2021 Blues Regular Season multi-purpose thread

[Linkens Mastery]

Also, as I suggested a few days ago.



And Kyrou, Thomas, Perron, Walman, and Husso are all skating

 

[CaliforniaBlues310]

Being the guy that Army is, I don’t see Neal being out the door just yet. He’s only a few goals away from 300, and I can see him getting that milestone before his career is done.

 

[execwrite1]

Eh, I'd rather see him as our bench warmer instead of someone like Kostin or Toro who are waiver exempt and would be better off getting top 6 minutes in the AHL instead of watching from the pressbox. Brown is forcing Army and Berube's hand by playing extremely well. I wouldn't be surprised to see a paper move after this game to send Brown down to the AHL then recall him under a standard callup.

From Lou -

Forward Logan Brown will play in his ninth game for the Blues on Friday, and even as an emergency recall because of all the injuries and COVID-19 protocol, if he plays in his 10th game and/or reaches 30 days since he was called up, which was Nov. 28, Brown would need to clear waivers if the Blues were to send him back down.
Brown, who cleared waivers when the Blues assigned him to Springfield prior to the season, has two goals and three assists in eight games.

 

[Linkens Mastery]

From Lou -

Forward Logan Brown will play in his ninth game for the Blues on Friday, and even as an emergency recall because of all the injuries and COVID-19 protocol, if he plays in his 10th game and/or reaches 30 days since he was called up, which was Nov. 28, Brown would need to clear waivers if the Blues were to send him back down.
Brown, who cleared waivers when the Blues assigned him to Springfield prior to the season, has two goals and three assists in eight games.

Yes? I know this. Lol

 

[ChicagoBlues]

Being the guy that Army is, I don’t see Neal being out the door just yet. He’s only a few goals away from 300, and I can see him getting that milestone before his career is done.

And Stevie Y was only 8 goals away from 700.

 

[CaliforniaBlues310]

And Stevie Y was only 8 goals away from 700.

Apples to oranges right here. Stevie Y was 40 and dealing with injury issues. Didn’t get cut mid-season.

 

[ChicagoBlues]

Apples to oranges right here. Stevie Y was 40 and dealing with injury issues. Didn’t get cut mid-season.

Yea, I know. Just a quick top-of-mind comparison.

 

[Xerloris]

Being the guy that Army is, I don’t see Neal being out the door just yet. He’s only a few goals away from 300, and I can see him getting that milestone before his career is done.

And Broduer was a few wins away from 700 yet Allen played most of the games even though Broduer played better but the team constantly shit the bed in front of him.

 

[ezcreepin]

After Brown's performance, I really can't see the Blues waiving him. I don't think they'll have to because someone will either get hurt, get covid, or some flukey thing like that, but I think Brown is here to stay, which is nice because he's played well. I just hope that he continues playing hard, otherwise he will quickly become Logan "Zach Sanford" Brown.

 

[Zezel’s Pretzels]

After Brown's performance, I really can't see the Blues waiving him. I don't think they'll have to because someone will either get hurt, get covid, or some flukey thing like that, but I think Brown is here to stay, which is nice because he's played well. I just hope that he continues playing hard, otherwise he will quickly become Logan "Zach Sanford" Brown.

For now, he's still a younger, cheaper, higher upside player than Sanford. Steal of a deal already, even if he goes back to the minors.

 

[ezcreepin]

For now, he's still a younger, cheaper, higher upside player than Sanford. Steal of a deal already, even if he goes back to the minors.

I don't think he'll clear at this point unless all the teams that like him are dealing with covid protocols. I'm hoping he can stay up here and have a productive season, but at some point unless Neal is traded, he'll have to clear waivers.

 

[Zezel’s Pretzels]

I don't think he'll clear at this point unless all the teams that like him are dealing with covid protocols. I'm hoping he can stay up here and have a productive season, but at some point unless Neal is traded, he'll have to clear waivers.

I think the plan is for him to go down shortly, before the 10th game/30th day. It is what it is. But the Blues aren't going to expose him.

 

[Brian39]

And Broduer was a few wins away from 700 yet Allen played most of the games even though Broduer played better but the team constantly shit the bed in front of him.

Marty was 12 wins back of 700 when we acquired him and he was here for 5 or 6 weeks. Marty posted an .888 over his 5 starts as a Blue and an .899 over his 7 overall appearances. He hardly put up a performance that indicated he should have (or was capable of) starting 12+ straight games. In Marty's last few games here, Jake Allen wasn't dressed and Elliott was the goalie getting time over Marty. We ran 3 goalies in practice for about 10 days, Elliott caught fire and then Marty was granted a leave of absence to decide what he wanted to do.

Marty was signed mid-season to help the team deal with injuries. It is absurd to act like he should have been thrown out there indefinitely for 15+ games to try and get 12 wins. Jake Allen was a rookie that season and Elliott was the 1A in the first year of a 3 year deal. We weren't going to alter the long term goalie plan to suddenly play Marty for 15+ games in a playoff year.

Ridiculous revisionist history.

 

[ezcreepin]

I think the plan is for him to go down shortly, before the 10th game/30th day. It is what it is. But the Blues aren't going to expose him.

Yea you are probably right. It'll either be Perron coming back or Kostin coming back after 2 games in Springfield. Or, the Blues could surprise us and keep him up. It's doubtful, and I think they likely keep Walker or Joshua up, but you're right, there's no way they are going to lose Brown for nothing after trading Sanford.

 

[Xerloris]

Marty was 12 wins back of 700 when we acquired him and he was here for 5 or 6 weeks. Marty posted an .888 over his 5 starts as a Blue and an .899 over his 7 overall appearances. He hardly put up a performance that indicated he should have (or was capable of) starting 12+ straight games. In Marty's last few games here, Jake Allen wasn't dressed and Elliott was the goalie getting time over Marty. We ran 3 goalies in practice for about 10 days, Elliott caught fire and then Marty was granted a leave of absence to decide what he wanted to do.

Marty was signed mid-season to help the team deal with injuries. It is absurd to act like he should have been thrown out there indefinitely for 15+ games to try and get 12 wins. Jake Allen was a rookie that season and Elliott was the 1A in the first year of a 3 year deal. We weren't going to alter the long term goalie plan to suddenly play Marty for 15+ games in a playoff year.

Ridiculous revisionist history.

It's absurd that you're trying to paint me as a revisionist when you don't acknowledge that I'm correct about Allen getting the majority of the starts even though he played like shit. Elliott was hurt and that's the entire reason we signed Broduer, no shit Elliot who was the #1 would take his net back when he returned. Allen however was a shit show and there was no reason for hitch to keep trotting him out there game after game but what can you expect from a coach who's best buddy GM signs a goalie to a 4x4 without having proven a single f***ing thing to anyone.

 

[Linkens Mastery]

I love how much Dom hates the Blues and the Blues fanbase.

 

[Louie the Blue]

Marty was 12 wins back of 700 when we acquired him and he was here for 5 or 6 weeks. Marty posted an .888 over his 5 starts as a Blue and an .899 over his 7 overall appearances. He hardly put up a performance that indicated he should have (or was capable of) starting 12+ straight games. In Marty's last few games here, Jake Allen wasn't dressed and Elliott was the goalie getting time over Marty. We ran 3 goalies in practice for about 10 days, Elliott caught fire and then Marty was granted a leave of absence to decide what he wanted to do.

Marty was signed mid-season to help the team deal with injuries. It is absurd to act like he should have been thrown out there indefinitely for 15+ games to try and get 12 wins. Jake Allen was a rookie that season and Elliott was the 1A in the first year of a 3 year deal. We weren't going to alter the long term goalie plan to suddenly play Marty for 15+ games in a playoff year.

Ridiculous revisionist history.

Real revisionist history is viewing 2014-2015 as Allen’s rookie year as opposed to 12-13 even though he made the all-rookie team both years.

Allen was called up in the lockout shortened season when Elliott played like garbage/on a cold streak to backup Halak and then spent all of the following season in Chicago during the three-headed monster era of Halak/Elliott/Miller.

 

[Frenzy31]

What about keeping Brown up over Kostin? Kostin doesn’t need to clear waivers.

 

[Reality Czech]

I love how much Dom hates the Blues and the Blues fanbase.

You mean Dominic Moore? Wasn't he the guy who got sucker punched by Sobotka in the "Roman Polak Door" fracas vs. San Jose? I remember feeling bad for Moore because he didn't see the punch coming at all and got his nose broken. Maybe he's still bitter about that.

 

[Mike Liut]

What about keeping Brown up over Kostin? Kostin doesn’t need to clear waivers.

That might happen. They won’t risk losing Broan again

 

[Linkens Mastery]

You mean Dominic Moore? Wasn't he the guy who got sucker punched by Sobotka in the "Roman Polak Door" fracas vs. San Jose? I remember feeling bad for Moore because he didn't see the punch coming at all and got his nose broken. Maybe he's still bitter about that.

Dom from the Athletic

 

[WATTAGE4451]

It's absurd that you're trying to paint me as a revisionist when you don't acknowledge that I'm correct about Allen getting the majority of the starts even though he played like shit. Elliott was hurt and that's the entire reason we signed Broduer, no shit Elliot who was the #1 would take his net back when he returned. Allen however was a shit show and there was no reason for hitch to keep trotting him out there game after game but what can you expect from a coach who's best buddy GM signs a goalie to a 4x4 without having proven a single f***ing thing to anyone.

I get you dont like allen, but Brodeur had a sub .900 sv%


Brodeur at that point of his career was toast. Allen waz the future and they werent perma benching him for a few bad starts. Allen went on to have a .913 sv% that year.

Brodeur didnt even have the stamina to start every night at that point. He was coming off a bad 4 year stretch in new jersey and was long past his days. He was free agent cuz no one wanted him til blues signed him.

He had a .903 .901 and .901 sv% in 3 of the 4 previous seasons. He was done. There was no reason to start him for just milestones. Allen had a higher chance ofnturning things around and eventually did. It was pretty established what present brodeur was by that time.

Brodeur was garbage in 3 of his 5 starts. And 1 of those 2 starts he did well on was a shutout where the blues dominated the game and only let up 16 measly shots mostly mid to low danger.

His to relief appearennces were good but he didnt really earn any right to start more when he did and we had 4 years of history telling us he was done

 

[Frenzy31]

That might happen. They won’t risk losing Broan again

He is producing, playing possible defense, and going to the hard areas. Which was what was holding him back. He keeps doing this, I don’t think you can send him down. Fits in well with the age of the second core.

 

[Xerloris]

I get you dont like allen, but Brodeur had a sub .900 sv%


Brodeur at that point of his career was toast. Allen waz the future and they werent perma benching him for a few bad starts. Allen went on to have a .913 sv% that year.

Brodeur didnt even have the stamina to start every night at that point. He was coming off a bad 4 year stretch in new jersey and was long past his days. He was free agent cuz no one wanted him til blues signed him.

He had a .903 .901 and .901 sv% in 3 of the 4 previous seasons. He was done. There was no reason to start him for just milestones. Allen had a higher chance ofnturning things around and eventually did. It was pretty established what present brodeur was by that time.

Brodeur was garbage in 3 of his 5 starts. And 1 of those 2 starts he did well on was a shutout where the blues dominated the game and only let up 16 measly shots mostly mid to low danger.

His to relief appearennces were good but he didnt really earn any right to start more when he did and we had 4 years of history telling us he was done

He literally backstopped the Devils to the cup finals in 2012. That's pretty impressive for a guy that was toast for the previous 4 years. During the time Elliott was hurt, Allen played 10 games and Broduer played 7 but 2 were because Allen had to be pulled. I get that you seem to dislike Broduer but trying to defend the below stats by saying by the end of the year he had a 913sv% is letting him off the hook for when he was needed most. There was only a short window when Elliott was injured and neither Allen nor Broduer played like a #1 but after watching Allen shit the bed game after game they should have given Broduer a real shot. The dude was in his 40's and had no training camp and came out of basically retirement to play and put up similar if not slightly better numbers than Allen at the time and that's absolutely pathetic on Allens part.

Allen games

813sv%
947sv%
879sv%
750sv%
893sv%
920sv%
913sv%
900sv%
839sv%
833sv%

 

[execwrite1]

Time for Doug to wrap a nice new contract in some shiny green paper with a red bow and place it under the Chief's Christmas tree.

What a great job by the coaching staff.