Prospect Info: 2022 - 1st OA] Juraj Slafkovsky (LW) Part 4

[RinkWink]

Muscle memory - Wikipedia

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[Habs10Habs]

I acknowledge he has not shown certain aspects of his physicality. Still, you will see his physical dominance this season!

I really like Slaf, so I'm hoping I do. But as of this moment, I just haven't seen it yet.

 

[Kennerback]

As I mentioned, I don't care what he's done in the past. What's important is what he does now and in the future.

I know that you’re a very reasonable poster, still not looking at the past had brought the ridiculous posts that dominated the board this summer on Nemec and Wright.

You are coming from a common sense angle but if it’s not sourced on anything you risk yoking yourself with those posters that dominate the Slaf thread, some of which confessed they had “never” seen him play before starting to criticize him.

 

[Dharvey08]

No, that 1 goal doesn't change anything. He should be sent down to the ahl once Armia is back.

I think he should play the pewee tournament in Quebec City

 

[Habs10Habs]

I know that you’re a very reasonable poster, still not looking at the past had brought the ridiculous posts that dominated the board this summer on Nemec and Wright.

You are coming from a common sense angle but if it’s not sourced on anything you risk yoking yourself with those posters that dominate the Slaf thread, some of which confessed they had “never” seen him play before starting to criticize him.

First off, thank you for the compliment. I usually try to put myself in the shoes of the person I'm debating with.

All I mean by saying that I don't look at the past is. What he's accomplished in the past, is in the past.

I personally never saw him play in Liga. I did watch a little bit of him during the Olympics though. So in other words, I knew almost nothing about him. So the only way I can make judgments about him. Is by watching what he does right now. I'm happy we chose him. Though he still needs some work as he's incredibly raw. In saying that, as I've said before. I have seen him progressively get better.

 

[An0n]

You’re fighting a losing battle with the other posters with blinders on. Really sorry…

I wonder who's got the blinders on.. Posters who are being critical of someone's play or posters who claim said player can do no wrong.

 

[Mrb1p]

Yes he's strong, but at 18. He still hasn't developed his "man strength" yet. Right now he's holding his own. By the time he's 21 or 22 years old. Is when you'll truly start to notice his true strength. If for example, you had Xhekaj and Slafkovsky playfully wrestle. Even though they're about the same size. My guess is for now, Xhekaj would throw him around like a rag doll.

Up until pre-covid. I used to work with OPP cadets, training them in self-defense. In my late 40's, at 5'7 and around 210lbs. I could easily toss around guys (18-20 years old) some were almost a foot taller and weighed 20 sometimes 30lbs more than I did. Once these guys became older. I was no longer able to overpower them.

Damn h10h youre a stump

It might be, there is an input factor to consider, the rink size.
The last year, he might have more time to brace for a check, turn his body properly, forcheck angles...
He'll be better, once he adjusts to less time, smaller rink.
He does go down more often than one would think he should at the moment.

This is true and then add in the fact that smaller rinks yields more battles and then that NHL players are the strongest athletes in hockey and its easy to understand.

 

[Habs10Habs]

Damn h10h youre a stump

lol one of my nicknames in university was 4x4.

Edit: You're actually the perfect one to ask. My understanding is you're a big guy who is under 30. How old were you when your "man strength" developed?

 

[Mrb1p]

lol one of my nicknames in university was 4x4.

The original cube

 

[Fainting Couch]

He got some stank on his hang low and now will begin to impregnate all the nets.

 

[Wats]

Easy to be a bull when you’re just surrounded by muskrats.

If you can’t acknowledge that he’s falling like 5 times per game and is outmuscled on most puck battles (he only wins pucks by stick checking), then it’s pointless discussing with you.

Heck he gets rocked seconds before he even scores his first NHL goal.

 

[Habs10Habs]

The original cube

lol yes. Check out my edit, I have a question there for you.

 

[Wats]

Some NHL Euro All-Stars (Euro Men’s League - draft year)


2022 - Juraj Slafkovsky - 31-5-5-10
2015 - Sebastian Aho- 30-4-9-13
2015 - Kirill Kaprizov - 31-4-4-8
2014 - Adrian Kempe - 45-5-6-11
2011 - Nikita Kucherov 9-0-2-2
2011 - Mika Zibanejad 25-5-4-9
2010- Artemi Panarin 20-1-7-8 (undrafted)
2010- Evgeny Kuztnesov - 35-2-6-8
2005- Anze Kopitar - 5-0-0-0
2004- Evgeny Malkin - 34-3–9-12
2003- Milan Michael - 46-3-5-8
2001- Miko Koivu - 21-0-1-1
1999- Martin Havlat - 24-2-3-5
1998- Pavel Datsyuk - 18-2-2-4
1994 - Patrick Elias - 17-1-2-3
1993 - Saku Koivu - 46-3-7-10
1993 - Viktor Kozlov - 30-6-5-11
1991 - Alex Kovalev - 18-1-2-3
1989 - Sergei Fedorov - 44-9-8-17
1988 - Dimitri Khristich - 37-9-1-10

Interesting how pretty much none of those players played draft+1 in NHL and mostly came into league after putting up good numbers elsewhere.

 

[ReHabs]

lol yes. Check out my edit, I have a question there for you.

My answer is mid20s I found myself more solid and dense despite being not athletic/muscular just not fat.

I have a family member who is chubby in a not dense, loose way and they had pretty much zero strength into 26/27. I think he’s taken up boxing fitness but I doubt it undoes 10 years of Mt Dew.

 

[Wats]

I think he should play the pewee tournament in Quebec City

When you need to exaggerate a lot to make a point, usually means there is no substance to your argument to support your stance.

 

[Kennerback]

One of my favourite posters has been bombarding my Slaf posts with laugh emojis. I’m so happy I’m such a source of entertainment and serendipity for him.

 

[Kennerback]

Interesting how pretty much none of those players played draft+1 in NHL and mostly came into league after putting up good numbers elsewhere.

Why don’t you also tell us how many seasons each prospect spent in the AHL and CHL.

 

[Habs10Habs]

My answer is mid20s I found myself more solid and dense despite being not athletic/muscular just not fat.

I have a family member who is chubby in a not dense, loose way and they had pretty much zero strength into 26/27. I think he’s taken up boxing fitness but I doubt it undoes 10 years of Mt Dew.

Thank you for the reply.

For me I believe I was in my early 20's. At 18 I was around 5'7 175lbs. By 21 I had put on 25lbs. The majority of it being muscle. Being a shorter man. I'm curious how long it took for some of the larger posters, to hit their peak.

 

[Fandangle]

Slaf dropping F bombs after 1st career goal was hilarious. F-Off-Sky is my new nick name for him.

 

[Mrb1p]

lol yes. Check out my edit, I have a question there for you.

Its a trick question because most of my bulk comes from lifting so Im not sure its super relevant to an athlete like Slaf who has other things to worry about vs just me packing on muscle/strength but pretty much during my last "peaking" phase last winter.

Im sure Ill get stronger still.

I think though, athletically, like being fast, endurance, etc, I peaker at 22-23, though I was not as strong.

I think old man strength is a real thing, all you have to do is look at all strength records start after 26 towards 33 and stop around 35. 26 would be more dynamic things like olympic lifting and 33 would be static things like deadlifts (Hafthor Bjornsson deadlifter 501 kg at 31, Eddie Hall did 500 kg at 29.).

Im assuming in terms of a hockey players it would be around 25.

Thank you for the reply.

For me I believe I was in my early 20's. At 18 I was around 5'7 175lbs. By 21 I had put on 25lbs. The majority of it being muscle. Being a shorter man. I'm curious how long it took for some of the larger posters, to hit their peak.

Note that Im not that big, Im 5'11

Im also part of the stump crew.

 

[Kennerback]

When you need to exaggerate a lot to make a point, usually means there is no substance to your argument to support your stance.

In terms of odds of really happening, it’s exactly the same as Slaf playing in the OHL: 0.0%.

 

[habsfan891]

Thank you for the reply.

For me I believe I was in my early 20's. At 18 I was around 5'7 175lbs. By 21 I had put on 25lbs. The majority of it being muscle. Being a shorter man. I'm curious how long it took for some of the larger posters, to hit their peak.

I'm 6'3 170 ish and despite playing 4 sports on a regular basis I don't really think I ever got any man strength and I'm 31 now

 

[Jaaanosik]

The original cube

You are one dimension short. 4x4 is only a square.

 

[Mrb1p]

You are one dimension short. 4x4 is only a square.

Im sure h10h is thicc enuf.

 

[Habs10Habs]

Its a trick question because most of my bulk comes from lifting so Im not sure its super relevant to an athlete like Slaf who has other things to worry about vs just me packing on muscle/strength but pretty much during my last "peaking" phase last winter.

Im sure Ill get stronger still.

I think though, athletically, like being fast, endurance, etc, I peaker at 22-23, though I was not as strong.

I think old man strength is a real thing, all you have to do is look at all strength records start after 26 towards 33 and stop around 35. 26 would be more dynamic things like olympic lifting and 33 would be static things like deadlifts (Hafthor Bjornsson deadlifter 501 kg at 31, Eddie Hall did 500 kg at 29.).

Im assuming in terms of a hockey players it would be around 25.


Note that Im not that big, Im 5'11

Im also part of the stump crew.

Thanks for your reply. I've always considered myself to be athletic. But when it comes to lifting and strength training. My knowledge is limited. So thank you for taking the time to educate me a little.

I always just kept active to stay in shape. Playing sports all year round (baseball, soccer, football) in the summer. Hockey in the winter and martial arts all year round.

Haha...For some reason in my mind. You were like 6'3 around 250lbs.

You are one dimension short. 4x4 is only a square.

Haha...I have a huge personality. Which adds another dimension.