Injury Report: 2021 Injury Thread - Part II

[Mackinnonen]

Please Byram add some thiccness for next season

 

[Foppa2118]

Byram shouldn't draw in until next season. Let's call it what it is and let it heal properly: this is a concussion

It really does seem like it. He's been off again on again skating for a while now it seems. If it was another injury, he probably wouldn't skate until he was ready, and then it'd only be a brief time before he came back.

f***ing tired of all these concussions on this team. Byram missing almost his entire rookie year with a concussion is concerning.

 

[henchman21]

Please Byram add some thiccness for next season

I don’t think that is the concern or problem. Byram needs to choose his spots better and simply avoid some contact. The kid was taking hits like he was Gudas…

 

[Foppa2118]

That's Byram's game. He takes lots of hits to make plays, because he always waits until the forechecker is directly on him to pass to his D partner, or the forwards, so he buys them lots of time and space with the puck.

He may have to change that in the NHL, but that's been his game for a while.

 

[Cypher]

So Girard and Dubnyk back by game 1.
Saad a few days later hopefully.
No time table on Byram, Calvert, and O'Connor.
Johnson back late in playoffs.
Francouz done for the year.

 

[Bill Peckerskull]

So Girard and Dubnyk back by game 1.
Saad a few days later hopefully.
No time table on Byram, Calvert, and O'Connor.
Johnson back late in playoffs.
Francouz done for the year.

Yeah, sounds like G and Duuuuuuu for sure should back by Game 1. Will G be "healthy"? Probably not 100%, but no one really is right now.

Saad doesn't sound like he'll be ready till later in the opening round series, or till Round 2.

I don't think EJ, Calvert, or LOC will play again this year. EJ hasn't skated (that I've heard of) since he got hurt. Calvert obviously has some post-concussion thing that he's been dealing with for some time now. He may be done for good. And, LOC had surgery and is out "long-term." That doesn't sound like a guy that will play again this season, but who honestly knows with the Avs and their communication to fans/media with injuries. He could be back in a week for all I know.

Byram is definitely up in the air. I wouldn't count on him in rounds 1 or 2 the way it sounds.

Francouz said in that interview he did that there's a small chance he could return late in the playoffs if his rehab continues to progress like it has.

 

[Nihiliste]

Yeah no one is coming back except G and Saad

 

[Tralfamadore]

Byram isn't physically ready for the NHL playoffs anyway. Imagine him in a 7 game series with Vegas. He'd get slaughtered.

 

[Bill Peckerskull]

So Soda wasn't a "healthy scratch" he legit has a back issue.

 

[Northern Avs Fan]

The Avs have proven they can win games without Toews, Makar, or Girard, but there’s no doubt that having all three of those guys in the lineup at the same time takes this team to a different level.

 

[Tralfamadore]

The Avs have proven they can win games without Toews, Makar, or Girard, but there’s no doubt that having all three of those guys in the lineup at the same time takes this team to a different level.

Having at least one of these three guys on the ice for over 2/3rds of a game is what really defines this team. We need each of them to be 100% for the playoffs. When it comes to matchups against Vegas, getting G away from some of the harder forechecking forwards will be key as well.

 

[SoundwaveIsCharisma]

Having at least one of these three guys on the ice for over 2/3rds of a game is what really defines this team. We need each of them to be 100% for the playoffs. When it comes to matchups against Vegas, getting G away from some of the harder forechecking forwards will be key as well.

The trio of G, Makar and Toews just transitions the puck so well, either by breakout pass or skating it out of the zone. It also completely changes the dynamic of the D unit. MacDonald can do some of that to a lesser degree, as well as Timmins. We just need these guys to stay healthy so the Avs can play that quick turnaround game.

With Graves and Nemeth as well as the AHLers they just get crushed in their own zone since they are so bad at handling the puck as well as making quick decisions that catch the other team off guard.

 

[Perratrooper]

I don’t think that is the concern or problem. Byram needs to choose his spots better and simply avoid some contact. The kid was taking hits like he was Gudas…

I think Byram was playing playoff hockey in his initial debut of games. He was consistently taking hits to make plays and looked awesome doing it, but to keep that up for 4 rounds of playoffs is near impossible let alone an entire regular season. He definitely likes to “take a hit to make a play”, but I hope next year he can draw players in and dish the puck before getting crushed against the boards. The only player I’ve seen take more hits is Jost.

 

[henchman21]

I think Byram was playing playoff hockey in his initial debut of games. He was consistently taking hits to make plays and looked awesome doing it, but to keep that up for 4 rounds of playoffs is near impossible let alone an entire regular season. He definitely likes to “take a hit to make a play”, but I hope next year he can draw players in and dish the puck before getting crushed against the boards. The only player I’ve seen take more hits is Jost.

And the numbers back that up.

In some ways I find it kinda weird that hits taken is a stat people track, but it exists. Jost is at a rate of 8.51 per 60. Byram is at 8.23 per 60. Which are the highest on the team for anybody over 50 minutes. LOC and Calvert are next on the list (unsurprisingly... and unsurprisingly hurt). Nemo 5th. Byram is pretty high league wide too, and most of the guys ahead of him are simply built differently. Hague, Tinordi, Schenn, Muzzin, etc. I understand that part of Byram's game is his agitation and physicality, but this isn't junior hockey anymore and he just needs to choose his spots more appropriately.

 

[Tralfamadore]

And the numbers back that up.

In some ways I find it kinda weird that hits taken is a stat people track, but it exists. Jost is at a rate of 8.51 per 60. Byram is at 8.23 per 60. Which are the highest on the team for anybody over 50 minutes. LOC and Calvert are next on the list (unsurprisingly... and unsurprisingly hurt). Nemo 5th. Byram is pretty high league wide too, and most of the guys ahead of him are simply built differently. Hague, Tinordi, Schenn, Muzzin, etc. I understand that part of Byram's game is his agitation and physicality, but this isn't junior hockey anymore and he just needs to choose his spots more appropriately.

If he wants to play that game he needs to transition into it while he develops physically into his 20s. I'm sure he's learned now the hard way that you can't go straight from junior to the NHL and play that same style at his age and build. He's a phenomenal skater, especially laterally, he's completely capable of creating his own space without taking a hard hit.

 

[henchman21]

If he wants to play that game he needs to transition into it while he develops physically into his 20s. I'm sure he's learned now the hard way now that you can't go straight from junior to the NHL and play that same style at his age and build. He's a phenomenal skater he's completely capable of creating his own space without taking a hard hit.

I think it is a bit of a self acknowledgement thing. Frankly, Byram is never going to have the build to withstand heavy punishment without drastically impacting his game. He might get to 200-205lbs... but that is below average to average size of a defensemen in the NHL. Now he could go the straight bulk up method and maybe get to 215-220+, but that will have a drastic impact on what makes him effective. I'd much rather Byram tones it down a bit and stays with being a good skater that occasionally has some physicality to his game. Than a guy that changes his game to being an Schenn type just to stay physical.

 

[flyfysher]

I think it is a bit of a self acknowledgement thing. Frankly, Byram is never going to have the build to withstand heavy punishment without drastically impacting his game. He might get to 200-205lbs... but that is below average to average size of a defensemen in the NHL. Now he could go the straight bulk up method and maybe get to 215-220+, but that will have a drastic impact on what makes him effective. I'd much rather Byram tones it down a bit and stays with being a good skater that occasionally has some physicality to his game. Than a guy that changes his game to being an Schenn type just to stay physical.

Off topic henchman, are you pulling for the Panthers or the Hurricanes to beat out the Lightning in the POs? Or do you want to see a Lightning Avs match up?

 

[BaconNater]

Hench wants MacDonald vs Tampa: Ultimate show down

 

[henchman21]

Off topic henchman, are you pulling for the Panthers or the Hurricanes to beat out the Lightning in the POs? Or do you want to see a Lightning Avs match up?

Easily want Tampa to advance. I don't mind the Canes at all, but I actually like and cheer for Tampa. Not over the Avs, but if the Avs didn't win the Cup... Tampa would be my 2nd or 3rd option.

Hench wants MacDonald vs Tampa: Ultimate show down

That would cause a black hole to form.

 

[Nihiliste]

If it’s not us, I hope it’s the canes

 

[The Abusement Park]

East has a few teams I wouldn’t mind making a run. Panthers, Lightning, Hurricanes, Caps(in spite of Wilson). The West on the other hand can suck it.

 

[Bill Peckerskull]

 

[Bill Peckerskull]

 

[letsgoavs1921]

Listening to Bednar right now. Mackinnon out tonight. Injury the other night is a different one than the one that caused him to miss the games in LA

 

[Cousin Eddie]

Bednar’s not concerned about Mackinnon. That’s all we need to know. Rest up and be ready for playoffs Dogg, it’s Cale’s time now anyway