2022-2023 Blues Multi-Purpose Thread

[execwrite1]

I simply don’t share your optimism that Bolduc and Dean will make the team out of camp. I think they could both use at least a majority of a season in the AHL first to adjust to the pro game. Maybe 10-20 NHL games as callups but I see it more like this:

Vrana-Thomas-Kyrou
Saad-Buchnevich-Kapanen
Neighbours-Schenn-X
Toropchenko-X-Blais
Alexandrov, Walker

I think the Blues need to make two adds at forward before next season starts. They could be relatively minor (like someone like Acciari) or maybe they’re able to get a legit 2C (ROR, maybe someone like Compher?) and they can move Buchy back to wing. But regardless, I think they need to add at least a couple more forwards and ideally, one of them needs to be good at faceoffs. The only C currently on the team that’s positive in faceoffs is Thomas. The Blues have been getting absolutely killed on faceoffs since trading away ROR and Acciari.

You're probably correct about Dean and Bolduc. I'm being aggressive in pushing the rebuild.

Throw them in the fire and let them learn - if they can't handle it, then down to Springfield.

If they have any money for free agents, use it for d-men, not forwards.

 

[ChicagoBlues]

You're probably correct about Dean and Bolduc. I'm being aggressive in pushing the rebuild.

Throw them in the fire and let them learn - if they can't handle it, then down to Springfield.

If they have any money for free agents, use it for d-men, not forwards.

I wouldn’t even want that for Dean and Bolduc. I’d prefer we give them a short controlled taste and, no matter how they perform, send them down with a mission.

Or maybe I’m misunderstanding you.

 

[STL fan in MN]

You're probably correct about Dean and Bolduc. I'm being aggressive in pushing the rebuild.

Throw them in the fire and let them learn - if they can't handle it, then down to Springfield.

If they have any money for free agents, use it for d-men, not forwards.

I’d love to improve the defense too but they’ll have to ship some guys out to do it. They currently have 8 d-men on one-way contracts. And that’s not counting Tucker, who figures to be in the mix as well.

They only have 10 forwards signed with Toropchenko as a RFA (Brown is a RFA too but I’m hoping he’s gone) so they’ll need to add at least a couple forwards.

Maybe those forward spots can be earned by guys like Bolduc or Dean but that’s doubtful. Army will almost certainly want to bring in guys that project to make the team so our kids can develop in the minors if that’s what’s best for them. That sort of aggression can really screw up a young player, pushing them into the NHL if they’re not truly ready yet.

 

[LionsHeart]

Hey, I’m not sure if I’m posting in the right place, but I was wondering if someone could tell me where the visitors tunnel is in Enterprise Arena? My wife and I were thinking about making the trip for the April 6th game against The Rangers.

 

[STL fan in MN]

Hey, I’m not sure if I’m posting in the right place, but I was wondering if someone could tell me where the visitors tunnel is in Enterprise Arena? My wife and I were thinking about making the trip for the April 6th game against The Rangers.

Right behind the visitor’s bench.

 

[execwrite1]

I simply don’t share your optimism that Bolduc and Dean will make the team out of camp. I think they could both use at least a majority of a season in the AHL first to adjust to the pro game. Maybe 10-20 NHL games as callups but I see it more like this:

Vrana-Thomas-Kyrou
Saad-Buchnevich-Kapanen
Neighbours-Schenn-X
Toropchenko-X-Blais
Alexandrov, Walker

I think the Blues need to make two adds at forward before next season starts. They could be relatively minor (like someone like Acciari) or maybe they’re able to get a legit 2C (ROR, maybe someone like Compher?) and they can move Buchy back to wing. But regardless, I think they need to add at least a couple more forwards and ideally, one of them needs to be good at faceoffs. The only C currently on the team that’s positive in faceoffs is Thomas. The Blues have been getting absolutely killed on faceoffs since trading away ROR and Acciari.

Interesting that Berube is trying out Neighbours on the line with Thomas and Kyrou.

He can rough up Kyrou and teach him how to check.

 

[execwrite1]

I’d love to improve the defense too but they’ll have to ship some guys out to do it. They currently have 8 d-men on one-way contracts. And that’s not counting Tucker, who figures to be in the mix as well.

They only have 10 forwards signed with Toropchenko as a RFA (Brown is a RFA too but I’m hoping he’s gone) so they’ll need to add at least a couple forwards.

Maybe those forward spots can be earned by guys like Bolduc or Dean but that’s doubtful. Army will almost certainly want to bring in guys that project to make the team so our kids can develop in the minors if that’s what’s best for them. That sort of aggression can really screw up a young player, pushing them into the NHL if they’re not truly ready yet.

Hard to fathom what Armstrong was thinking when he signed all these d-men to these contracts and made such a mess of the roster. No flexibility at all, locked in for years.

Strictly an overreaction to losing Petro because of the Blues refusal to give him the no-move clause. Seems clearly to be a huge mistake now.

Armstrong committed $13 million total annually to Krug and Faulk through 2026-27 compared to Petro $8.8 million.

 

[STL fan in MN]

Hard to fathom what Armstrong was thinking when he signed all these d-men to these contracts and made such a mess of the roster. No flexibility at all, locked in for years.

Strictly an overreaction to losing Petro because of the Blues refusal to give him the no-move clause. Seems clearly to be a huge mistake now.

Armstrong committed $13 million total annually to Krug and Faulk through 2026-27 compared to Petro $8.8 million.

Yep. Letting Petro go was the first big mistake and then many more mistakes were made trying to plug that hole.

 

[ChicagoBlues]

I've been mostly indifferent to the Pietro situation with maybe a slight leaning toward DA for being a hard ass.

Letting go of Pietro was a mistake, but DA could have isolated that mistake by not going crazy and signing too many defensemen. Dude went manic, but he must correct one of his mistakes this summer. Faulk or Krug, either one. Whoever is more attractive this summer.

Obviously Krug should be dealt, but Faulk may be easier to move because I'd think he is more attractive to potential suitors.

 

[MissouriMook]

Hey, I’m not sure if I’m posting in the right place, but I was wondering if someone could tell me where the visitors tunnel is in Enterprise Arena? My wife and I were thinking about making the trip for the April 6th game against The Rangers.

The visitor's tunnel is at the front of Section 104. If you're looking for tickets, good luck. I expect this game to be a tough ticket. As much as Tarasenko was loved in this town, you're going to have to pay a premium to get someone to part with their seats for this game.

 

[BrokenFace]

I've been mostly indifferent to the Pietro situation with maybe a slight leaning toward DA for being a hard ass.

Letting go of Pietro was a mistake, but DA could have isolated that mistake by not going crazy and signing too many defensemen. Dude went manic, but he must correct one of his mistakes this summer. Faulk or Krug, either one. Whoever is more attractive this summer.

Obviously Krug should be dealt, but Faulk may be easier to move because I'd think he is more attractive to potential suitors.

I understand each step of how the defense got this way, but as a whole it is a mistake. I liked getting Faulk as insurance and extending him when Petro wouldn't extend the Summer after the cup. I won't get into the Petro negotiations, but I understood signing Krug at the time after Petro left because we were already in win-now made with our other contracts. I'm also of the opinion that Faulk is worth his cap hit and would be excellent on a 2nd pairing with a true #1 in front of him. In the end, we never made a deep playoff run after the cup so these "going for it" contracts on defense weren't worth it.

It would obviously be ideal to move Krug this Summer without giving up any, or at least much, value for a team to take him, but it's not the end of the world if we don't move any of our big D contracts. If Krug and Faulk are healthy and productive next year, there might be a better market for them when they only have three years left next Summer. I don't foresee us being competitive next year anyway.

 

[Vladys Gumption]

I've been mostly indifferent to the Pietro situation with maybe a slight leaning toward DA for being a hard ass.

Letting go of Pietro was a mistake, but DA could have isolated that mistake by not going crazy and signing too many defensemen. Dude went manic, but he must correct one of his mistakes this summer. Faulk or Krug, either one. Whoever is more attractive this summer.

Obviously Krug should be dealt, but Faulk may be easier to move because I'd think he is more attractive to potential suitors.

Faulk definitely would be easier to move, but we have got to prioritize finding a way to move Krug. Faulk can help us win, and I just find Krug to be a detriment at this point.

 

[ChicagoBlues]

I understand each step of how the defense got this way, but as a whole it is a mistake. I liked getting Faulk as insurance and extending him when Petro wouldn't extend the Summer after the cup. I won't get into the Petro negotiations, but I understood signing Krug at the time after Petro left because we were already in win-now made with our other contracts. I'm also of the opinion that Faulk is worth his cap hit and would be excellent on a 2nd pairing with a true #1 in front of him. In the end, we never made a deep playoff run after the cup so these "going for it" contracts on defense weren't worth it.

It would obviously be ideal to move Krug this Summer without giving up any, or at least much, value for a team to take him, but it's not the end of the world if we don't move any of our big D contracts. If Krug and Faulk are healthy and productive next year, there might be a better market for them when they only have three years left next Summer. I don't foresee us being competitive next year anyway.

Yeah, man. I agree.

Faulk definitely would be easier to move, but we have got to prioritize finding a way to move Krug. Faulk can help us win, and I just find Krug to be a detriment at this point.

Yes, Krug is a detriment. Which demon do I have to conjure to make Krug go away?

 

[stlbluz]

 

[Linkens Mastery]

Yeah, man. I agree.


Yes, Krug is a detriment. Which demon do I have to conjure to make Krug go away?

How many broken bones does Krug require before he retires medically?

 

[Brockon]

How many broken bones does Krug require before he retires medically?

761 more minor ones.

 

[stlbluz]

How many broken bones does Krug require before he retires medically?

Maybe we'll find out that he's allergic to Fanatics Jerseys!

 

[ChicagoBlues]

How many broken bones does Krug require before he retires medically?

206

 

[TheFerenceWheel]

Well, I think my question ie Krug was pretty definitely answered has he been ok at the point on the power play? That’s where I miss him most on the Bruins

 

[ChicagoBlues]

Well, I think my question ie Krug was pretty definitely answered has he been ok at the point on the power play? That’s where I miss him most on the Bruins

He's been amazing! You're gonna love having him back on your team.

 

[STL fan in MN]

Well, I think my question ie Krug was pretty definitely answered has he been ok at the point on the power play? That’s where I miss him most on the Bruins

He was great on the PP last season. Ok this season.

Gets absolutely caved in 5 on 5. 70% Ozone starts, lower quality of competition, missed 20 games and yet still has a worse +/- than 897 other players.

 

[execwrite1]

He's been amazing! You're gonna love having him back on your team.

How about a 7th round pick in 2031?

 

[Xerloris]

How about a 7th round pick in 2031?

He's worth at least a 7th round in 2030

 

[STL fan in MN]

He's worth at least a 7th round in 2030

I’d even sign Dylan McLaughlin again over the summer just so we could include him in the trade as well.

 

[Mike Liut]

I wonder after drafting 3- 1sts this year and adding them to Snuggs, Bolduc, Neighbors, where that ranks our prospect pool?