Rumor: 2021-22 Trade Rumors and FA Part V: To Giroux or not to Giroux

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I was worried when Landeskog’s future was up in the air, but I’m not worried about Mack leaving anymore.

Barring some crazy ass shit to finish the year, I’d bet all my damn money he extends this summer.
 
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If we can’t get a stud#4 Dman like Chychrun who would you want to bring in for the 4-6 D help?
Scott Mayfield?
Carson Soucy?
Justin Braun?
Josh Manson?
 

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If we can’t get a stud#4 Dman like Chychrun who would you want to bring in for the 4-6 D help?
Scott Mayfield?
Carson Soucy?
Justin Braun?
Josh Manson?
He's yet to play this season so is a huge ???, and idk how we'd fit his cap without retention, but if he returns this season healthy, I'd like Joel Edmundson. Big, defensively-sound dman that can be depended on in his own end. Blocks and hits plenty, first one to step up for his teammates too in a scrap. Underrated breakout and multi-zone passing ability as well.

Considering he's yet to play this season though due to a playoff/offseason back injury, he's damaged goods and a risk until he returns healthy, but he'd be a decent addition if in shape.
 

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If we can’t get a stud#4 Dman like Chychrun who would you want to bring in for the 4-6 D help?
Scott Mayfield?
Carson Soucy?
Justin Braun?
Josh Manson?

Mark Giordano would be the best pick up IMO.

Carson Soucy would be good too, but Seattle might not deal him with a year remaining on his contract. Montreal will probably move both of Ben Chariot and Brett Kulak.
 
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I do not know if people agree on this regarding trades, assets and cap management:

The key to have sustained success in this (flat) cap era is having players overperform on cheap contracts (read ELC contracts, the MacKinnon contract has been a unicorn).

A conclusion of this sentiment is that we should not give away futures mindlessly and definutely not overpay for rentals.

I am too drunk to advance this reasoning, but I have been a fan since -96-97 and will remain so for many years and am in no hurry to take risks on a mortgage.
 
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Here's how I'd rank their chances of getting traded at the deadline:

Not available: Byram, Newhook

Very unlikely: Barron

Possible, but unlikely: Olausson, Annunen

On the table: Kaut, Foudy, Bowers, Ranta, Helleson
And Behrens on the table
 

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Giroux (50%) for 1st + Helleson
Nick Paul for Compher

Comes in just over the cap with Byram on the roster but that could probably be navigated without needing to pay anything extra for double retention on Giroux.

That 4th line would be a lot tougher to play against, and Paul would solve the 4th line/PK face-off issue.

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If this isn't a Stanley Cup-winning roster I don't know what is.
 
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I do not know if people agree on this regarding trades, assets and cap management:

The key to have sustained success in this (flat) cap era is having players overperform on cheap contracts (read ELC contracts, the MacKinnon contract has been a unicorn).

A conclusion of this sentiment is that we should not give away futures mindlessly and definutely not overpay for rentals.

I am too drunk to advance this reasoning, but I have been a fan since -96-97 and will remain so for many years and am in no hurry to take risks on a mortgage.

We do not have any future quality prospects to trade or maybe we cannot afford to trade any high class A or B+ prospects. We have a few B prospects, maybe a second and third rounder pick. MacK was the one that suggested to JS to draft Barron so I am all for keeping him. Top prospects might be much more valuable then rentals because they are on an affordable cap space and also have more more years. I would not trade Newhook. He could be a top 2nd line center next year and can be cheap for us to have for the next 3 years and then he can sign a long term contract.
 
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I was worried when Landeskog’s future was up in the air, but I’m not worried about Mack leaving anymore.

Barring some crazy ass shit to finish the year, I’d bet all my damn money he extends this summer.
Why this summer ? I wouldn't think so at all
 

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Why this summer ? I wouldn't think so at all

Because MacKinnon’s value isn’t getting any higher. He’s already going to get an 8-year deal for whatever they can afford, so might as well lock it in.
 

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He's yet to play this season so is a huge ???, and idk how we'd fit his cap without retention, but if he returns this season healthy, I'd like Joel Edmundson. Big, defensively-sound dman that can be depended on in his own end. Blocks and hits plenty, first one to step up for his teammates too in a scrap. Underrated breakout and multi-zone passing ability as well.

Considering he's yet to play this season though due to a playoff/offseason back injury, he's damaged goods and a risk until he returns healthy, but he'd be a decent addition if in shape.
Yeah he’d be good. I kind of forgot about him because of the injury. Probably not ideal for this year.

this is from the habs nhl website Jan 28 2022

Defenseman Joel Edmundson has a lower-back injury. He's progressing slowly and continues his therapy work. He's out indefinitely.
 
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Gruyeriev

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Mark Giordano would be the best pick up IMO.

Carson Soucy would be good too, but Seattle might not deal him with a year remaining on his contract. Montreal will probably move both of Ben Chariot and Brett Kulak.
I like Gio but I’d put him up with Chychrun as costing too much(assets and salary)

Chariot is overrated IMO and they seem to want a lot for him but he would still be an upgrade for us.

Kulak doesn’t move the meter much for me
 
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Because MacKinnon’s value isn’t getting any higher. He’s already going to get an 8-year deal for whatever they can afford, so might as well lock it in.
Might wanna try free agency and decide for himself where he wants to go. Don't see any incentive to sign early
 

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The Avs should just bite the bullet and empty their cupboard for Bjorkstrand and Gavrikov. Bjorkstrand would fill Burakovsky's role and salary once he leaves this summer, and Gavrikov is the steady defensive rock that can enable any of our puck movers on either side of the blue line
 

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The Avs should just bite the bullet and empty their cupboard for Bjorkstrand and Gavrikov. Bjorkstrand would fill Burakovsky's role and salary once he leaves this summer, and Gavrikov is the steady defensive rock that can enable any of our puck movers on either side of the blue line
Bjorkstrand actually has great possession metrics (despite never really producing at the level expected). Gavrikov on the other hand doesn’t but Columbus has been bad this year. Though last year was about the same for both of them. Obviously quality of competition plays into that as well.
 
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