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Prospect Info: 2022 - 1st OA] Juraj Slafkovsky (LW) Part 4

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RationalExpectations said:
When people can‘t make a difference between toxicity and free speech on a forum designed to exchange points of view, maybe they are the ones who don‘t belong here. Just a thought.


I am not sure about Evans but with Armia and Slaf you definitely have two wingers able to keep the puck in the O Zone.
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I started a Twitter account today! Let that “sink” in…
 
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ChesterNimitz said:
You have aptly described last year's Evans. This year, he has shown little of what you described. But, as I said, its still early. But if his play does not improve, he will be replaced.
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Not a priority today. Beck or Mesar could replace him and more one day. Or another of our prospects might step up. Or we get a cheap vet, there are tons of them if we are satisfied with limited production and only want good defensive work.
 
I think Dach will need to keep proving he belongs on the top line and can follow the pace of Suzuki/Caufield cause Slaf will be right there awaiting for his chance. A matter of time before Slaf plays more and gets more opportunities.
 
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JustAHabFan said:
Are we sure Slaf will be with the team the whole year?
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Why wouldn't he? He's the team 5-6 best forward right now and getting better every games.

Laval has a bigger extra players problem than the Habs at both forwards and defense too. I think Hughes might have overcompensated for all the injuries that happened last season. He's going to have to trade players sooner than later to make things more manageable in the NHL and AHL.
 
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SuzukiSZN said:
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Not a surprise. I've seen him do that many times either in videos or in international comp. He is very good at forchecking and stealing puck. The rest of his game is raw but what needs to be developed is usually not too hard to develop. He got the size to have a good shot without much trouble. I see him as havingt the potential to do what Nichuskin is doing atm. But we must be patient with him it wont happen overnight.
 
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ChesterNimitz said:
The kid has shown he can skate at the NHL level. He is a physical presence on the ice. He’s getting scoring chances. He’s getting an opportunity to play on the power play. He’s scoring . He’s part of a growing young core of players on an ascending team. His respected coach says he is improving each game. He seems to be a popular player among his teammates. I can’t see the logic in sending him to Laval so he can play two more shifts a period against inferior opposition.

But above all, professional sports is entertainment. Most fans want to see Slafkovsky play. If he’s sent down who takes his place Dadonov? Pez? Some other call up?
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His development is more important right now. He has years to entertain you…
 
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SuzukiSZN said:
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It's amazing how much work he still needs yet because of his insane overall make up he can still give you flashes like that.

I think a lot of people are selling him short. If he can keep progressing and get anywhere near his ceiling he'll be a star. I was worried (from lack of knowledge) that he didn't have a shot and that would really hamper his upside. Glad to know I was wrong. You can easily see how dynamic he can be in a few years. Lot of mojo in his game. I don't know his ultimate upside but it's sky high. He's certainly not a total ding bat if he can hang this early which bodes well for any IQ concerns.
 
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Lafleurs Guy said:
His development is more important right now. He has years to entertain you…
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Agreed. This is not about entertainment. The question everyone is asking is WHERE to do the development. Some say Laval. I'm not so sure.

Why would development in Laval be better if Slafkovsky is already good enough to be our 5th best winger right now?

Who is going to mentor him best? Suzuki or Belzile?

Who is going to coach him best, St. Louis or Houle?

Who is going to challenge him best, Brady Tkachuk or Laurent Dauphin?

Which goalie does he need to learn to beat more, Andrei Vasilevsky or Zachary Fucale?

Why in heck would Laval be better for his development?????????????

If there is a good reason, then send Caufield and Guhle and Harris and Xhekaj there too, since they are not learning enough here.

Surely with the great development in Laval, the Habs would be better off with Bowey, Leskinen, Schueneman, Harvey-Pinard and Ylonen instead of the five guys we have on ELC. The Laval quintet have learned so much already this year!!!!!

Right?
 
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BaseballCoach said:
Agreed. This is not about entertainment. The question everyone is asking is WHERE to do the development. Some say Laval. I'm not so sure.

Why would development in Laval be better if Slafkovsky is already good enough to be our 5th best winger right now?

Who is going to mentor him best? Suzuki or Belzile?

Who is going to coach him best, St. Louis or Houle?

Who is going to challenge him best, Brady Tkachuk or Laurent Dauphin?

Which goalie does he need to learn to beat more, Andrei Vasilevsky or Zachary Fucale?

Why in heck would Laval be better for his development?????????????

If there is a good reason, then send Caufield and Guhle and Harris and Xhekaj there too, since they are not learning enough here.

Surely with the great development in Laval, the Habs would be better off with Bowey, Leskinen, Schueneman, Harvey-Pinard and Ylonen instead of the five guys we have on ELC. The Laval quintet have learned so much already this year!!!!!

Right?
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I already answered this. More ice, he’d dominate… then we bring him up.
 
BaseballCoach said:
Agreed. This is not about entertainment. The question everyone is asking is WHERE to do the development. Some say Laval. I'm not so sure.

Why would development in Laval be better if Slafkovsky is already good enough to be our 5th best winger right now?

Who is going to mentor him best? Suzuki or Belzile?

Who is going to coach him best, St. Louis or Houle?

Who is going to challenge him best, Brady Tkachuk or Laurent Dauphin?

Which goalie does he need to learn to beat more, Andrei Vasilevsky or Zachary Fucale?

Why in heck would Laval be better for his development?????????????

If there is a good reason, then send Caufield and Guhle and Harris and Xhekaj there too, since they are not learning enough here.

Surely with the great development in Laval, the Habs would be better off with Bowey, Leskinen, Schueneman, Harvey-Pinard and Ylonen instead of the five guys we have on ELC. The Laval quintet have learned so much already this year!!!!!

Right?
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I wouldn’t want my worst enemy to follow the Ylonen and RHP development path.
 
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DAChampion said:
Not surprised the 2023 draft is going to be more complex than people said.

I predicted that the Habs will draft around the 8th overall spot, I hope they get someone good there.
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Bedard is in a league of his own but the fact two other 2023 draft players are still sticking with him in WHL scoring is giving me pause with the generational label.
 
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DAChampion said:
Meanwhile, Shane Wright has been scratched for his third straight game, and is averaging six and a half minutes of ice time in his other games. A lot of posters here who took a lot of flak are looking vindicated for going against the preliminary grain of Wright as consensus #1.
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Just imagine the shit show in Montreal if Slafkovsky was looking this good off the bat in New Jersey? As a good CH fan, I would be defending Wright. Center is harder position to learn… Not everyone is great off the bat… And so on and so forth…

The problem is Wright is far away from being a bona fide Top-6 player, the massive gulf between him and Beniers can’t be explained only by the fact they have one year difference. And Montreal fans were freaking out after 2 preseason games with Slaf!!! Could you imagine waiting a long 2 years for Wright to turn the corner while Slafkofsky is tearing it up in Jersey!
 
DAChampion said:
Meanwhile, Shane Wright has been scratched for his third straight game, and is averaging six and a half minutes of ice time in his other games. A lot of posters here who took a lot of flak are looking vindicated for going against the preliminary grain of Wright as consensus #1.
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It still seems WAY too early to say but one thing that's promising is that isn't Wright more a finished product than Slaf? Slaf seems more raw which bodes REALLY well for us making the right pick
 
WeThreeKings said:
Even in limited minutes tonight, he flashed mostly every shift and he flashed different things each shift.. what will be the goal is getting those flashes to be consistent (the same battle we have with Dach) and having him display all those different qualities together, rather than in pieces.

Was physical, strong on the boards, showed his heavy shot on the goal, made some good passes, showed his soft hands, was tenacious on the forecheck and turned pucks over.
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Yeah, he's trying to find his niche in this league, and lately it looks like being this high energy tenacious forchecker could work out for him in a good way.

He was animal on the forcheck coming from long distances to close down on the defense and have them cough up pucks.

Its scary that he can be this imposing at 18.
 
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BaseballCoach said:
Grant McCagg just put Fantilli ahead of Bedard. The fun re-starts!
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I’ve been saying that for months and was largely ridiculed for such heresy. To this observer, Fantilli outplayed Bedard at the U18 Championship. Fantilli’s superior size and speed projects better at the NHL level. Now let’s see if any team has the wisdom to go against the prevailing consensus as Montreal and two other teams did with respect to Wright at the last draft.
 
ChesterNimitz said:
I’ve been saying that for months and was largely ridiculed for such heresy. To this observer, Fantilli outplayed Bedard at the U18 Championship. Fantilli’s superior size and speed projects better at the NHL level. Now let’s see if any team has the wisdom to go against the prevailing consensus as Montreal and two other teams did with respect to Wright at the last draft.
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By the time of the draft, Wright was no longer the consensus #1. Mackenzie tipped everyone off.

By the way, I agree that Fantilli has a chance to be drafted first. His NCAA start is off-the-charts incredible. Lots of time this season to keep watching.
 
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