This thread has become a disaster. Some kind of weird insecurity or inferiority complex taking root. He'll sign the day he is able to, and the contract has been drafted for months at this point.
Prospect Info: 2021 2nd Rd Pick (#57 OA) - Matthew Knies (LW) - Tri-City (USHL)
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Dragao6
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I agree
I don’t understand all the pessimism of signing him and wanting to trade when nothing has happened.
Leafs have not signed their prospect because they are not allowed until season ends
Am I missing something?
TheGreatOne11
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Knies really doesn't matter. I love him as a prospect but he's not going to be the reason we win or lose the cup.
His passion and enthusiasm for making the show and his ability to protect the puck could be assets, but also you have to think about the rookie mistakes in the heat of the moment and being able to handle the biggest spotlight of any players career straight out of college.
His passion and enthusiasm for making the show and his ability to protect the puck could be assets, but also you have to think about the rookie mistakes in the heat of the moment and being able to handle the biggest spotlight of any players career straight out of college.
The leafs can sign Knies at any point. There isn’t a time frame. Knies could have signed in October, he could have signed in December or January. We’ve seen college players sign after the world juniors before as well. Most recently Tyler Boucher of the Ottawa Senators did.
Only reason Knies wasn’t signed as soon as NCAA season was over or even around the trade deadline is because of two reasons.
1. Minnesota is a good team!
2. He literally said his goal for right now is to win a national championship and the leafs are supporting him in that dream. He has an opportunity to do so this year.
That’s really it.
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I don’t think there is a problem speculating what would happen if he doesn’t sign. Until he signs it is a possibility he won’t. There is no obvious reason to assume he wont
Other than he hasn’t.
Johnny hockey/vesey/Tavares etc. teams were comfortable at the time
Until they weren’t.
IF he won’t sign I would personally move him. Target the ottawa pick from Arizona IF he would sign there.
Discussing hypotheticals on a Fantasy board isn’t a crazy idea
Other than he hasn’t.
Johnny hockey/vesey/Tavares etc. teams were comfortable at the time
Until they weren’t.
IF he won’t sign I would personally move him. Target the ottawa pick from Arizona IF he would sign there.
Discussing hypotheticals on a Fantasy board isn’t a crazy idea
keonsbitterness
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Completely bizarre. The very characteristic of just being American means Knies doesn't like the Leafs and wants to be traded. This fanbase need stop perpetuating such bullshit.
Hellcat
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He's headed to Arizona, there are red flags, innuendo and hints ...
I'm honestly not sure if it's provocateurs or just smooth brained folks.
A player with the Leafs has more earning potential there then any other franchise with the plethora of sponsorship opportunities. But yeah apparantly prospects don't wanna be here
Also Knies - with his skillset - has a great chance to slot in beside some of the best players in the league for his ELC. Once again, a major opportunity for earning potential. And he's just not gonna pursue any of this because???
A 3rd liner has more potential to make money in Toronto than Arizona? Do tell?
One of the things that he is using to dominate in the NCAA will be a non factor in the NHL, I think you are getting caught up in the Knies hype. Time will tell.
Oh so now his ceiling is a 3rd liner. Yeah I think I'll head out now.
Contenderorpretender
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What are the red flags and innuendos? Cause the only thing I heard out of Knies’ mouth was the following.
1. “I want to win a national championship here with Minnesota.”
2. “I feel stronger, more mature and ready to play in the NHL”.
3. “Itching to join the group in Toronto”
Where has he mentioned that he doesn’t want to sign? He didn’t feel ready last year.
Gary Nylund
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Perhaps he took your advice from another thread and went out to get some fresh air? We can only hope that if that's what he did, the fresh air helps, his takes are getting even worse than they already were. Reminds me of that Interactif/Winter Soldier guy, except less coherent.
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............ aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand just like that the thread lost a bunch of useless fat.
Common Knies!!!!
Common Knies!!!!
ULF_55
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Perhaps it should be renamed, "You agree HockeyBoard".
Maybe he'll be the difference in the Leafs retaining home ice advantage in the 1st. round?
Is he the only worthy NCAA player the Leafs have drafted?
I know they have drafted others in college, but none I've heard of being almost guaranteed NHL calibre.
Martin Skoula
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To sum things up for new readers:
He’s not going to sign, but that doesn’t matter because he’s a bust who only ever had a 4th line ceiling, until he signs with another team at which point he becomes the obvious top line power forward we’ve been missing and it’s Dubas’ fault for drafting such a low ceiling 1st line bust unicorn.
He’s not going to sign, but that doesn’t matter because he’s a bust who only ever had a 4th line ceiling, until he signs with another team at which point he becomes the obvious top line power forward we’ve been missing and it’s Dubas’ fault for drafting such a low ceiling 1st line bust unicorn.
Plan A is for him to sign. Having a big rugged LW in the system fills a huge need. His upside for what we need is pretty enticing
I would love it if he was the difference. Heck go full caufield.
But if he doesn’t sign I personally would have concerns about him wanting to be here.
Adam Wylde is buddies with walsh (fleurys agent) and he is adamant that the leafs offered knies for fleury
And hagel. The only Walsh thing he has said from what I know
I don’t think knies is untouchable.
WTFMAN99
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If he lands on a team like Chicago where he may not have any help, it's not a certainty.
Namikaze Minato
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Mcdavid didnt win it, Crosby didnt win it, JT didnt win it, Stamkos didnt win it.
Some of the most hype rookies and draft picks in recent history and they cant always win for a multitude of different factors, nobody is a lock.
TheDoldrums
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McDavid missed half the year, Crosby was competing against another #1 pick and fellow generational talent. JT and Stamkos were not on this level as prospects by draft day, Stamkos was getting like 10 minutes a game early on.
If Bedard stays healthy I'd be very surprised if he doesn't win it.
JT and Stamkos also played for some seriously bad teams. Isles for 10 years didn't have anyone to play with JT. They wasted his talent
Stamkos did have some decent players but he was never considered a tier 1 talent or generational at all
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