Prospect Info: 2022 - 1st OA] Juraj Slafkovsky (LW) Part 4

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I'm 6'3 170 ish and despite playing 4 sports on a regular basis I don't really think I ever got any man strength and I'm 31 now
I'm sure if you think back to how you were as a late teen. You'll notice now that you're physically a lot stronger.
 
When you need to exaggerate a lot to make a point, usually means there is no substance to your argument to support your stance.
Alright I’ll bite, the reason why most 18 years old don’t hang around in the league in their first year is usually purely physical and not skill wise.

A player who is 6 feet and 166 pounds will get easily overwhelmed and won’t be able to hang around.

Slaf is a physical beast already and just needs to adjust to the game. He has already made huge strides in his last few games and is looking more and more comfortable out there.

He has nothing to learn by playing with fringe nhl players in the ahl. We are rebuilding this year anyway so I don’t see why we shouldn’t keep him the full year.

And for people saying a losing environnement is bad for a player I would say it’s a matter of character.
Crosby played on the worst team in the league when he started and frankly I think it made him better, he started to hate losing and did everything he could so that he wouldn’t lose anymore.

Going 1st overall will be a label and a tag that will follow him around all of his career no way around it.

From what I have seen this guy already had a lot of pressure in his country and seemed to get used to it pretty easily. It’s nothing new for him plus us fans are for the most part not stupid and understand that players needs time
To develop.

Is that enough arguments for you ?
 
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Thanks for your reply. I've always considered myself to be athletic. But when it comes to lifting and strength training. My knowledge is limited. So thank you for taking the time to educate me a little.

I always just kept active to stay in shape. Playing sports all year round (baseball, soccer, football) in the summer. Hockey in the winter and martial arts all year round.

Haha...For some reason in my mind. You were like 6'3 around 250lbs.


Haha...I have a huge personality. Which adds another dimension. ;)
I wish I was 6'3, lol!
 
To be honest I've never really thought about it but I've always been fast and consider myself to be fairly weak but you could be right
Since I'm married and not used to being right. I'm marking this day and time on my calendar. ;)

One of my younger brothers has your build. He's not quite as tall, he's around 6ft. But weighs about the same. He never gained a ton of strength, but his endurance is ridiculous. He just turned 50 and he continues to run marathons all over North America.
 
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This week’s episode of Pierre McGuire exuberant and ebullient comments on Slafkofsky:
- “Will be a star… Major League Grand Slam…Huge”
- Should stay in the NHL, doesn’t see the point in sending him down to the AHL, fast enough and big enough already, target should be to play him 12 to 14 minutes a game in the NHL
 
This week’s episode of Pierre McGuire exuberant and ebullient comments on Slafkofsky:
- “Will be a star… Major League Grand Slam…Huge”
- Should stay in the NHL, doesn’t see the point in sending him down to the AHL, fast enough and big enough already, target should be to play him 12 to 14 minutes a game in the NHL
Please don’t send him down, too much fun to watch!!!!!!!
 
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This week’s episode of Pierre McGuire exuberant and ebullient comments on Slafkofsky:
- “Will be a star… Major League Grand Slam…Huge”
- Should stay in the NHL, doesn’t see the point in sending him down to the AHL, fast enough and big enough already, target should be to play him 12 to 14 minutes a game in the NHL
You mean the guy that drafted Tyler Boucher 10th overall? That’s really the opinion you’re using to back your point?
 
Thank you for the reply.

For me I believe I was in my early 20's. At 18 I was around 5'7 175lbs. By 21 I had put on 25lbs. The majority of it being muscle. Being a shorter man. I'm curious how long it took for some of the larger posters, to hit their peak.

I'm 6'3 170 ish and despite playing 4 sports on a regular basis I don't really think I ever got any man strength and I'm 31 now

I went from 5'2 to 5'11 in a year in high school and it was the one time in my life I would classify as skinny. Was 6'1 190pds at Slafs age and have a somewhat similar build (Wide shoulders, suits have to be made for someone who is 6'4).

The old man strength is a bit of a fallacy, it's more relevant to what type of work (or workouts) a person does regularly in their late teens to late 30's that causes the extra strength and IMO its mostly about wrist strength and developed muscular endurance from physical labour/workouts. I mean the sheer volume of workouts make a difference but I suspect a hockey player only wants the quads of a bodybuilder, the rest of the muscle development might be a bit to much lol.

Slafs' a big boy, you can see his core strength isn't fully developed (Which is expected, I don't know how fitness theory has changed in the last 20 years but generally speaking it was never a good idea to try to develop heavy muscle mass while you're still growing). He'll get better on his skates unless his issue is balance-related which i doubt being an athlete of his caliber. I'm guessing he's done growing.

His issue from what I see is whats' been posted consistently; he is about 1/3rd of a second too slow reading the play and he looks confused on offensive positioning probably due to the smaller ice. His defensive play is much better then alot of our former rookies but he seems to "puck watch" alot which he should break out of hopefully as his play reading/reaction time improves.

He would demolish the OHL as he's 40 pounds heavier than the biggest players in those leagues and I don't see the point. The AHL is perfect for him as being 1/3rd of a second behind the play is about the normal pace there. It would help him get used to the ice, pot some points, and figure out how to adjust his skills to be useful in the NHL. It also would let him learn to take the body better i think. He looks ok to me at the moment from a size/ability standpoint in the NHL he isn't thinking the game quickly enough to make an impact and seems to be a bit of a passenger on his line at times. Though he has made some progress each game which makes it encouraging that he'll have it put together by year end.

He's no Rantanen, I'm getting older school Tim Kerr style vibe from him, probably not as mean though. Not sure how that translates in the current NHL at the moment and he probably has better puck possession skills.
 
I went from 5'2 to 5'11 in a year in high school and it was the one time in my life I would classify as skinny. Was 6'1 190pds at Slafs age and have a somewhat similar build (Wide shoulders, suits have to be made for someone who is 6'4).

The old man strength is a bit of a fallacy, it's more relevant to what type of work (or workouts) a person does regularly in their late teens to late 30's that causes the extra strength and IMO its mostly about wrist strength and developed muscular endurance from physical labour/workouts. I mean the sheer volume of workouts make a difference but I suspect a hockey player only wants the quads of a bodybuilder, the rest of the muscle development might be a bit to much lol.

Slafs' a big boy, you can see his core strength isn't fully developed (Which is expected, I don't know how fitness theory has changed in the last 20 years but generally speaking it was never a good idea to try to develop heavy muscle mass while you're still growing). He'll get better on his skates unless his issue is balance-related which i doubt being an athlete of his caliber. I'm guessing he's done growing.

His issue from what I see is whats' been posted consistently; he is about 1/3rd of a second too slow reading the play and he looks confused on offensive positioning probably due to the smaller ice. His defensive play is much better then alot of our former rookies but he seems to "puck watch" alot which he should break out of hopefully as his play reading/reaction time improves.

He would demolish the OHL as he's 40 pounds heavier than the biggest players in those leagues and I don't see the point. The AHL is perfect for him as being 1/3rd of a second behind the play is about the normal pace there. It would help him get used to the ice, pot some points, and figure out how to adjust his skills to be useful in the NHL. It also would let him learn to take the body better i think. He looks ok to me at the moment from a size/ability standpoint in the NHL he isn't thinking the game quickly enough to make an impact and seems to be a bit of a passenger on his line at times. Though he has made some progress each game which makes it encouraging that he'll have it put together by year end.

He's no Rantanen, I'm getting older school Tim Kerr style vibe from him, probably not as mean though. Not sure how that translates in the current NHL at the moment and he probably has better puck possession skills.
Thanks so much for the reply.

Wow, with a growth spurt like that. Did you suffer any "growing pains"? Being short, I never had to deal with it. But I've heard that for people that have had large growth spurts, it can be quite painful.

The examples I provided were all training to become future police officers. The kids were normal first year college students. Most were high school athletes. So, I'm not sure of the amount of physical training or jobs they had before I met them. All I can say is after a 2 or 3 year period. I always noticed a huge difference in both their strength and balance. I know part of that was they were on a more controlled physical regiment. I also figured that during the 2 or 3 year period. That their body was naturally adjusting to its say "adult phase". As I mentioned though, my knowledge in this area is quite limited. lol

I see a lot of the same issues with Slafkovsky. The smaller ice surfaces are a huge factor, as he has less time to react or make decisions. I'm not too worried about that though. It's all timing, and with repetition. His reactions will become quicker, much more natural. I've noticed the "puck watching" and confusion as well. Though the more games he's played. I've noticed it's become less and less.

I'm in agreement about the OHL. I feel it would be a wasted year due to the fact that he's already played in a league above. I'm good with him going to the AHL. Only If he stagnates or falls behind. If he continues to show improvement. I see no need to send him down.

Kerr is an interesting comparison. I honestly don't see it though, as Kerr wasn't a very good skater. Which is why he parked his ass in front of the net the majority of the time. Slafkovsky has much better hands and his passing skills are much better than Kerr imo. Kerr wouldn't survive in the NHL now, maybe as a PP specialist.
 
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Alright I’ll bite, the reason why most 18 years old don’t hang around in the league in their first year is usually purely physical and not skill wise.

That's not even remotely true.
It takes a lot more than just physical strength to play in the nhl.

Just in the 1st round of last draft, there were several players 6 feet+ tall and around 200 lbs heavy that got sent down.
 
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