Draft 2021 NHL Draft and Undrafted Free Agent Thread

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I can't say I've heard anyone that negative about Raty --- not even close. But there is quite a bit of division when it comes to him as a prospect.

But already you're seeing all these guides who are quoting scouts and you see guys like Svechkov ranking from 6 to 54, you've got Raty anywhere from the teens to someone saying they wouldn't consider him until the 6th or 7th round.

Granted there are going to be outliers, and some of those makes for interesting quotes. But it does give you a sense of how this draft is all over the map. It could very well feel reminiscent of a draft from the early 1990s.

f*** that if true, lolol.
 
Anybody have an interview or insight or scouting report on Räty's commitment? Does he have the heart, the will to want to be an NHL hockey player?

I guess that's super difficult to hear from him/ get any info on ... but still.
 
A quote from one scout about Cossa: "So both goalies are top 15 picks, plus the usual suspects that will be on all the teams lists. After that you get into guys like L’Heureux, Rosen, Olausson, Boucher, Poltapov, Stromgren, Rosen…. it’s a shit show after the top 12 guys and the two goalies.

Looks like it's a 14-player draft lol.
 
A quote from one scout about Cossa: "So both goalies are top 15 picks, plus the usual suspects that will be on all the teams lists. After that you get into guys like L’Heureux, Rosen, Olausson, Boucher, Poltapov, Stromgren, Rosen…. it’s a shit show after the top 12 guys and the two goalies.

Looks like it's a 14-player draft lol.

It's like a 2.5 player draft.
 
FWIW, their report really narrowed me in on Svechkov, even more then I already was. He sounds like the perfect 3C for a long-term contender
 
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Easily 3.5 haha

I seen him mention somewhere at the start of the guide that multiple scouts had told him that they considered this draft to have less than 15 first round talents.

Wouldn't surprise me if that turned out true.

Really this is the one year where they can take a goalie at 15 and I wouldn't be pissed. Based off of what I read in the BB, of the guys we've discussed here Svechkov intrigues me the most, though with the way they drafted last year and Bobrov getting the boot I don't think they're going to go euro with pick #1.
 
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18, yup.

Heimosalmi at 18 was their cutoff.

Actually my favorite part of Black Book is finding out about guys I didn't know jack shit about and investigating them as potential late round picks. Like Nikita Buruyanov could be interesting - I want to Google him and find out more. I wouldn't have even known his name otherwise.
 
Wouldn't surprise me if that turned out true.

Really this is the one year where they can take a goalie at 15 and I wouldn't be pissed. Based off of what I read in the BB, of the guys we've discussed here Svechkov intrigues me the most, though with the way they drafted last year and Bobrov getting the boot I don't think they're going to go euro with pick #1.

I still don't really want a goalie; though if Wallstedt is there, I'm not going to complain if we take him.

If anything, these rankings being all over the place have made me fine with taking a giant swing at 15, if the team leans that way. Chibrikov is probably the guy that I would want the most, and Svechkov or Pinelli make a lot of sense; but if there aren't any fallers at 15OA and we took Mailloux, or some other monstrous swing like that; I wouldn't bitch about it.

"Safe" loses a lot of meaning when nobody can agree on who exactly deserves that label.
 
Actually my favorite part of Black Book is finding out about guys I didn't know jack shit about and investigating them as potential late round picks. Like Nikita Buruyanov could be interesting - I want to Google him and find out more. I wouldn't have even known his name otherwise.

Each year, I normally get familiar with guys that Mackenzie has ranked in a range where we may be able to grab them. The ones that I like, I tend to check up on in the Black Book too, along with what guys they have in our range (e.g. today is the first time I've looked into Tyler Boucher at all).

The result is that I know a surprising amount about guys like Poltapov, Lukashevich, and Kapanen, among others; and almost nothing at all about the top 5 or 6 guys haha. Like seriously, I'd have to check to see what handedness Owen Power is haha.
 
Each year, I normally get familiar with guys that Mackenzie has ranked in a range where we may be able to grab them. The ones that I like, I tend to check up on in the Black Book too, along with what guys they have in our range (e.g. today is the first time I've looked into Tyler Boucher at all).

The result is that I know a surprising amount about guys like Poltapov, Lukashevich, and Kapanen, among others; and almost nothing at all about the top 5 or 6 guys haha. Like seriously, I'd have to check to see what handedness Owen Power is haha.

I'm in the same boat - guys we have no chance of drafting I completely ignore.
 
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The pro scout quotes on Raty were damning. Basically nothing positive to say, and just said he's only being ranked high due to reputation.

And there must have been like 8 guys in that section alone, that said people's rankings are shit this year. There is going to be so much variance once the draft gets out of the top10!
 
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I could see Drury getting us a 2nd.
Fingers crossed.

It would be pretty sweet if we are able to pull what Calgary did last draft and move back a couple times in the first. Maybe grab a couple seconds or a second and a third, or something.

With team's lists being all over the place, perhaps there will be teams that want to pull the trigger on those kinds of moves when they see a guy they have ranked high sliding down the board.
 
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Reading through the Black book now, will post anybody i find intriguing. First guy's Nolan Allan.

They have him at 50, with ratings of 7 (very good, relative to the rest of the class) in Hockey Sense, Compete, Skating, & Misc., albeit with Skill only at 5 (avg. relative to the rest of the class). Most other scouting services have him in the 50-80 range, meaning he'd likely be available w/ one of our 3rds.

Writeup suggests a good complimentary dman, not a line-driver, but good defensively & in transition. He's 6'2, 194, but on the younger side of the draft class with an April '03 birthday.
 
Anybody have an interview or insight or scouting report on Räty's commitment? Does he have the heart, the will to want to be an NHL hockey player?

I guess that's super difficult to hear from him/ get any info on ... but still.

Honestly, I think scouts and organizations are asking the same questions...

We'll see, I still think he goes in the first. But if those rumors are true, he'll surely drop. How far, though, is to be determined.
 
A quote from one scout about Cossa: "So both goalies are top 15 picks, plus the usual suspects that will be on all the teams lists. After that you get into guys like L’Heureux, Rosen, Olausson, Boucher, Poltapov, Stromgren, Rosen…. it’s a shit show after the top 12 guys and the two goalies.

Looks like it's a 14-player draft lol.

Hence weak, lolol
 
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