2021 NHL Draft Thread

[DFAC]

Ran the simulator for fun and this is what I got the first time

 

[Canuck Luck]

Ran the simulator for fun and this is what I got the first time

If we could nab Clarke at 7 that would be a steal. Of the consensus top 8 my list goes: Berniers/Hughes/Clarke/Power/Guenther/Eklund/Johnson/Edvinsson

 

[Canuck Luck]

the weird thing on the Hughes ranking was that when he was playing he was ranked in the 7-10 range. He gets injured. Doesn't play for the longest time and he's all of a sudden a top 4 pick, like wtf is going on here boys.

Just like players can play their way up the draft list, players can play themselves down too. Its also possible some scouts didnt get to watch much of him and ended up watching tape later and re-evaluated where they rank him

 

[Knight53]

Hoglander - Pettersson - Podkolzin
Eklund - Miller - Boeser
Pearson - Horvat - Lind

or

Miller - Pettersson - Boeser
Hoglander - Horvat - Podkolzin
Pearson - Beniers - Lind

or

Hughes - Clarke
Rathbone - Schmidt

 

[The Iron Goalie]

Something that hasn't really received much attention during 2021 prospect discussion, but is actually very important imo is the fact that Luke Hughes was born just 6 days before the age cutoff for this draft (Luke Bday falls on Sept 9th 2003...the cutoff is Sept 15th 2003). This makes him one of the youngest draft elidable prospects this year, and almost a full year younger than the likes of Power/Beniers/Johnson/Eklund (who are some of the oldest). Will be interesting to see him play with Power at Michigan next season (provided Power doesn't go pro).

 

[StreetHawk]

Something that hasn't really received much attention during 2021 prospect discussion, but is actually very important imo is the fact that Luke Hughes was born just 6 days before the age cutoff for this draft (Luke Bday falls on Sept 9th 2003...the cutoff is Sept 15th 2003). This makes him one of the youngest draft elidable prospects this year, and almost a full year younger than the likes of Power/Beniers/Johnson/Eklund (who are some of the oldest). Will be interesting to see him play with Power at Michigan next season (provided Power doesn't go pro).

I don’t see any 2021 draft pick playing in the nhl next season.

think all of the Michigan wolverines return to school.

Cam York signed with Philly so there is a big opening on the Michigan D next season.

 

[Canuck Luck]

Something that hasn't really received much attention during 2021 prospect discussion, but is actually very important imo is the fact that Luke Hughes was born just 6 days before the age cutoff for this draft (Luke Bday falls on Sept 9th 2003...the cutoff is Sept 15th 2003). This makes him one of the youngest draft elidable prospects this year, and almost a full year younger than the likes of Power/Beniers/Johnson/Eklund (who are some of the oldest). Will be interesting to see him play with Power at Michigan next season (provided Power doesn't go pro).

Literally looks like a carbon copy of Quinn in that video. Pros and cons alike

 

[Get North]

Stay away from Edvinsson, looked really bad against Latvia and USA. Big, skates well, but he doesn't scare teams when he has the puck on his stick. Rather take Hughes, Power and Clarke. Also there’s better value in the 2nd-4th round.

Stromgren, Rosen, Robertsson are draftable, they have some NHL calibre attributes and skating ability.

Edvinsson had a good game against Canada even though Sweden lost. You can tell his strength is defensive IQ, his size and skating makes him impossible for his peers to get around him. He's not creative or much of a playmaker, but Edvinsson could play beside Nate Schmidt next season. It's like watching a more mobile, taller, stronger Edler.

I need to see as many games of Edvinsson. He plays against Finland for bronze.

 

[VanJack]

I don’t see any 2021 draft pick playing in the nhl next season.

think all of the Michigan wolverines return to school.

Cam York signed with Philly so there is a big opening on the Michigan D next season.

Under normal circumstances, I'd agree with you. But if the Canucks draft a d-man high in the first round, he'll be given every shot in training camp as long as he has a pulse. The blueline next year could be that bad.

But then you think back to Juolevi in 2016. Watching Sergachev, McAvoy, and Chychrun lighting it up these days, is a reminder that when it comes to drafting d-men--other than Hughes--the Canucks scouting has been as barren as the landscape in Death Valley.

 

[BWJM]

I think we have a solid chance of getting one of Clarke, Beniers, Hughes, Guenther.

Getting hyped for a good draft pick is literally the only fun thing about being bad.

 

[Fatass]

I think we have a solid chance of getting one of Clarke, Beniers, Hughes, Guenther.

Getting hyped for a good draft pick is literally the only fun thing about being bad.

Not Guenther.

 

[canuckking1]

Not Guenther.

Agreed. Unless they have elite-level potential I don't like taking wingers. Guenther's ceiling is basically what Boeser is now.

 

[Fatass]

Under normal circumstances, I'd agree with you. But if the Canucks draft a d-man high in the first round, he'll be given every shot in training camp as long as he has a pulse. The blueline next year could be that bad.

But then you think back to Juolevi in 2016. Watching Sergachev, McAvoy, and Chychrun lighting it up these days, is a reminder that when it comes to drafting d-men--other than Hughes--the Canucks scouting has been as barren as the landscape in Death Valley.

BEnning overruled scouts to select oJ, didn’t he? AND he traded away several second a and third round picks that could have been used to draft d.

 

[BWJM]

Not Guenther.

Fair enough. Clarke is the guy I want the most.

 

[Gstank]

BEnning overruled scouts to select oJ, didn’t he? AND he traded away several second a and third round picks that could have been used to draft d.

Now you're just making stuff up to try and prove a point. Several is 5 or more btw

Edit apparently google says several is 2 or more. I've been lied to as a kid

 

[Catamarca Livin]

That is pretty big. it is impressive that he was going up the rankings before his injury. I am worried that he plays the same style as Quinn but a bigger guy who plays a similar style would be good. Others would appear to have more of an opening positionally wise. All forwards and right dman would have a spot in a year. The left d side is had a lot of youth plus Schmidt to choose from. I guess it depends who is in charge.

 

[timw33]

Now you're just making stuff up to try and prove a point. Several is 5 or more btw

2nd for Baertschi
2nd for Vey
2nd for Sutter
2nd for Toffoli
3rd for Dorset
3rd for Pedan
3rd in Kesler deal

So by your definition, several.

 

[Gstank]

2nd for Baertschi
2nd for Vey
2nd for Sutter
2nd for Toffoli
3rd for Dorset
3rd for Pedan
3rd in Kesler deal

So by your definition, several.

He said "and" but I digress

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Not Guenther.

I agree. I like him but top 10? Just not getting it.
Just watched a shift by shift of Beniers with Michigan. Not sure of his eventual upside, but damn does that guy play hard. Interesting to compare him with Power in the same vid. I know Beniers is going to be good but how good...a few shifts i was just watching Power and you can see why many would gamble on that upside. 1 crossover and 3 strides and he's gone from his blue to the high slot in the o-zone...then he fumbles the puck away. Looks like a kid who's hands haven't kept with his size and skating ability. Shit year to tank...watch us win the lottery this time. It would be the most Canuck thing to have the #1 pick this year for the first time ever.

 

[Fatass]

Now you're just making stuff up to try and prove a point. Several is 5 or more btw

Edit apparently google says several is 2 or more. I've been lied to as a kid

We went through along this multiple times. Benning apparently overruled scouts to pick OJ. The next year he wanted Glass, but this time (after the OJ mistake) Linden stepped in and supported the scouts who wanted Petey. Go back and read June 2020. Lots there on this.
THis year Benning is at the U18. We will for certain take a guy who shows well there, regardless of what the scouts, who watch these guys for years, prefer. He did exactly this after watching OJ at the
WJC’s

 

[4Twenty]

Yup Canucks luck is winning the lottery for the really weak draft class and finishing in the 14-20 range next year when the top 10 looks absolutely loaded.

 

[Canuck Luck]

Not Guenther.

Why not?

Agreed. Unless they have elite-level potential I don't like taking wingers. Guenther's ceiling is basically what Boeser is now.

Boeser goes top 12 in a redraft of one of the greatest drafts of all time. Best or 2nd best draft class in the last 20 years. To think a boeser in this draft class isn’t worth a top 5-10 pick is insane.

I agree. I like him but top 10? Just not getting it.

what’s not to get?

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Why not?


Boeser goes top 12 in a redraft of one of the greatest drafts of all time. Best or 2nd best draft class in the last 20 years. To think a boeser in this draft class isn’t worth a top 5-10 pick is insane.



what’s not to get?

The upside. Could be way wrong here for sure. Lots of good traits but nothing real special. I'm no scout- if he improves everything he does well- he could be the best player in this draft. Then again you could say the same thing for a bunch of guys. What makes him a better pick than say.. Mason Mctavish? I would definitely pick him over a guy like Pinelli...but i'm hearing some wouldn't.

 

[Canuck Luck]

The upside. Could be way wrong here for sure. Lots of good traits but nothing real special. I'm no scout- if he improves everything he does well- he could be the best player in this draft. Then again you could say the same thing for a bunch of guys. What makes him a better pick than say.. Mason Mctavish? I would definitely pick him over a guy like Pinelli...but i'm hearing some wouldn't.

dude was 1g 1A per game this year in the ahl. Ya small sample size but from what I’ve seen of him he looks like a solid iq, good skating winger who can score and pass. I think he should be going 5 at the highest 8 at worst. That’s right around where we are picking.

 

[tradervik]

My only prediction is that a player many draftists don't like will turn out to be the best player.