Draft 2021 NHL Draft and Undrafted Free Agent Thread

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Big fan of the Chibrikov love in the last couple pages. When I made that BPA vs. centre thread a while back, he was the exact kid that I had in mind.

Omitting Wallstedt, if there is one guy that we may be able to grab at 15OA who somehow turns out to be the best player of the draft, my money is on Chibrikov!
 
Big fan of the Chibrikov love in the last couple pages. When I made that BPA vs. centre thread a while back, he was the exact kid that I had in mind.

Omitting Wallstedt, if there is one guy that we may be able to grab at 15OA who somehow turns out to be the best player of the draft, my money is on Chibrikov!

Chibrikov is the kid who gives you nightmares about passing on.

The pure skill level is right there with anyone at the top of this draft. Period.
 
Take him and don't think twice. And laugh all the way to the bank. Best goalie prospect in the last 25 years.

So many posters on the Rangers board here think that using a 1st rounder on a goalie is wasting the pick.

Final 4 teams in this year’s playoffs:

Montreal—Carey Price—first round pick.
Islanders—Semyon Varlamov—first round pick.
Vegas—Marc Andre Fleury—first round pick.
Tampa Bay—Andrei Vasilevskiy—first round pick.

If Wallstedt is still around at 15 he will absolutely be the best player on the board and arguably he is the best goaltending prospect in the last several years. Not taking him would be a terrible decision by the Rangers.
 
So many posters on the Rangers board here think that using a 1st rounder on a goalie is wasting the pick.

Final 4 teams in this year’s playoffs:

Montreal—Carey Price—first round pick.
Islanders—Semyon Varlamov—first round pick.
Vegas—Marc Andre Fleury—first round pick.
Tampa Bay—Andrei Vasilevskiy—first round pick.

If Wallstedt is still around at 15 he will absolutely be the best player on the board and arguably he is the best goaltending prospect in the last several years. Not taking him would be a terrible decision by the Rangers.
At the very least he's a trade asset right?
 
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At the very least he's a trade asset right?

In the short term IMO Shesterkin needs some internal competition to push him and the Rangers also can use the insurance policy that if Shesterkin gets hurt someone is there who can for real fill in and not have a season fall apart.

IMO having two top notch goalies is not a bad thing. Look at the Islanders—Sorokin backing up Varlamov. There are very very few easy games against the Islanders by any team. You know that every game against them you’re going to face a quality goalie.

As well Shesterkin has pulled a groin twice already for us—before the play in against Carolina and this past season again. I wonder if he’s fragile. We’ve also seen both him and Alex bowled over a number of times. Alex was pulled out of one game for several minutes last year for concussion protocol. Neither Igor or Alex are big guys. Wallstedt at 18 years old is 6’3 and 215 lbs. Wallstedt played on Nils Lundkvist’s Lulea SHL team last and played really well. He’s already a for real major leaguer in Sweden’s best league. He could easily play in the AHL next year and probably do very well there too. He’s not far away.
 
So many posters on the Rangers board here think that using a 1st rounder on a goalie is wasting the pick.

Final 4 teams in this year’s playoffs:

Montreal—Carey Price—first round pick.
Islanders—Semyon Varlamov—first round pick.
Vegas—Marc Andre Fleury—first round pick.
Tampa Bay—Andrei Vasilevskiy—first round pick.

If Wallstedt is still around at 15 he will absolutely be the best player on the board and arguably he is the best goaltending prospect in the last several years. Not taking him would be a terrible decision by the Rangers.

 
Am I the only one tantalized by Hughes v3? He has the family skating but with size and a more rounded game.
 
In the short term IMO Shesterkin needs some internal competition to push him and the Rangers also can use the insurance policy that if Shesterkin gets hurt someone is there who can for real fill in and not have a season fall apart.

IMO having two top notch goalies is not a bad thing. Look at the Islanders—Sorokin backing up Varlamov. There are very very few easy games against the Islanders by any team. You know that every game against them you’re going to face a quality goalie.

As well Shesterkin has pulled a groin twice already for us—before the play in against Carolina and this past season again. I wonder if he’s fragile. We’ve also seen both him and Alex bowled over a number of times. Alex was pulled out of one game for several minutes last year for concussion protocol. Neither Igor or Alex are big guys. Wallstedt at 18 years old is 6’3 and 215 lbs. Wallstedt played on Nils Lundkvist’s Lulea SHL team last and played really well. He’s already a for real major leaguer in Sweden’s best league. He could easily play in the AHL next year and probably do very well there too. He’s not far away.

I don't think with the quality of this draft there's much of a chance he falls to NYR, but if he does, I'd be game to take him.

The unfortunate thing about Shesty's KHL contract is we only got him over here for a sum total of three and a half RFA protected years.
 
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Wheeler:

“You have to take their context another step further, too. You have to consider age. It cannot be stressed enough how important age is for me in projecting (which is ultimately what this is all about) a kid’s development curve.

“When the Rangers drafted Brett Berard, the 2020 NHL Draft’s fourth-youngest player, who was a week away from being eligible for the 2021 class, in the fifth round a year ago, they were making a calculated bet on the added runway he had versus, say, Ryder Rolston, who was taken five picks later, and had been developed through a similar path at the national development program, but was nearly a year older. When Berard progressed nicely at Providence and had a strong showing for Team USA at the world juniors, while Rolston’s development flatlined, part of what contributed to those things was that where Berard is today along his timeline is where Rolston was a year ago (not to mention the increased development that I’d bet, anecdotally, happens between 17 and 18 versus 18 and 19).”

so who are the youngest among the potential selections?
 
Also from the Wheeler article, I didn't know Vierling was going through mental health issues in his draft year (though I'd imagine a lot of picks and NHL players do and it's not reported on, it's their own lives). Wasn't he one of like two or three drafted guys who didn't play at all last season? Hope he's doing alright.

Rangers 2020 fifth-round draft pick Evan Vierling didn’t live up to his potential until after he demanded a trade out of Flint where he dealt with some mental health issues and wasn’t happy and landed in Barrie for the second half of his draft year. This year, a move like that gave a player 10 games to get things back on track instead of 30. Carolina Hurricanes pick Seth Jarvis doesn’t go No. 13 a year ago based off the first 24 games (the number of games they played this year) of his draft season.
 
So, the team by team mock draft is making it's rounds and if the Dallas board doesn't take Wallstedt, he's going to fall to us. I know it has nothing to do with reality but I am curious to see what the voting on this board looks like if he's available.
Bumping as a reminder to vote Wallstedt when we get the post later
 
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Bumping as a reminder to vote Wallstedt when we get the post later

I'm not advocating that anyone vote a certain way - I'm just more interested in the psychology of "You absolutely take him if he's there" vs "NEVER take a goalie in the 1st" vs "We NEED centers! Why are we considering taking a goalie?" Personally, I think the chances he drops to 15 in the actual draft are REALLY slim.
 
I'm not advocating that anyone vote a certain way - I'm just more interested in the psychology of "You absolutely take him if he's there" vs "NEVER take a goalie in the 1st" vs "We NEED centers! Why are we considering taking a goalie?" Personally, I think the chances he drops to 15 in the actual draft are REALLY slim.
That’s fine. I’m advocating. There is nothing wrong with taking a goalie in the first if it’s the right level prospect. Just because the previous regime wasted a bunch of picks on goalie doesn’t mean you pass on the best prospect since Vasilevskiy dropping to 15
 
I know he's going to double down on this because his "brand" is on the line, but unfortunately for him it isn't just m In Oort I’llkEichel's camp.

You got people within the organization commentingM on this as well. Which I'm sure really pisses off his Honor, the "Mayor."

LOL
 
Boston is at 21(20). If they want L’Heureux and he’s still on the board at 15 what would it take from them? I don’t think they have a 2021 2nd or 3rd to go along with their first.

Idk, not sure if it makes sense for NYR to do that unless they want to shore up on picks for next season.

I think Boston would just play their chances...
 
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Is that a generally accepted claim? Pronman or whoever recently posted his final rankings didn't even have Wallstedt the top goalie in his class!

Pronman has had some of the most far-off claims in his rankings for years. Don't listen to him, seems to be doing it for clicks. The only rankings that should be listened to are Bob McKenzie's and Sam Cosentino's (they both use their lists from anonymous NHL scouting preferences. Cosentino also adds his own spice from his viewings too).

In some instances, Mike Morreale and Adam Kimelman make mocks for good discussions, too...
 
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Big fan of the Chibrikov love in the last couple pages. When I made that BPA vs. centre thread a while back, he was the exact kid that I had in mind.

Omitting Wallstedt, if there is one guy that we may be able to grab at 15OA who somehow turns out to be the best player of the draft, my money is on Chibrikov!

I am for this, too!!
 
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