Draft 2021 NHL Draft and Undrafted Free Agent Thread

[Joey Bones]

Just read a scouting report that compares Chibrikov to Marchand.

Skill-wise I can see it, agitation-wise probably not. Do you have a link to this scouting report? Would love to read it.

 

[Joey Bones]

In the short term IMO Shesterkin needs some internal competition to push him and the Rangers also can use the insurance policy that if Shesterkin gets hurt someone is there who can for real fill in and not have a season fall apart.

IMO having two top notch goalies is not a bad thing. Look at the Islanders—Sorokin backing up Varlamov. There are very very few easy games against the Islanders by any team. You know that every game against them you’re going to face a quality goalie.

As well Shesterkin has pulled a groin twice already for us—before the play in against Carolina and this past season again. I wonder if he’s fragile. We’ve also seen both him and Alex bowled over a number of times. Alex was pulled out of one game for several minutes last year for concussion protocol. Neither Igor or Alex are big guys. Wallstedt at 18 years old is 6’3 and 215 lbs. Wallstedt played on Nils Lundkvist’s Lulea SHL team last and played really well. He’s already a for real major leaguer in Sweden’s best league. He could easily play in the AHL next year and probably do very well there too. He’s not far away.

Perfect post, couldn't agree more. Great job!!

 

[Joey Bones]

That's honestly sooooo dumb, we all know analytics started to change once the 2013 draft came into play and it further expanded after the McDavid draft. It should be set up from 2013-now. People that have to dig up pre-lockout stats to prove a point shouldn't be proving points in 2021...

 

[Joey Bones]

Am I the only one tantalized by Hughes v3? He has the family skating but with size and a more rounded game.

Not nearly as effective as his brothers and seems to have the injury bug early. I'd let someone else fall on that sword, ATM.

 

[Joey Bones]

Quite long, and behind a paywall, but very thorough.

Wheeler: A guide to scouting and evaluating NHL draft prospects (2021 update)

Simple, but could be too simple if that makes sense. I usually am interested in Wheeler's takes, but this seems, meh.

 

[Joey Bones]

I don't think with the quality of this draft there's much of a chance he falls to NYR, but if he does, I'd be game to take him.

The unfortunate thing about Shesty's KHL contract is we only got him over here for a sum total of three and a half RFA protected years.

To add to this, he'll be 26 in December...

 

[eco's bones]

Just my take. I think Igor is a really, really good goalie but at this point in time IMO he’s not Henrik good—more to me like Richter or Van Biesbrouck good. With a good team in front of him he’ll get you into the playoffs.

And to the point of wondering if Igor’s fragile or not. Henrik use to play 70 games a year + playoffs season in season out. That takes a shitload of stamina. Most goalies can’t do that. Igor has never come close to that number of games and he’ll be 26 next year which is another reason why we need a quality backup or someone who shares the starts with him. If we’re going to have his backup play 30 or so games a year he needs to be good. Mediocre or average isn’t going to cut it.

 

[eco's bones]

That's honestly sooooo dumb, we all know analytics started to change once the 2013 draft came into play and it further expanded after the McDavid draft. It should be set up from 2013-now. People that have to dig up pre-lockout stats to prove a point shouldn't be proving points in 2021...

Going his route AK should at the least cut it down to guys who are still playing in the NHL. Just going by two the Rangers drafted we know what happened to them. Blackburn’s career ending injury around the age of 20 was freak and Montoya dealt with a number of groin injuries early on in his career.

 

[broadwayblue]

Skill-wise I can see it, agitation-wise probably not. Do you have a link to this scouting report? Would love to read it.

Scouting Report: Nikita Chibrikov - Smaht Scouting

 

[Joey Bones]

Going his route AK should at the least cut it down to guys who are still playing in the NHL. Just going by two the Rangers drafted we know what happened to them. Blackburn’s career ending injury around the age of 20 was freak and Montoya dealt with a number of groin injuries early on in his career.

And Montoya was still able to carve out a good backup career in the NHL. For someone who had all those issues and still be able to play makes you wonder what could've been.

 

[Joey Bones]

Scouting Report: Nikita Chibrikov - Smaht Scouting

Oh okay, I can see the grit thing. But to compare grit to agitation, as Marchand has, is a stretch. He'll grind and throw the body, but he won't... like... clip players lolol

 

[Fitzy]

The Panthers are going to be pretty happy with Spencer Knight,

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Going his route AK should at the least cut it down to guys who are still playing in the NHL. Just going by two the Rangers drafted we know what happened to them. Blackburn’s career ending injury around the age of 20 was freak and Montoya dealt with a number of groin injuries early on in his career.

Just so we're clear: That's not my Twitter account

 

[huerter]

Drury is gonna be a lot more resourceful than Gorts. The world is now our oyster. All your NHL imports belong to us.

 

[eco's bones]

Just so we're clear: That's not my Twitter account

FWIW I don’t and haven’t ever had a Twitter account and am not in the habit of reading Twitter accounts apart from maybe trade deadline day when I track back and forth between people like McKenzie, Friedman and Lebrun.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

FWIW I don’t and haven’t ever had a Twitter account and am not in the habit of reading Twitter accounts apart from maybe trade deadline day when I track back and forth between people like McKenzie, Friedman and Lebrun.

Yeah, I just quickly shared that tweet to add some context, spark some debate etc as I sumbled upon it a few minutes prior.

 

[RickChartraw]

Scouting Report: Nikita Chibrikov - Smaht Scouting

thanks for posting this. I liked this line "Chibrikov’s forechecking ability is where he really shines in the offensive zone." lot to like in that report besides that one.

 

[Lindberg Cheese]

Oh okay, I can see the grit thing. But to compare grit to agitation, as Marchand has, is a stretch. He'll grind and throw the body, but he won't... like... clip players lolol

Or kiss them like Marchand either

 

[True Blue]

I really have not followed this draft much yet. I wasn't aware there was a goalie that damn special in this draft, and if so, how the hell could he fall so far?

He won't

 

[True Blue]

So are you saying you know more than the LA Kings beat writer?

No, but as we have seen from reading Uncle Larry's columns, at times they tend to work on their own narrative.

 

[True Blue]

Drury is gonna be a lot more resourceful than Gorts. The world is now our oyster. All your NHL imports belong to us.

Surely you have examples to back up this brilliance.

 

[TheBloodyNine]

Said who? The NHL mayor? How, pray tell, does one get elected to such a post?

So why are we trading the pick to LA and for what?

John Hoven is incredibly well connected and respected.

 

[The Crypto Guy]

Just my take. I think Igor is a really, really good goalie but at this point in time IMO he’s not Henrik good—more to me like Richter or Van Biesbrouck good. With a good team in front of him he’ll get you into the playoffs.

And to the point of wondering if Igor’s fragile or not. Henrik use to play 70 games a year + playoffs season in season out. That takes a shitload of stamina. Most goalies can’t do that. Igor has never come close to that number of games and he’ll be 26 next year which is another reason why we need a quality backup or someone who shares the starts with him. If we’re going to have his backup play 30 or so games a year he needs to be good. Mediocre or average isn’t going to cut it.

Well Richter good brought this team a Stanley Cup. So..

 

[Raspewtin]

That's honestly sooooo dumb, we all know analytics started to change once the 2013 draft came into play and it further expanded after the McDavid draft. It should be set up from 2013-now. People that have to dig up pre-lockout stats to prove a point shouldn't be proving points in 2021...

if you do 2013 to now you get exactly 4 goalies and only one of them has had any significant NHL time, Samsonov, who has a career sv% of .908.

you need to use extended sample windows cause goalies might not show up in the league for 6-7 years.

 

[Synergy27]

Anyone have any intel on Minnesota HS player Brody Lamb? Kid has some eye popping numbers. Seems worthy of a late round flier at least.