenn would return 1sts if moved. I hope Krug is dealt but I have my doubts Army would get a return worth it.

I’d be pretty excited if the Blues entered the draft with 5 first round picks but it probably won’t happen

From what I can see the only teams with multiple 1sts in this year's draft are:
MTL (FLA unprotected 1st)
CHI (TBL top 10 protected)
NYR (DAL top 10 protected)

 

[Spektre]

From what I can see the only teams with multiple 1sts in this year's draft are:
MTL (FLA unprotected 1st)
CHI (TBL top 10 protected)
NYR (DAL top 10 protected)

Sorry my question was what is the most 1st round picks a team has had in any draft. I think I found the answer of Montreal in 74 with 5

 

[Brockon]

Sorry my question was what is the most 1st round picks a team has had in any draft. I think I found the answer of Montreal in 74 with 5

My bad, I inferred you wanted to know about the upcoming draft because of the aforementioned players you think hold value.

 

[AjaxManifesto]

Hey...playing San Jose today

We suck, they suck...

...maybe we win eh?

 

[Vladys Gumption]

I wasn't going to address that aspect of the equation... Zaitsev is a serviceable 4-6 guy, but we have plenty of those. He doesn't exactly fit a need...

The bigger obstacle though, is we're pretty tight up against the cap and Zaitsev isn't on a cheap deal.

Scandella is over a million dollars cheaper and fills the exact same role. I can only imagine the heat Zaitsev would get being a similar player with and even larger cap hit.

 

[Brian39]

If the Blues wind up blowing it up Schenn shouldn’t be safe either.

Anyone know the most first round picks a team has had in a single draft??

ROR & Tarasenko should definitely return a 1st. Parayko and Schenn would return 1sts if moved. I hope Krug is dealt but I have my doubts Army would get a return worth it.

I’d be pretty excited if the Blues entered the draft with 5 first round picks but it probably won’t happen

I don't think Schenn is going anywhere and my eyes aren't telling me that he is driving the team's poor play. He's had some really bad nights/plays, but that has always been the case with him. He's been engaged physically (24 hits puts him on pace for 179 hits) and he is producing on the scoresheet. That production is inconsistent, but that's part of my expectation for a physical center/winger who makes $6.5M a year. His contract will for sure age poorly, but that also impacts his trade value. He has a full NTC and he strikes me as a guy who would rather try and be part of the solution here than waive for a trade this year.

If we're rebuilding and can get a 1st for him, then it would make sense. But I don't think we'd get that.

 

[Oberyn]

I'd prefer to keep Schenn out of all the vets. He's been the heart and soul of the team for a while, and makes sense to be the next captain if ROR departs. He's getting up there in age, but he still leads our team in points and looks to be offensively capable. I don't think my heart could take it to see him gone right after Perron and probably Tarasenko.

 

[Stupendous Yappi]

I think Neighbours played well enough to stick in an NHL roster that had 10 or 11 forwards effectively playing their role. I thought his play was fine enough if you could use those other forwards to adequately shelter him and not rely on him to be anything more than a passenger. But that isn't close to where we are at right now, he wasn't contributing, and he can absolutely benefit from AHL time.

Frankly, I don't want him around the room right now. You can't make typical rookie mistakes in this environment without the crowd getting ugly real quick. I don't know what is going on in the room, but is can't be great at the moment.

I see this demotion being driven by optimizing his development rather than due to him being responsible for struggles.

Silver lining: if the Blues aren’t going to be good, it’s better to be REALLY bad. The worst outcome is to be simply mediocre.

Of course that’s the cue for them to improve the team play up to ‘mediocre’ level.

 

[Bobby Orrtuzzo]

Tucker called up. Wonder how much, if any, action he seeds

 

[Beauterham]

Tucker called up. Wonder how much, if any, action he seeds

Bit surprised Tucker got called up. Nothing against Tucker as he's having a good start of the season, but with Bortz going on IR we only have 2 pure right defenceman while we have 5 (counting Tucker) left defenceman. This means we will always have to play one of our lefties on the right. I guess the Blues think Tucker can bring more physicality than any other defenseman at Springfield. If the Blues didn't had this ridiculous losing streak, Matt Kessel might have been the one to get the nod.

Curious to see what Tucker is able to do at the highest level.

 

[BlueDream]

Tucker called up. Wonder how much, if any, action he seeds

I’d imagine a good amount. They aren’t going to call him up to sit him in the press box.

Bit surprised Tucker got called up. Nothing against Tucker as he's having a good start of the season, but with Bortz going on IR we only have 2 pure right defenceman while we have 5 (counting Tucker) left defenceman. This means we will always have to play one of our lefties on the right. I guess the Blues think Tucker can bring more physicality than any other defenseman at Springfield. If the Blues didn't had this ridiculous losing streak, Matt Kessel might have been the one to get the nod.

Curious to see what Tucker is able to do at the highest level.

I’m not surprised, Kessel isn’t ready. He hasn’t played that many AHL games yet, and looked super raw in preseason. Tucker is more seasoned.

My hope is that Tucker grabs hold of a spot and then Kessel makes the team out of camp next year. Tucker-Kessel as our 3rd pair next season could be nice. I’m sick of the guys we currently have down there.

 

[Allens Five Hole]

Agreed. It blows my mind, I don’t understand it at all. Toropchenko even seems immune from getting healthy scratched ever.

They just handed him a spot when he’s not even an NHL player. He does nothing out there most of the time.

He brought energy last year and didn't seem like a total possession black hole (although someone may be able to provide status that suggest otherwise).

This year is totally different. Pretty much every time his line is on the ice, its a pass through the neutral zone that gets tipped in by Toro because he can't control it, he goes in and tries to forecheck but is too late, may get a hit, and then the puck is moved the other way. Rinse and repeat.

Edit: As I typed that out, that's actually pretty much every line right now

 

[Frenzy31]

That's what I've been wondering. I don't think O'Reilly is the type of player to intentionally sabotage anything, but I do think he's an emotional guy whose play may be affected by something like that. If I was O'Reilly and watched Perron leave without resistance from the GM and I didn't get very far in contract negotiations in the same offseason, I would imagine the thought of being next to go and having to uproot for the third time would weigh on me.

Here is the issue. He is playing for his next contract. He can be pissed at the Blues,but he is playing for his final contract. His play is costing himself money……….