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Rumor: 2022-2022 Trade Rumors and Free Agency Part 14: Sakic goes back to bed

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Now that the two best centers in the league (McDavid, Matthews) on teams with bad defenses and no 1D, were eliminated in the first round, and swept in the conference finals, that should officially prove to everyone that 1D's and defense in general are more important than 1C's.

Defense wins. It's the great equalizer. You can't go anywhere in the NHL without it. 1D > 1C
 
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Foppa2118 said:
Now that the two best centers in the league (McDavid, Matthews) on teams with bad defenses and no 1D, were eliminated in the first round, and swept in the conference finals, that should officially prove to everyone that 1D's and defense in general are more important than 1C's.

Defense wins. It's the great equalizer. You can't go anywhere in the NHL without it. 1D > 1C
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I mean everything matters. I think 1C's are the most important position but if you wanna win a cup you kinda need everything. Exceptions of course like the Penguins that one year but some years one is more valuable than the other.

Great teams win. I think in all these conversations wingers get insanely underrated as well. They are nowhere near as valuable as a 1C/1D but alot of these cup teams would lose without them. Justin Williams, Dustin Brown, Marian Gaborik, Patrick Sharp, Phil Kessell, Marian Hossa, Kucherov etc. People re-write history abit IMO because in alot of cup runs those guys were as valuable as anybody.

1C is the most important position IMO but the gap is nowhere near as big as some act and you can absolutely overcome it with incredible defense.
 
ANewHope said:
I mean everything matters. I think 1C's are the most important position but if you wanna win a cup you kinda need everything. Exceptions of course like the Penguins that one year but some years one is more valuable than the other.

Great teams win. I think in all these conversations wingers get insanely underrated as well. They are nowhere near as valuable as a 1C/1D but alot of these cup teams would lose without them. Justin Williams, Dustin Brown, Marian Gaborik, Patrick Sharp, Phil Kessell, Marian Hossa, Kucherov etc. People re-write history abit IMO because in alot of cup runs those guys were as valuable as anybody.

1C is the most important position IMO but the gap is nowhere near as big as some act and you can absolutely overcome it with incredible defense.
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I just don't see how 1C can be the most important position the way the seasons ended for Matthews and McDavid. They're the best centers in the NHL and they lost because their teams had bad defenses and no 1D.
 
ANewHope said:
I mean everything matters. I think 1C's are the most important position but if you wanna win a cup you kinda need everything. Exceptions of course like the Penguins that one year but some years one is more valuable than the other.

Great teams win. I think in all these conversations wingers get insanely underrated as well. They are nowhere near as valuable as a 1C/1D but alot of these cup teams would lose without them. Justin Williams, Dustin Brown, Marian Gaborik, Patrick Sharp, Phil Kessell, Marian Hossa, Kucherov etc. People re-write history abit IMO because in alot of cup runs those guys were as valuable as anybody.

1C is the most important position IMO but the gap is nowhere near as big as some act and you can absolutely overcome it with incredible defense.
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1D is the most important for me
 
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Foppa2118 said:
Now that the two best centers in the league (McDavid, Matthews) on teams with bad defenses and no 1D, were eliminated in the first round, and swept in the conference finals, that should officially prove to everyone that 1D's and defense in general are more important than 1C's.

Defense wins. It's the great equalizer. You can't go anywhere in the NHL without it. 1D > 1C
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Counterpoint: you can't do sh¡t if you don't have both
 
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I just don't see how 1C can be the most important position the way the seasons ended for Matthews and McDavid. They're the best centers in the NHL and they lost because their teams had bad defenses and no 1D.
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Yet, Toronto pushed Tampa to 7 games having Campbell in net.

Also, didn't Nashville used to have like 2 or 3 #1 D and couldn't win it all?
 
Alienblood said:
1D is the most important for me
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Great goaltender is the most vital part imo.

Defenseman is probably next because they can influence game for 30min per game.

Hasbro said:
Nice having him as an RFA.
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Good and bad because someone might offer sheet him

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When Nashville’s D was truly stacked they had almost no offense. Suter also left as soon as he could.
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True, too much of anything isn't good if it leaves cracks other parts of the roster.
 
I think a small but hopeful part of me thinks that with this SCF birth, it opens up some possibilities of players willing to sign as FAs here this offseason for a chance at a cup.

The Avs have finally shown they can make it there. You may have more players than usual willing to come here as mercenaries. Really opens up the depth aspect. Some good depth forwards and defencemen may come cheap.
 
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After these playoffs I definitely believe Compher is tradable if we want to, without retention either. Than Myers can take his spot as the 3 or 4 C and we save some money there and put it towards Nuke and Lehk.
 
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Avsboy said:
Compher is tradeable alright, but with his clutch performances and rare solid RHS, maybe he should be kept?
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Or maybe sell high? Everything should be done to open cap room and get assets for acquisition of a #2C.

Hopefully we can send him off into the sunset with a cup ring.
 
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Foppa2118 said:
Now that the two best centers in the league (McDavid, Matthews) on teams with bad defenses and no 1D, were eliminated in the first round, and swept in the conference finals, that should officially prove to everyone that 1D's and defense in general are more important than 1C's.

Defense wins. It's the great equalizer. You can't go anywhere in the NHL without it. 1D > 1C
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A #1 C is like a QB. It helps elevate the franchise but if the overall roster is not deep, you won't win much in the playoffs. a #1 D is like a pass rusher, it makes things easier.
You need both to win. Your roster has to have balance and depth to win.
 
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CalderKing21 said:
A #1 C is like a QB. It helps elevate the franchise but if the overall roster is not deep, you won't win much in the playoffs. a #1 D is like a pass rusher, it makes things easier.
You need both to win. Your roster has to have balance and depth to win.
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The SC POs is a war of attrition and exposes a team’s deficiencies whether that be G, D corps, top 6, bottom 6, physicality and depth. Remember the Avs ousted a WCF finalist while missing a starting G, D-man and F. Most impressively, the Avs have repeatedly shown comeback ability.
 
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