2022-2023 Around The League

[Vaslof]

Ooof, as of late I’ve seen a really dark side of HF. From rape apologists, racist sympathizers to this “anti-woke mob” defending Mitchell Miller. You would hope that with the increasing ease of accessibility to the world via the internet and all it brings we would see more connection in a positive manner, but instead it just allows the assholes to stick together more. I do legitimately worry about what the world will look like for my children to grow up in.

Emigrate from USA if you are financially able.

 

[Mr Zappalanche]

The racist sympathizers was a allusion to the Kadri/Blues situation. Also, there’s been plenty of rape-related issues that have reared their ugly heads enough times in the last year that have really revealed some peoples perspectives on it. I am all for debate, and thinking of things from multiple perspectives, but there’s also been plenty of evidence that there have been posters (many banned now) that are exactly as the label suggests. This isn’t a situation where I’m labelling someone because they disagree with me.

Fair enough. My main point was that you shouldnt worry about some internet dirtbag presence beacuse that is something that will never be eredicated, and some of the people are just idiots on internet but actually decent people in real life.

 

[Bill Peckerskull]

 

[redacted]

Emigrate from USA if you are financially able.

As flawed as the USA is, it is still an amazing country with a lot going for it. I’ve been to many countries and have lived in a few. I’ll probably buy a place in southern France, Spain or Portugal at some point to vacation at. Even with that, there is no where else I’d rather live. The spotlight is so bright on the US and the issues it faces that it tends to drown out similar things happening all over the western world.

 

[Vaslof]

As flawed as the USA is, it is still an amazing country with a lot going for it. I’ve been to many countries and have lived in a few. I’ll probably buy a place in southern France, Spain or Portugal at some point to vacation at. Even with that, there is no where else I’d rather live. The spotlight is so bright on the US and the issues it faces that it tends to drown out similar things happening all over the western world.

I cannot imagine living in fear of mass shootings, police violence, no affordable healthcare, no housing, no worker protection, no livable wages. Culturally it is great, and with money the US is your sandbox to play with. Anyway I don't want to argue. Just his statement about the world that his children will grow up in, for me the decision is clear and it's not the one with bulletproof backpacks.

 

[redacted]

I cannot imagine living in fear of mass shootings, police violence, no affordable healthcare, no housing, no worker protection, no livable wages. Culturally it is great, and with money the US is your sandbox to play with. Anyway I don't want to argue. Just his statement about the world that his children will grow up in, for me the decision is clear and it's not the one with bulletproof backpacks.

That is all the negative headlines thrown into one posts, and the nuance within seems to really get lost when you focus the headlines without the actual underlying. Are all of those problems? Absolutely! It just misses out on some details.

Like US is consistently one of the wealthiest nations on earth and has one of the highest PPPs in the world. It is almost always top 10 where the competition is either Arab countries with extreme oil wealth... or natural resourse/banking heavy European countries (Switzerland, Norway, Luxembourg). In the Arab countries, there is a vast difference in standard of living and liberty. In the European countries, there is a different trade off. Should be noted a one off there is Ireland. The US absolutely has some affordability issues, but compared to many (vast majority) of places, the standard of living is on a different level. Even compared to western countries. IE the difference is wages, standard of living, and economy in general between US and Portugal is vast.

On housing, there certainly are affordability issues and supply issues especially on the coasts and in high demand cities. Seattle, Vancouver, London, Berlin, etc all face these issues. That also isn't all the US either. You can buy really nice places in the midwest very affordably. It is a nuanced topic that varies greatly by region in the US. Just like homelessness... in bigger cities it is absolutely an issue, in smaller cities it can be, but not nearly to the extent. You wouldn't think it given the microscope on the US, but the US actually has a lower homeless rate than Sweden, UK, Australia, and a number of other western countries. The US can absolutely do better, but it does a better job that gets portrayed.

On the statement of worrying about the world that kids grow up in, this is a worry as old as time. And we ALWAYS should be worried about it. We always should be striving to make things better. Today's worries thought don't take into account progress that has been made. 25 years ago in a number of states it was still illegal to be homosexual. 50 years ago, most states had laws like that. 100 years ago, it was illegal in my area for anybody that wasn't white to own property in the city. What type of world is that to live in? It sucks to have that history, but progress has been made. We certainly have backslides that happen (and I'd argue we are in a period of that), but going to a hockey saying... development isn't linear. To only look forward at the problems is to ignore the progress of the past.

We could go back and forth on a number of these issues and there is plenty of good, and plenty of bad out there for the US. It is a varying shade of grey and a very nuanced topic. Along with that, the US is an enormous country with a lot of regional differences. The broad strokes can't really get a picture of the whole US. There are plenty of places I would never want to live in the US (like Memphis.... oooff), but there are some amazing places too.

 

[Ararana]

That's ESPN's 38th best player in the league Mo Seider, thank you very much...

 

[Bill Peckerskull]

Looks like McAvoy is back tonight for the Bs

 

[JoeSakic13]

Blues legend

 

[Vaslof]

That is all the negative headlines thrown into one posts, and the nuance within seems to really get lost when you focus the headlines without the actual underlying. Are all of those problems? Absolutely! It just misses out on some details.

Like US is consistently one of the wealthiest nations on earth and has one of the highest PPPs in the world. It is almost always top 10 where the competition is either Arab countries with extreme oil wealth... or natural resourse/banking heavy European countries (Switzerland, Norway, Luxembourg). In the Arab countries, there is a vast difference in standard of living and liberty. In the European countries, there is a different trade off. Should be noted a one off there is Ireland. The US absolutely has some affordability issues, but compared to many (vast majority) of places, the standard of living is on a different level. Even compared to western countries. IE the difference is wages, standard of living, and economy in general between US and Portugal is vast.

On housing, there certainly are affordability issues and supply issues especially on the coasts and in high demand cities. Seattle, Vancouver, London, Berlin, etc all face these issues. That also isn't all the US either. You can buy really nice places in the midwest very affordably. It is a nuanced topic that varies greatly by region in the US. Just like homelessness... in bigger cities it is absolutely an issue, in smaller cities it can be, but not nearly to the extent. You wouldn't think it given the microscope on the US, but the US actually has a lower homeless rate than Sweden, UK, Australia, and a number of other western countries. The US can absolutely do better, but it does a better job that gets portrayed.

On the statement of worrying about the world that kids grow up in, this is a worry as old as time. And we ALWAYS should be worried about it. We always should be striving to make things better. Today's worries thought don't take into account progress that has been made. 25 years ago in a number of states it was still illegal to be homosexual. 50 years ago, most states had laws like that. 100 years ago, it was illegal in my area for anybody that wasn't white to own property in the city. What type of world is that to live in? It sucks to have that history, but progress has been made. We certainly have backslides that happen (and I'd argue we are in a period of that), but going to a hockey saying... development isn't linear. To only look forward at the problems is to ignore the progress of the past.

We could go back and forth on a number of these issues and there is plenty of good, and plenty of bad out there for the US. It is a varying shade of grey and a very nuanced topic. Along with that, the US is an enormous country with a lot of regional differences. The broad strokes can't really get a picture of the whole US. There are plenty of places I would never want to live in the US (like Memphis.... oooff), but there are some amazing places too.

No need no need! I want you to stay if you like it

 

[SoundwaveIsCharisma]

Fair enough. My main point was that you shouldnt worry about some internet dirtbag presence beacuse that is something that will never be eredicated, and some of the people are just idiots on internet but actually decent people in real life.

Fair point.

 

[McMetal]

My child is transgender and last year as a freshman he was bullied horribly. Told to kill himself as well as being called every possible slur on a daily basis. A lot of it was at school but also through social media. With social media it was documented so the kids couldn’t deny it. School did the bare minimum. Had people sign non contact agreements and that was it. I was extremely upset at the school and they did finally tell the kids parents but the bullying continued all year. I found a great school in a different city and my son and I moved so he could attend said school. It was a great decision and he is happy and thriving in the new school. Long story but my point is the schools don’t do anything. Super f’ed up if you ask me

Yeah, that was my experience in middle school too. I was bullied for being "gay" (the kids were wrong, but that didn't stop them) because I was weird and different. School administrators acted like I was the problem for complaining about all the bullying and harassment. This was before social media, but at the dawn of email, so I remember getting a lot of vicious stuff from anonymous email accounts. We went to the police even, but since email was so new, there were no laws against it. They said if they were using the postal system to send the threats it would be a different story, but there was nothing they could do. F***ed up stuff all around, kids are absolute savages when it comes to bullying. I don't doubt that it's a hundred times worse now with social media.

Finally, I ended up moving to a different school where nobody knew me for the last half of 8th grade, and then went to a private school through high school, but not before I punched out one of the kids who was harassing me (on my last day in that school). They didn't even suspend me for it, they were just glad to be rid of me and my constant complaining about the bullying. School admins don't really give a f*** about bullies, they treat the victims like they're the problem and turn a blind eye to the actual problems until it's too late.

 

[Balthazar]

Weird timing isn't it?

$10 says that Jeremy Jacobs called Bettman because of the Miller situation and said "if Miller can't play then Mailloux can't either". Even though those situations are nothing alike.

 

[SoftMittsHardSticks]

Weird timing isn't it?

$10 says that Jeremy Jacobs called Bettman because of the Miller situation and said "if Miller can't play then Mailloux can't either". Even though those situations are nothing alike.

While I can totally see Jacobs pulling something petty like that, my guess is that the NHL had a bunch of people come asking about Mailloux after the Miller situation publically blew up, and they wanted to get ahead of it with a firm stance rather than have to respond to controversy

 

[Pokecheque]

Weird timing isn't it?

$10 says that Jeremy Jacobs called Bettman because of the Miller situation and said "if Miller can't play then Mailloux can't either". Even though those situations are nothing alike.

I seriously doubt that took place. The NHL could very well just want to stay ahead of what will be another PR firestorm once the time comes to decide Mailloux's NHL future. I hope Logan and his camp do a better job (at least publicly) of portraying his contriteness and willingness to change.

 

[Northern Avs Fan]

JT Miller secured the bag and that’s all he ever cared about.

 

[Balthazar]

JT Miller secured the bag and that’s all he ever cared about.

He's been like that all year

 

[redacted]

JT Miller secured the bag and that’s all he ever cared about.

That like when I’m play NHL and take a drink of beer

 

[Bill Peckerskull]

 

[JWK]

Love petty stuff like this

 

[Balthazar]

Love petty stuff like this

He's a POS for doing this to Buffalo fans IMO.

 

[myperbixhurts]

Looks like Flyers and Sabres honeymoon is over

 

[Balthazar]

Looks like Flyers and Sabres honeymoon is over

Sens and Sabres can't stop losing.

Doesn't matter how much talent you inject to those teams, it's like a never ending thing.

 

[Balthazar]

If there's one team that could have used Torts as a coach it's the freakin' Oilers. He wouldn't give a f*** if Drai and Mcdavid could score 100 goals. They'd backcheck, lead by example and play as a team or get benched.

No one would ever convince me that the way these 2 are playing aren't at the root of all their problems. Their D and G are hung out to dry all the time while the 2 stars are just busy padding their personal stats.

 

[The Merchant]

Clown celly on an empty net goal. Don't care if it was for a hatty in Buffalo