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WarriorofTime said:
This is the one that doesn't have the "A" teams right? Just random Select guys?
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Only the Americans don’t have their top guys. Everyone is at full strength unless injuries or in the case of Slovakia a few questionable roster choices. Of course Canada is also not here, but they do also send their strongest team
 
Antiillafire said:
Only the Americans don’t have their top guys. Everyone is at full strength unless injuries or in the case of Slovakia a few questionable roster choices. Of course Canada is also not here, but they do also send their strongest team
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Is Brad Lambert eligible.. He was playing with Finland u 20
 
wetcoast said:
So one guy posts a strictly Finland list then you post some kind of ass bakwards overall list with 3 Slovaks at the top then Wright 5th?

WTF?

and I'm not being disrespectful here just complete bewilderment.
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You must press the button "Irony on".
 
Antiillafire said:
Yes, I’m Slovak and I will say that Russians are still better there, they have the depth we don’t. Although Michkov and Dvorsky are close, we don’t have the Russian depth on defense that you guys do. Still nice that slovaks are getting some recognition now.
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Be careful calng Michkov and Dvorsky close. Let him dominate at least an etire season before you call him cose to a player like Michkov, Bedard.
 
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You guys who think that the draft list is a done deal two years before the actual draft? Go home. Imagine believing Michkov is a top2 guy already without even doubting a second?

Look at Aatu Räty, even if he's talented and will have a nice career, and probably become better than most of those first round picks. Look what happened to his draft status. Look at Puljujärvi, who many considered right behind Matthews 1-2 years before the draft and then Laine surpassed him and even Dubois got picked before him.

Dvorsky has already played against men. I believe he will make his debut for AIK in Allsvenskan this upcoming year and dominate the j20 and the year after that, he should be a top player in the Allsvenskan and perhaps play another year in the SHL (if needed) before heading towards NHL.

He has the same talent as Pastrnak had and I believe it was a good decision from players like Vrana and Pasta to move to Sweden when Czech youth development was and had been bad for a decade, less or more. The Slovaks had similar problems and are hopefully turning it around now.
I honestly believe Strbak and Slafkovsky can become really good as well because Finnish junior hockey is producing great players and if you as a foreigner move over there and stand out as well, then you are something special.
Especially when you consider they don't speak the language and need to be special to get a chance before domestic players. To do this as a youngster shows more than talent, it shows will power and character. Don't underestimate that.
 
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Pavel Buchnevich said:
I wouldn’t rule out that there are better players in 2023 than Bedard and Michkov. Most of these guys haven’t even played junior yet. However, given what we know is the usual caliber of top players, I wouldn’t expect it, Dvorsky or someone else.

As to who might go the highest in the draft, that’s even harder to predict, but that also gives more room for other outcomes that aren’t Bedard and Michkov 1-2 in some order.
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Not only that, but other than Wright; we haven’t seen much from Canada’s crop for the 2022 draft since there wasn’t a full CHL season and their national team games have been against each other.
I project the 2022 draft to have more impactful players than 2021 yet many we haven’t seen play since their 15y/o seasons.
 
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Svedu said:
Look at Aatu Räty, even if he's talented and will have a nice career, and probably become better than most of those first round picks. Look what happened to his draft status. Look at Puljujärvi, who many considered right behind Matthews 1-2 years before the draft and then Laine surpassed him and even Dubois got picked before him.
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Michkov absolutely dominated every single tournament he’s participated in including the WJHC U18 as an underager. We’re not talking about a player being potentially good, but in the case of Bedard and Michkov, we’re talking about being potentially generational.
 
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ViD said:
Michkov absolutely dominated every single tournament he’s participated in including the WJHC U18 as an underager. We’re not talking about a player being potentially good, but in the case of Bedard and Michkov, we’re talking about being potentially generational.
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Yeah I agree. Dvorsky is great and has shown the scouts that he should be considered a potential future lottery pick if his development path continues but bedard and Michkov are in a tier above. Dvorsky however is still very good and probably the best Slovak forward prospective in many years.
 
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Antiillafire said:
Haha maybe I am exaggerating a bit with it.
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Maybe it´s just sentiment speaking, but Gaborik was an exceptional talent and I don´t think we can put Dvorsky in the same category based on the results of one tournament. I am not saying he can´t get there. But first, let´s wait to see if he can maintain this level in the upcoming regular season.
 
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Svedu said:
You guys who think that the draft list is a done deal two years before the actual draft? Go home. Imagine believing Michkov is a top2 guy already without even doubting a second?

Look at Aatu Räty, even if he's talented and will have a nice career, and probably become better than most of those first round picks. Look what happened to his draft status. Look at Puljujärvi, who many considered right behind Matthews 1-2 years before the draft and then Laine surpassed him and even Dubois got picked before him.

Dvorsky has already played against men. I believe he will make his debut for AIK in Allsvenskan this upcoming year and dominate the j20 and the year after that, he should be a top player in the Allsvenskan and perhaps play another year in the SHL (if needed) before heading towards NHL.

He has the same talent as Pastrnak had and I believe it was a good decision from players like Vrana and Pasta to move to Sweden when Czech youth development was and had been bad for a decade, less or more. The Slovaks had similar problems and are hopefully turning it around now.
I honestly believe Strbak and Slafkovsky can become really good as well because Finnish junior hockey is producing great players and if you as a foreigner move over there and stand out as well, then you are something special.
Especially when you consider they don't speak the language and need to be special to get a chance before domestic players. To do this as a youngster shows more than talent, it shows will power and character. Don't underestimate that.
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What Michkov is doing in Russia compares to only one player before him; Alexander Ovechkin. Debatably the greatest goal scorer the NHL has ever seen.

Your statement can be turned right around onto you and Dvorsky and how he is getting overhyped two years before his draft after one strong showing at the hlinka
 
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