Axl Rhoadz
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Post of the year...
GDT: 2021-22 season LA Kings vs Pittsburgh Penguins @10:00AM 1/30/22
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ScoreZeGoals
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- Jun 29, 2010
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Nobody in the Kings organization is "filling the hole" on a line with Brown and AA, nobody. Expecting a 19 year old to do it in his first dozen games in the NHL and then taking that kid to task for it is pretty silly. Any line with AA and Brown on it is flawed beyond repair, plain and simple
Reclamation Project
Cut It All Right In Two
- Jul 6, 2011
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I wouldn't be surprised to see Blake make a big trade for a piece at the deadline for a young impact player with a couple years left. Haven't seen anything about it and have no info, just have a feeling it's going to happen. I think they really want this team making the playoffs this year, have the capital to make a move, and also want to add a piece for the next couple years. Something like the Arvidsson deal but bigger. I have full confidence in Blake making a trade, they've been very solid so far.
David Lunch
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I get this feeling too. I think odds are it’s Chychrun, but I could see a surprise too.
Herby
How could Blake have known?
Yeah the Toronto trades were great for the Kings. Unlike many of the players from the Kings cup teams they pulled the plug on Muzzin just in time and got maximum return for him. Durzi emerging really makes that one a big win for the Kings.
Hey, it's a nice and toasty 40 here the next couple of days in the Mitten. They can play golf like one of my neighbors is planning on doing Tuesday.
On the Muzzin one I would agree. Tough to say Toronto regrets the Campbell one, that was a classic win/win trade for both clubs even if JC was not seen as much more than a throw-in. The Kings had no use for Campbell and needed a guy like Moore, and JC has been really strong for the Leafs. Clifford was actually another guy the Kings dumped just in time before the wheels came off, can't believe we got Moore back for him.
When the Kings score 3 goals in regulation they are really tough to beat 17-4. For comparison the Ducks are 16-10, Vegas is 21-8, SJ is 12-6. This team is one 35 goal-scorer away from being a contender.
They would all be great, but all of them other than Giroux are on playoff contenders. If Dallas were to say go 2-6-2 over their next 10, then maybe we take a look at a guy like Pavelski. He would be a dream for the Kings, he can play center or wing, is responsible defensively (for those obsessed with that type of stuff) and he is on pace for close to 40 goals and 100 points. He is a guy I've really come to admire, doing what he is doing at his age is pretty incredible. Plus he's on an expiring contract. Giroux has many of the same qualities and would be a nice fit too on an expiring contract.
The Kings really don't have that many 1st line players so it's more like they run a top 9 anyways. Kempe would still be on the #1 PP and out there in offensive situations.
Raccoon Jesus
We were right there
Guess Ill do this one more time for good measure.
You can throw a rookie on the third line one piano, but not two.
Look at how absurd QB's numbers are without these clowns, then look at how much he elevates Brown. Then look what happens when you add oil to the water.
Blaming Byfield for having a bad game next to these guys is like blaming a car for crashing itself with two flat tires.
All three are going to continue to have bad games going forward and it won't be because of QB's ability or readiness, it's because it's an absolutely stupid mix that anyone could have seen coming, rookie learning on the job next to one of the biggest liabilities in the league and guy who will get a Kings statue but actually currently is a Kings' statue.
You can throw a rookie on the third line one piano, but not two.
Look at how absurd QB's numbers are without these clowns, then look at how much he elevates Brown. Then look what happens when you add oil to the water.
Blaming Byfield for having a bad game next to these guys is like blaming a car for crashing itself with two flat tires.
All three are going to continue to have bad games going forward and it won't be because of QB's ability or readiness, it's because it's an absolutely stupid mix that anyone could have seen coming, rookie learning on the job next to one of the biggest liabilities in the league and guy who will get a Kings statue but actually currently is a Kings' statue.
Raccoon Jesus
We were right there
Frolov 6'3
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I tuned in at the end of the second period.
I had to witness several shots from the boards like we didnt want to score a 4th goal. On top of that two Penguins goals...a lucky shot and unfortunate bounce from Doughty's skate.
I quit watching and we scored the 4-3.
What a night.
I had to witness several shots from the boards like we didnt want to score a 4th goal. On top of that two Penguins goals...a lucky shot and unfortunate bounce from Doughty's skate.
I quit watching and we scored the 4-3.
What a night.
I missed the game since I was out and about.
I hope they got the puck for Moverare. I think that was his first career point.
I hope they got the puck for Moverare. I think that was his first career point.
Axl Rhoadz
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Gee, thanks. Can't you enjoy being a Kings fan and an awesome win for just like a couple days without leading the bitchfest? Maybe they can lose to DET for you on Wed and you can rally the troops!
Not sure if basing ANYTHING...off a 5 minute sample size of ice time...is a good idea.
Mats26
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- Sep 16, 2005
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Can't believe some on here are still calling Moore a tweener. After a very slow start he is heating up and looking like a very good middle 6 player. Any contender would love to have him in the bottom 6 for his cap hit. He's a swiss army knife that can play in any situation and on some nights provides unexpected offence. Sure he is not a full time top 6 but we can't dismiss the fact that he is making the most of this opportunity to play a more offensive role. A season with a dozen or so goals and ~40pts at 26 is no tweener.
Keep the tweener tag to players like Leipsic, Amadio, Andersson, Wagner, Fratten....please.
Keep the tweener tag to players like Leipsic, Amadio, Andersson, Wagner, Fratten....please.
Mats26
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you have no clue....put Moore on waivers and 31 teams would make a bid. You think every player or prospect should be a PPG first liner??
Role players are not tweeners, u think Stoll was a tweener?? Character guys who play a role help win cups....crazy concept I know.
Missed the game, but watched the high lights. Great pass by Moverare. How was the rest of the game for him? From previous views, he appears to be a very heady player.
Well, if you aren't top 6....which is what you said.....and sometimes you play top 6.....and bottom six....which is what you said.....
What does that make you.....BETWEEN...or TWEENER....right?
Mats26
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Stoll was a 2C then fell back to 3C. Thanks for categorizing Stoll as a tweener. Moore's future role will be a 3rd line winger, the fact that his is heating up in a top 6 role does not make him a tweener. I guess when Danault is our 3C he is a tweener too...lol ridiculous.
Tweener: Guys who aren't good enough to play in the top-six and don't have the grit/skillset to play on the bottom lines.
Examples: Leipsic, Amadio, Andersson, Wagner, Fratten..
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That's literally the goddamn definition of the word, when you are BETWEN something.....I mean shit....are you serious?
First of all, show me ONE person who said Moore shouldn't be in the NHL? Just one...please,
I thought a tweener was someone caught between the NHL and lower leagues (whether it be AHL or Europe, ie Hudson Fasching, Tomas Hyka)
They are, it's also between lines, not quite top 6, but very good bottom 6, ala..Moore....which is exactly what he is describing,
He's taking an argument that NO ONE has made, (ie, that Moore shouldn't be in the NHL) and using his status as a top six vs bottom six, to argue against a made up argument.....then saying he's not a tweener.....by defining him...as a tweener.
Mats26
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I didn't want to hurt his feelings with the proper definition. But "NHL tweener" according to some folks on here can classify about 200 players...lol
It should be: Guys who aren't good enough to play in the top-six and don't have the grit/skillset to play on the bottom lines. Kinda stuck in no mans land like some posters on here.
Which is how the f*** I was using it....and you didn't get it then, and think you don't get it now....
EDIT: I see....your definition is a bit f***ed......there's the disagreement, that's not a tweener, if you cant play in the top six, and you cant play in the bottom six....you aren't a TWEENER you aren't...stuck in between anything.
RonM11
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Trevor Moore is a f***ing beast. That's all.
cyclones22
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Interesting numbers for Moore. Basically, the 3rd line is the line of death for your numbers. Is it deployment? Is it the role that TMc demands from it? Is it the personnel on it? You decide.
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| Num | Time | % | Players | GF | GA | +/- | SF | SA | SF% | CF | CA | CF% |
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| 1 | 177:36 | 30.8 | PHILLIP DANAULT - VIKTOR ARVIDSSON - TREVOR MOORE | 12 | 2 | 10 | 129 | 75 | 63.2 | 227 | 148 | 60.5 |
| 2 | 85:32 | 14.8 | TREVOR MOORE - CARL GRUNDSTROM - RASMUS KUPARI | 2 | 1 | 1 | 33 | 47 | 41.3 | 57 | 85 | 40.1 |
| 3 | 30:12 | 5.2 | TREVOR MOORE - ARTHUR KALIYEV - RASMUS KUPARI | 1 | 0 | 1 | 18 | 6 | 75.0 | 35 | 21 | 62.5 |
| 4 | 29:33 | 5.1 | LIAS ANDERSSON - TREVOR MOORE - RASMUS KUPARI | 1 | 2 | -1 | 23 | 20 | 53.5 | 30 | 33 | 47.6 |
| 5 | 24:27 | 4.2 | BRENDAN LEMIEUX - TREVOR MOORE - BLAKE LIZOTTE | 1 | 0 | 1 | 13 | 5 | 72.2 | 29 | 13 | 69.0 |
| 6 | 18:15 | 3.2 | DUSTIN BROWN - TREVOR MOORE - RASMUS KUPARI | 0 | 1 | -1 | 6 | 10 | 37.5 | 7 | 16 | 30.4 |
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bmr
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I didn't want this post to get missed. I have been a big fan of Moverare and think he has definitely been flying under the radar a bit, especially with Durzi coming up. Moverare was a huge stablizing force for Ontario this season.
Moverare had 24 shifts for 19 minutes of icetime, was a +2 and had that awesome assist. Too small of a sample size, but didn't look out of place at all. In fact, I would love to see him stick with the team.
Do we really *NEED* Chychrun? I think most of us can argue that we want a more physical presence on the left side of the blue line, but hopefully that can be Edler if by some reason he is able to get back later in the season. I hate how they don't really give injury updates any more.
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