Prospect Info: 2021 NHL Draft Thread

[BfantZ]

Nvm actually - Seguin had all sorts of controversy around him when Nill traded for him. I'd bet he won't draft this guy though no matter what unless it's to dangle him as trade bait

No he definitely won’t . I don’t even know if he’s that good a pick tbh.

 

[Ghost of Kyiv]

From the above Mailloux article...

Multiple other teams rank Mailloux as a first-round talent, ranging anywhere from as high as top 15 to 33rd to 72nd on a random sampling of team draft boards

His draft minus 1 season was spent in a junior b league and this season he played only 19 games in the third tier Swedish league. But still, an NHL team has the cojones to rank him in the top 15 of the draft? July 23-24th is going to get weird.

As far as the dudes character, he certainly seems like a scumbag based on that one action. But one action shouldn't usually define a man. All the same, any team that puts him on the DND list seems justified.

 

[BfantZ]

From the above Mailloux article...


His draft minus 1 season was spent in a junior b league and this season he played only 19 games in the third tier Swedish league. But still, an NHL team has the cojones to rank him in the top 15 of the draft? July 23-24th is going to get weird.

As far as the dudes character, he certainly seems like a scumbag based on that one action. But one action shouldn't usually define a man. All the same, any team that puts him on the DND list seems justified.

Ya , 18 year olds make mistakes . I wouldn’t deem him a scumbag myself just yet . That was a pretty normal thing to happen when I was that age tbh . But nhl teams in today’s world , kinda have to stay clear of anything controversial lol

 

[Ghost of Kyiv]

Ya , 18 year olds make mistakes . I wouldn’t deem him a scumbag myself just yet . That was a pretty normal thing to happen when I was that age tbh . But nhl teams in today’s world , kinda have to stay clear of anything controversial lol

It was a shitty thing to do, you have to hope he'll behave in a more decent manner in the future. From a team building perspective, tough to build a winner in general, even harder if you restrict yourself to choir boys. I get that.

 

[serp]

It was a shitty thing to do, you have to hope he'll behave in a more decent manner in the future. From a team building perspective, tough to build a winner in general, even harder if you restrict yourself to choir boys.

It's not really about choir boys but smart boys. Posting shit on social media in general is something anyone with half a brain should just avoid. You gotta be able to trust your potential players to not cause a distraction by doing dumb shit

Pretty sure there aren't just choir boys on the Stars we just don't hear about their adventures .

 

[Zrhutch]

It's not really about choir boys but smart boys. Posting shit on social media in general is something anyone with half a brain should just avoid. You gotta be able to trust your potential players to not cause a distraction by doing dumb shit

Pretty sure there aren't just choir boys on the Stars we just don't hear about their adventures .

I can confirm you’re right. For the most part.

 

[Satan]

So.... we gonna c-word this Logan guy?

 

[serp]

Idk the draft is so wierd and there's so little concensus that likely means people just stay away from anyone with any kind of off-ice red flags .

Even worse than usual to make headline with something like that.

 

[BfantZ]

It was a shitty thing to do, you have to hope he'll behave in a more decent manner in the future. From a team building perspective, tough to build a winner in general, even harder if you restrict yourself to choir boys. I get that.

No doubt .

 

[Zapp]

So.... we gonna c-word this Logan guy?

man gets banned for saying Combo Breaker and this is how he has to communicate now

 

[WhoahNow]

Im fully on board the Stankoven train. Probably one of the most exciting offensive talents in the draft

 

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Im fully on board the Stankoven train. Probably one of the most exciting offensive talents in the draft

I'm just on board for the name. I don't need to know anything else about him.

 

[WhoahNow]

I'm just on board for the name. I don't need to know anything else about him.

 

[Zapp]

I’ve shifted back towards Johnson and Lucius for our first rounder. If either of those names really are available to us you absolutely pull the trigger on one. If they aren’t is where it gets muddy for me.

1. Kent Johnson
2. Chaz Lucius
3. Fyodor Svechkov
4. Jesper Wallstedt


2nd round is Kisakov or death

 

[starsfan86]

Lots of good options. Really hope we don’t draft Raty. Have a bad feeling about him

 

[Zrhutch]

Saw a mock that had us getting Robidas at 78

 

[BfantZ]

I’ve shifted back towards Johnson and Lucius for our first rounder. If either of those names really are available to us you absolutely pull the trigger on one. If they aren’t is where it gets muddy for me.

1. Kent Johnson
2. Chaz Lucius
3. Fedor Svechkov
4. Jesper Wallstedt


2nd round is Kisakov or death

I don’t get the love svechkovs getting , he reminds me of Nichushkin so much .

 

[starsfan86]

I don’t get the love svechkovs getting , he reminds me of Nichushkin so much .

Reminds me of faksa

 

[Zapp]

The Nuke comparison is understandable, just imagine if Val had elite hockey IQ.

The Faksa comparison is

 

[starsfan86]

The Nuke comparison is understandable, just imagine if Val had elite hockey IQ.

The Faksa comparison is

Don’t know much about him. Just know that he’s a good two way forward and may not produce a ton of offense in the nhl. I’d rather take a chance in Chibrikov but who knows in this draft.

 

[Captain Awesome]

Im fully on board the Stankoven train. Probably one of the most exciting offensive talents in the draft

Sounds like he comes from a line of Canadians who specialized in Dutch ovens.

BTW, since there is a lot of Russian prospect talk, I went over to the prospect board and saw that Caser had posted his annual list of Russian prospects, he lives in Russia, which probably means he's seen more of those guys like than most amateur scouts this year: 2021 NHL Draft: Russian Prospects

 

[Ghost of Kyiv]

The best use case for Svechkov is Phillip Danualt.

I feel like scout's need to do a better job describing Svechkov's offensive skill set and how he creates offense. Specifically, he's got good acceleration, he's an excellent puck carrier and a very smart puck distributor who draws defenders and always hits the open man. Now, combine that with his defensive skill set where he's one of the draft's top puck retrievers and pass interceptors. What do you have? A guy who creates a high amount of even strength offense on the counter attack as well as converts defense into odd man rushes and prime scoring chances as good as anyone in this class. Back to the Danault comparison, that's a big reason why the Tatar, Danault, Gallagher combo was the best statistical line in hockey over the past 3 year despite being centered by a defense first player and flanked by a couple of undersized non-elite line wingers. *Edit: Marchard Bergeron Pastrnak has the same characteristics if you want to level up a bit, though I hate comparing guys to elite players as it's unfair and rarely works out*

Now, does Svechkov shoot the puck well? No. Is he highly creative? Not particularly. Will he ever be good on the powerplay? Very unlikely. But, does he have a great chance of being excellent at even strength? Hell yeah. I think he's might score you 45 points a year (almost entirely at 5v5), kill penalties, drive zone possession and have a great goal differential. I think that's a winning hockey player, and well worth the pick should Dallas decide to go that direction.

That's my bull case for him anyways. I like him a lot more than the typical "high floor" guy.

 

[Zapp]

The best use case for Svechkov is Phillip Danualt.

I feel like scout's need to do a better job describing Svechkov's offensive skill set and how he creates offense. Specifically, he's got good acceleration, he's an excellent puck carrier and a very smart puck distributor who draws defenders and always hits the open man. Now, combine that with his defensive skill set where he's one of the draft's top puck retrievers and pass interceptors. What do you have? A guy who creates a high amount of even strength offense on the counter attack as well as converts defense into odd man rushes and prime scoring chances as good as anyone in this class. Back to the Danault comparison, that's a big reason why the Tatar, Danault, Gallagher combo was the best statistical line in hockey over the past 3 year despite being centered by a defense first player and flanked by a couple of undersized non-elite line wingers. *Edit: Marchard Bergeron Pastrnak has the same characteristics if you want to level up a bit, though I hate comparing guys to elite players as it's unfair and rarely works out*

Now, does Svechkov shoot the puck well? No. Is he highly creative? Not particularly. Will he ever be good on the powerplay? Very unlikely. But, does he have a great chance of being excellent at even strength? Hell yeah. I think he's might score you 45 points a year (almost entirely at 5v5), kill penalties, drive zone possession and have a great goal differential. I think that's a winning hockey player, and well worth the pick should Dallas decide to go that direction.

That's my bull case for him anyways. I like him a lot more than the typical "high floor" guy.

Nice write-up

I disagree with Caser’s point that he can’t translate to the wing as well. The ability to win draws is coveted in this league nowadays with how easy it is to get kicked out of the dot.

I don’t believe in that he needs to be more physical to succeed as a C in the pros, and even if you have to move him to the wing, he can win draws for you when someone gets tossed.

He has all the tools and the IQ to be a top 9 player.


I’ve posted about all 3 Russians before and I don’t mind any of them as picks but I have my opinions on who will work out for us

Kisakov and Svechkov are the safe plays

Chibrikov is good but he has the highest potential to bust out of 3.

 

[BfantZ]

The best use case for Svechkov is Phillip Danualt.

I feel like scout's need to do a better job describing Svechkov's offensive skill set and how he creates offense. Specifically, he's got good acceleration, he's an excellent puck carrier and a very smart puck distributor who draws defenders and always hits the open man. Now, combine that with his defensive skill set where he's one of the draft's top puck retrievers and pass interceptors. What do you have? A guy who creates a high amount of even strength offense on the counter attack as well as converts defense into odd man rushes and prime scoring chances as good as anyone in this class. Back to the Danault comparison, that's a big reason why the Tatar, Danault, Gallagher combo was the best statistical line in hockey over the past 3 year despite being centered by a defense first player and flanked by a couple of undersized non-elite line wingers. *Edit: Marchard Bergeron Pastrnak has the same characteristics if you want to level up a bit, though I hate comparing guys to elite players as it's unfair and rarely works out*

Now, does Svechkov shoot the puck well? No. Is he highly creative? Not particularly. Will he ever be good on the powerplay? Very unlikely. But, does he have a great chance of being excellent at even strength? Hell yeah. I think he's might score you 45 points a year (almost entirely at 5v5), kill penalties, drive zone possession and have a great goal differential. I think that's a winning hockey player, and well worth the pick should Dallas decide to go that direction.

That's my bull case for him anyways. I like him a lot more than the typical "high floor" guy.

No more guys who can’t shoot please .

 

[Captain Awesome]

I think he's might score you 45 points a year (almost entirely at 5v5), kill penalties, drive zone possession and have a great goal differential. I think that's a winning hockey player, and well worth the pick should Dallas decide to go that direction.

That's my bull case for him anyways. I like him a lot more than the typical "high floor" guy.

Is he expected to be a 1st rounder? I'd rather target someone with higher upside for a 1st rounder, sounds reasonable for someone in the 2nd, though.