Value of: 2022 #1 overall if Devils win draft lottery

HugeInTheShire

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Devils definitely don’t want to win the lottery this year, mostly because NHL team are too scared to do the right thing and trade the pick if the BPA is redundant. If they trade down, people will be shocked at the lack of assets headed to NJ, people aren’t going to be willing to open the vault for a non generational talent
 

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The consensus number 1 overall is a non-generational center, a position the Devils are set at for the next decade. The Devils score a lot of goals as is, and have a top five prospect pipeline.

I could see them trading the pick for Spencer Knight and something else or Askarov, depending on what the political situation with Russia (NOT INVITING COMMENTS ABOUT UKRAINE) is by draft day. I imagine this would work for the Panthers/Predators.

If not a goalie, I could see the Fitzgerald agreeing to trade the pick for Brady Tkachuk or Matthew Tkachuk (if a long term deal were worked out ahead of time).

As it stands now, it’s a distinct possibility the Devils end up with the pick. Interested to see what fans of other teams would be willing to trade for it.
It’s actually a very low probably that they end up with the pick to be fair. Between 5-10% chance
 
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John Pedro

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No way I'd trade a first overall pick for a goalie (unless we're talking about Shest, Sorokin aka young studs), let alone a goalie prospect. Goalies are voodoo. Schneider trade didn't help us, but it should've taught a lesson.

now, if we talking 1st ov for a young NHL dman with top pairing potential, then, sure.
 

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the NHL ruled that a franchise can win the lottery no more than twice in a five-year span.
That isn't exclusive to the first overall pick: It means a team can't advance by reason of lottery win more than twice in a five-year span.
So Buffalo and Devils can't win
That rule doesn't apply to the past. It applies moving forward. So yes the Devils and Buffalo can still get lottery picks. Previous years don't count.
 

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At first overall you take BPA. Sometimes they end up not being the best player from their draft, but yoy would be foolish to pass on first overall talent.

Pretty much this and needing a goalie doesn't mean that you overpay for one either.

I think almost every NHL coach would keep the #1 pick rather than trade for the top 1,2 or 3 goalie prospect in the world right now for 2 reasons.
1. Most GMs don't have the balls to deviate from the norm

2. Goalies are the hardest prospects to project out, Wright is going to be a very good player and if the Devils draft him they will have 3 excellent centers, they can work out the specifics down the road.
 

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the NHL ruled that a franchise can win the lottery no more than twice in a five-year span.
That isn't exclusive to the first overall pick: It means a team can't advance by reason of lottery win more than twice in a five-year span.
So Buffalo and Devils can't win
"Teams cannot win the lottery more than twice in a five-year period. Wins in the lottery prior to 2022 will not be counted toward this total."

 
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The consensus number 1 overall is a non-generational center, a position the Devils are set at for the next decade. The Devils score a lot of goals as is, and have a top five prospect pipeline.

I could see them trading the pick for Spencer Knight and something else or Askarov, depending on what the political situation with Russia (NOT INVITING COMMENTS ABOUT UKRAINE) is by draft day. I imagine this would work for the Panthers/Predators.

If not a goalie, I could see the Fitzgerald agreeing to trade the pick for Brady Tkachuk or Matthew Tkachuk (if a long term deal were worked out ahead of time).

As it stands now, it’s a distinct possibility the Devils end up with the pick. Interested to see what fans of other teams would be willing to trade for it.
Florida already has our non-generational center on an ELC. Not a fit on our end.
There'd probably be a fit with another team in the top 10 looking to swap picks though.

But even if not, there's nothing wrong with taking Wright if the Devils view him as BPA. Hughes would be an elite player if he was moved to the wing, and this kind of move could cement their forward core for the rest of the decade.

Hughes - Hischier - Sharangovich
Holtz - Mercer - Bratt
xxxx - Wright - xxxx
 

John Pedro

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Florida already has our non-generational center on an ELC. Not a fit on our end.
There'd probably be a fit with another team in the top 10 looking to swap picks though.

But even if not, there's nothing wrong with taking Wright if the Devils view him as BPA. Hughes would be an elite player if he was moved to the wing, and this kind of move could cement their forward core for the rest of the decade.

Hughes - Hischier - Sharangovich
Holtz - Mercer - Bratt
xxxx - Wright - xxxx

Hughes doesn't need to be moved to the wing to be elite, in fact he doesn't play well on the wing. If anything, Wright could be slot on his wing and take faceoffs if Jack doesn't improve at them. Wouldn't hurt to have a kid with Wright's release and defensive game on Jack's wing
 

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Trade down to wherever you see a good player you'd like. Nemec? Jiricek? Slafkovsky?

Trade the pick for a nice spread of assets.

Move it 1 for 1 for a current young NHLer.

I'd just take Wright, you can never have too many centers and one can move to wing. Flexibility and match ups are great.
 

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You don't just trade players like Wright. To me he is on Jack's level. The only time you do is if you get an elite young goalie or #1D on a good contract.

Two years from now
Sharangovich-hughes-Mercer
Bratt-Nico-Gritsyuk
Zacha -Wright-Holtz
Wood?/McLeod?Bastian
You literally have a scoring threat every time you are on the ice.

Stillman/Thompson/Foote/Boqvist/Zetterlund etc.

Hamilton
Hughes
Smith
Severson?
Muk
Graves?
Seigs
walsh
Okhotyuk
Misyul
Bahl

Blackwood/Daws

that is without any UFA signings
 
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Nico Hischier

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Just pick who the scouts think are the best. If we did that in 2017 we would have drafted makar who our scouts thought was the best but we won the lottery so it was between Nico and Nolan. I swear to god if we trade first overall for Spencer knight I will lose my mind
 
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The consensus number 1 overall is a non-generational center, a position the Devils are set at for the next decade. The Devils score a lot of goals as is, and have a top five prospect pipeline.

I could see them trading the pick for Spencer Knight and something else or Askarov, depending on what the political situation with Russia (NOT INVITING COMMENTS ABOUT UKRAINE) is by draft day. I imagine this would work for the Panthers/Predators.

If not a goalie, I could see the Fitzgerald agreeing to trade the pick for Brady Tkachuk or Matthew Tkachuk (if a long term deal were worked out ahead of time).

As it stands now, it’s a distinct possibility the Devils end up with the pick. Interested to see what fans of other teams would be willing to trade for it.

What are your thoughts on this package from Nashville?

Askarov
2022 1st
Farrance
Afanasyev/Evangelista
 

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You don't just trade players like Wright. To me he is on Jack's level. The only time you do is if you get an elite young goalie or #1D on a good contract.

After thinking about it overnight, I think I would just take Wright unless somebody absolutely floored me with an offer. Things might get awkward when he's RFA and he might want a move, but those three cheap years would be tough to pass up.

We'll see how the lottery odds get set, but there'll probably be a 90% chance of the Devils not winning so it might be better to wait five weeks assuming the lottery is done right after the regular season concludes. Although with the Olympic break, the NHL regular season will overlap a bit with the U18s. I wonder if five Canadian teams end up in the lottery that Sportsnet will push it for a Saturday drawing again.
 

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What are your thoughts on this package from Nashville?

Askarov
2022 1st
Farrance
Afanasyev/Evangelista

Probably not quite enough for me to hypothetically move out of the top pick. Farrance is decent but we'll have a crowded left side of the blue line soon enough with Luke Hughes and then some combination of Mukhamadullin/Bahl/Okhotiuk vying for a spot. If we were getting a decent RD, that'd probably fit our needs more. The 2022 1st is probably a little too far down (currently 19th).
 
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Soundgarden

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Probably not quite enough for me to hypothetically move out of the top pick. Farrance is decent but we'll have a crowded left side of the blue line soon enough with Luke Hughes and then some combination of Mukhamadullin/Bahl/Okhotiuk vying for a spot. If we were getting a decent RD, that'd probably fit our needs more. The 2022 1st is probably a little too far down (currently 19th).

I went with Farrance because he's probably considered our best defense prospect, but if you guys need a RHD we do have Prokop.
 

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1OA for a goalie is a really bad idea, especially when the top goalies in any given draft tend to get picked in the 10-40 spots.
Devils may as well trade the pick to move down in the draft, pick up a goalie prospect from another team.
Like if the Canucks were 8OA you could trade them 1OA for Dipietro + 8OA and then use the 8OA to select the top goalie in the draft. (JUST AN ILLUSTRATION - NOT A PROPOSAL)
This draft doesn't have many marquee goalies so you could probably move down further, get a better ransom from a lower team, and still get your top goalie prospect.

Remember guys like Demko and Oettinger were late 1st rounders or early 2nd rounders and those guys take a few years to make an impact.
 
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hidek91

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the NHL ruled that a franchise can win the lottery no more than twice in a five-year span.
That isn't exclusive to the first overall pick: It means a team can't advance by reason of lottery win more than twice in a five-year span.
So Buffalo and Devils can't win

Wins before 2022 don't count to that total though.
 

hidek91

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I think that if we win the lottery, we should just make the pick, unless there's something mind blowing being offered. If not, we can use Hischier, Hughes and Wright as top 3 centers and then potentially move one of them in a trade a'la Jones-Johansen.

Drop in talent from 1st OA level to 3rd-6th OA level is usually so high that there would have to be a lot attached to the lower pick to even consider it (unrealistic) and given volatility of goalies you don't solve this issue by trading 1st OA pick, that would be an insanity.
 
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