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Prospect Info: 2022 - 1st OA] Juraj Slafkovsky (LW) Part 4

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I think it's a bit ridiculous for that article to claim that Wright is ''too good for the OHL''. The way he played last year certainly wasn't demonstrative of someone being vastly superior to his peers. I believe he has a lot left to learn in juniors and would benefit from improving in all facets of the game.

Anyhow, I'm not going to talk about Wright too much. Slaf played a tremendous game last night; he was all over the ice and the confidence he has with the puck is apparent. I'd like it if he had a bit more playing time, but that'll surely come in due time.
 
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ChesterNimitz said:
I’ve been saying that for months and was largely ridiculed for such heresy. To this observer, Fantilli outplayed Bedard at the U18 Championship. Fantilli’s superior size and speed projects better at the NHL level. Now let’s see if any team has the wisdom to go against the prevailing consensus as Montreal and two other teams did with respect to Wright at the last draft.
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I don’t think Montreal went against the grain. Mackenzie was just a snapshot of the tides having turned... It had turned even more when teams got together when making their list.

On draft day, the Athletic reporter said from draft floor sources that it was now a very solid majority that had Slaf #1. Now there’s even speculation that if Seattle hadn’t picked him at 4, Philly and Columbus would have passed too.
 
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Lafleurs Guy said:
I already answered this. More ice, he’d dominate… then we bring him up.
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Dominating the A does not automatically translate to dominating the NHL. So even if you bring him back up, he still plays bottom 6, just like now. Waste of time. On the other hand, if the goal is "domination", and he does not dominate in Laval after 4 games, do they try Trois-Rivieres next?

Now, if there was a SPECIFIC thing they wanted him to work on that he was just not learning yet in Montreal, and it was important enough to oust him from the top-12, then by all means send him down. I would hope it would not be for penalty killing or shot blocking, but something important for his development path that he was failing to grasp after repeated tries, and it was costing the team.
 
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DAChampion said:
Meanwhile, Shane Wright has been scratched for his third straight game, and is averaging six and a half minutes of ice time in his other games. A lot of posters here who took a lot of flak are looking vindicated for going against the preliminary grain of Wright as consensus #1.
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Really anybody following the situation by watching any 10 random games of Wright would have said he's not the #1. It was obvious.

ChesterNimitz said:
I’ve been saying that for months and was largely ridiculed for such heresy. To this observer, Fantilli outplayed Bedard at the U18 Championship. Fantilli’s superior size and speed projects better at the NHL level. Now let’s see if any team has the wisdom to go against the prevailing consensus as Montreal and two other teams did with respect to Wright at the last draft.
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You mean the tournament I watched every single second of and could not believe Fantilli was a top 10 prospect? That tournament? I think Fantilli is doing well, but I have yet to see him take control of big-time games the way Bedard is always on.
 
ChesterNimitz said:
I’ve been saying that for months and was largely ridiculed for such heresy. To this observer, Fantilli outplayed Bedard at the U18 Championship. Fantilli’s superior size and speed projects better at the NHL level. Now let’s see if any team has the wisdom to go against the prevailing consensus as Montreal and two other teams did with respect to Wright at the last draft.
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What do you think of Michkov, abstracting the Russian situation?
 
BenchBrawl said:
What do you think of Michkov, abstracting the Russian situation?
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Watching that same tournament Michkov was head/shoulder ahead of everyone else.
But I'll say this, the U18 is always when Canada doesn't have their whole team and that specific U-18 was filled with 16 years old to a degree not seen often before. So if you have to calibrate a bit for the young Canadian team (vs. the Russian team) it's still hard to compare them individually. Bedard U20s performances should be in the balance as well.
 
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BaseballCoach said:
Dominating the A does not automatically translate to dominating the NHL. So even if you bring him back up, he still plays bottom 6, just like now. Waste of time. On the other hand, if the goal is "domination", and he does not dominate in Laval after 4 games, do they try Trois-Rivieres next?

Now, if there was a SPECIFIC thing they wanted him to work on that he was just not learning yet in Montreal, and it was important enough to oust him from the top-12, then by all means send him down. I would hope it would not be for penalty killing or shot blocking, but something important for his development path that he was failing to grasp after repeated tries, and it was costing the team.
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Getting 20 minutes is better than getting 10…

And again, I hate the idea of him slowing down mid season and then we send him down…
 
DAChampion said:
Meanwhile, Shane Wright has been scratched for his third straight game, and is averaging six and a half minutes of ice time in his other games. A lot of posters here who took a lot of flak are looking vindicated for going against the preliminary grain of Wright as consensus #1.
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It’s super preliminary, of course. There will be ebbs and flows along the way but like you, real happy with the early returns.
 
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Dominating the A does not automatically translate to dominating the NHL. So even if you bring him back up, he still plays bottom 6, just like now. Waste of time. On the other hand, if the goal is "domination", and he does not dominate in Laval after 4 games, do they try Trois-Rivieres next?

Now, if there was a SPECIFIC thing they wanted him to work on that he was just not learning yet in Montreal, and it was important enough to oust him from the top-12, then by all means send him down. I would hope it would not be for penalty killing or shot blocking, but something important for his development path that he was failing to grasp after repeated tries, and it was costing the team.
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Crushing the AHL means zilch. The Habs greatest AHLer prospect of all time that broke AHL records and was scoring 1 goal a game was the great Stéphane Lebeau, aka the Next One.
 
Lafleurs Guy said:
Getting 20 minutes is better than getting 10…

And again, I hate the idea of him slowing down mid season and then we send him down…
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They would only need to send him to Laval if that slowdown took him out of the top-12. But seeing as he is around #8-9 now, I don't see the value in pre-emptively sending him down, him getting whatever results he gets in Laval, then bringing him back up to play in the bottom 6 again, like everyone who graduates from the AHL does anyway.

Incidentally, if he continues getting PP2 time and producing there, he will probably be closer to 11-12 minutes, at the minimum. Only problem is that if you score on the power play, the PP clock stops, LOL.
 
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Wait and see what he does between now and his 9th game and then decide if you want to keep him around playing 11 minutes a game in the NHL or playing in the AHL where he'd probably average 18+ minutes. ELC's are valuable and burning a year for a season where the Hab's aren't going anywhere might not be the best decision.🤷‍♂️
 
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Xirik said:
Wait and see what he does between now and his 9th game and then decide if you want to keep him around playing 11 minutes a game in the NHL or playing in the AHL where he'd probably average 18+ minutes. ELC's are valuable and burning a year for a season where the Hab's aren't going anywhere might not be the best decision.🤷‍♂️
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He could probably get 22 minutes in Trois-Rivieres.
 
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Kennerback said:
I don’t think Montreal went against the grain. Mackenzie was just a snapshot of the tides having turned... It had turned even more when teams got together when making their list.

On draft day, the Athletic reporter said from draft floor sources that it was now a very solid majority that had Slaf #1. Now there’s even speculation that if Seattle hadn’t picked him at 4, Philly and Columbus would have passed too.
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There is also speculation that Santa Claus is real and that the earth is a spec of dust under a giants fingernail..........can we avoid using Trumpian tactics to support our theory please and thank you. Evidence is fun you should try it.
 
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Whats the downside of Slaf playing 10 AHL games and then revisiting where he is playing ?
 
Xirik said:
Wait and see what he does between now and his 9th game and then decide if you want to keep him around playing 11 minutes a game in the NHL or playing in the AHL where he'd probably average 18+ minutes. ELC's are valuable and burning a year for a season where the Hab's aren't going anywhere might not be the best decision.🤷‍♂️
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It’s obvious Marty is following a plan for Slafkovsky. He’s not playing 10-12 minutes a night because he doesn’t trust him or doesn’t want him to make mistakes like other coaches this team had, he’s giving him those minutes to let him adapt and adjust to the pace of the game. Yesterday he was playing a very good game and he felt it was ok to give him some PP time on the 2nd unit.

His minutes will increase in a few weeks.

They know what they are doing.
 
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SuzukiSZN said:
It’s obvious Marty is following a plan for Slafkovsky. He’s not playing 10-12 minutes a night because he doesn’t trust him or doesn’t want him to make mistakes like other coaches this team had, he’s giving him those minutes to let him adapt and adjust to the pace of the game. Yesterday he was playing a very good game and he felt it was ok to give him some PP time on the 2nd unit.

His minutes will increase in a few weeks.

They know what they are doing.
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So your saying MSL is better the Hakstol?:naughty:
 
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yianik said:
Whats the downside of Slaf playing 10 AHL games and then revisiting where he is playing ?
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Adjustment. New coach, new system, new teammates, new role, new competition and a new town. He's had a couple of months to adjust to the Habs and the NHL. Throwing all that out of the window for just 10 games in the AHL would be crazy.
 
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ChesterNimitz said:
I’ve been saying that for months and was largely ridiculed for such heresy. To this observer, Fantilli outplayed Bedard at the U18 Championship. Fantilli’s superior size and speed projects better at the NHL level. Now let’s see if any team has the wisdom to go against the prevailing consensus as Montreal and two other teams did with respect to Wright at the last draft.
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Fantilli looks like he's in his 30s. Remember what they said about Wright? "He looks like a grown man! There's not much room for physical improvements! You gotta go with the kid who actually looks like a kid" :sarcasm:
 
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