2022-2023 Around The League

[dahrougem2]

Again, call me cynical but I want to see how the Devils respond to adversity before anointing them. They, much like Vegas, have had an absurdly easy schedule to start the season.

I know, I know. You can only play the teams you're scheduled against. But when only 6 of your 18 games are against teams that made the playoffs last season, I'm going to wait.

Speaking of Vegas looks like goaltending is getting right to where I thought it'd be. So far through 9 games in November both goaltenders aren't looking that great. Aidin Hill is in the negatives for GSAA while Logan Thompson is just barely above breakeven at 0.20.

 

[Chiarelli]

So acknowledging other teams are good means we’re insecure? Huh?

You know what you did wrong

 

[The Abusement Park]

You know what you did wrong

I mean I did nothing wrong.

 

[Balthazar]

Here's the top 15 in defenseman scoring so far this year, a few surprises in there. Makar 2nd in PPG but EK will have to cool off. Fox still pestering the top 3.

 

[AvsGuy]

Sergachev looking worth that contract which has me hugely surprised

Detroit makes the playoffs this year

 

[lionsDen]

I’ve watched parts of one devils game. They transition and move the puck absurdly good. We’ll see if they can Continue this. I was impressed

 

[The Merchant]

wut

 

[expatriatedtexan]

And it goes up to $14,743,588 for the next two seasons. Parise and Suter, the gift that keeps on giving.

 

[Metallo]

I'm reading the 2017 redraft thread on the main board and man, that's a tough one. So many top players for a draft that was supposed to be a shit one.

Dallas getting 3 elite players in a single draft is pure insanity.

1D:
Makar (elite)
Heiskanen (elite)

1G:
Oettinger (elite)

1C:
Pettersson
Suzuki
Hischier
Thomas
Norris

1W:
Robertson (elite)
Batherson
Necas

Makar should be labelled generational.

wut

Its the Pens all copying Geno's warmup for his 1000th game.

 

[Balthazar]

 

[dahrougem2]

That contract was universally panned the second he signed it. Panthers have nobody to blame but themselves.

 

[Colorado Avalanche]

That contract was universally panned the second he signed it. Panthers have nobody to blame but themselves.

Exactly. It's insane to pay a goaltender ten million.

 

[Pokecheque]

Was just looking at defense scoring leaders. How the hell is Hampus Lindholm a PPG player so far this year? Dudes career high is 34 and he has 18 in 18 so far.

I guess being an Anaheim Duck can have an adverse affect on your career unless your name is Teemu Selanne. Maybe Zegras goes full Gretzky if they ever trade him.

 

[TruePowerSlave]

Makar should be labelled generational.

Definitely not, at this point at least

 

[The Merchant]

Definitely not, at this point at least

 

[Hasbro]

That contract was universally panned the second he signed it. Panthers have nobody to blame but themselves.

And it turned out even worse than even Doomsayers predicted.

 

[Metallo]

Definitely not, at this point at least

He's about to break the record for quickest to 200 pts, with all the other hardware he's got already. I think he has a case for generational talent.

 

[TruePowerSlave]

He's about to break the record for quickest to 200 pts, with all the other hardware he's got already. I think he has a case for generational talent.

There are only a handful of generational players in history. Best to wait and see how most of Makar's career plays out before slapping him with the genarational stamp. The start has been brilliant but it's just his 4th season.

 

[Metallo]

There are only a handful of generational players in history. Best to wait and see how most of Makar's career plays out before slapping him with the genarational stamp. The start has been brilliant but it's just his 4th season.

5 players in history are generational? So 99, 66, 4, 9 and 9?

Crosby and Ovie are not generational?

Who, in you mind, is the best player ever that was not "generational"?

 

[TruePowerSlave]

5 players in history are generational? So 99, 66, 4, 9 and 9?

Crosby and Ovie are not generational?

Who, in you mind, is the best player ever that was not "generational"?

There are only a few generational players, people like to throw the term around way too often when an exciting young player comes along.

Makar has to earn that label and that's not achievable at this point in his career. We will need way more seasons of being clearly at a level above the competition to start making the argument. Maybe it happens maybe it won't, bottom line is that it's too early.

 

[The Abusement Park]

Exactly. It's insane to pay a goaltender ten million.

I mean I would’ve paid Vasi 10mil on his current contract. But Price and Bob got their contracts way past when they were worth 10mil.

 

[dahrougem2]

Generational players should transcend the game IMO. Crosby/Ovechkin fit that bill, the only player since is McDavid.

Makar will have to do a hell of a lot more to be labelled generational. Remember, Nick Lidstrom won the Norris 7 times but he is not a generational player.

 

[Pokecheque]

Generational players should transcend the game IMO. Crosby/Ovechkin fit that bill, the only player since is McDavid.

Makar will have to do a hell of a lot more to be labelled generational. Remember, Nick Lidstrom won the Norris 7 times but he is not a generational player.

The hell he wasn't. Just because a guy isn't flashy doesn't mean he isn't generational. He was head and shoulders above anyone else when he played, no one came even close.

If we want to wait on Makar, that's fine, but it's utter lunacy not to call Lidstrom generational.

 

[redacted]

Makar is in the midst of and likely to change how the game is played... while being the impetus of that change. I'd say that qualifies him as generational. I can get holding off a bit to see how that ends up, but all signs are showing him changing the game.

 

[dahrougem2]

The hell he wasn't. Just because a guy isn't flashy doesn't mean he isn't generational. He was head and shoulders above anyone else when he played, no one came even close.

If we want to wait on Makar, that's fine, but it's utter lunacy not to call Lidstrom generational.

I don't think Lidstrom is a generational defensemen. That term for me is reserved for the true franchise changers/savers and players who are clearly head and shoulders above their peers.

IMO while Lidstrom has the Norris trophies, he wasn't head and shoulders above his peers. I think in a lot of those seasons where he won it could have easily gone to a different defensemen, such as 00-01 to Bourque, 05-06 for Niedermayer, 06-07 for Pronger, etc.

I'm not trying to say he wasn't an all-time great defensemen, but generational to me he was not.