GDT: 2021-22 season game 6 LA Kings vs St. Louis Blues @5:00pm 10/25/21

[damacles1156]

Can't score
Can't defend
actually decent 5v5
godawful special teams
can't hit, won't hit
not fast enough--good skaters that aren't playing fast enough to use their skating
what's the system
zero identity
zero heart, fight

Injuries aren't an excuse for lifelessness, we saw the pens the other night win with their 7 highest paid players out. You don't need talent to work hard.

this is an unacceptable measure of 'progress' at this point.

I can accept reckless youthful mistakes pushing the play and being aggressive especially vs. an experienced team like the Blues. I can't accept laziness or lackadaisical play and no one finishing their hits. This blues team has to be looking at the vets that used to turn them black and blue and laughing their absolute assess off while they stickhandle past the third drive-by.

This has become literally the worst stretch of Kings hockey I've ever seen, spinning our wheels in mud, working towards absolutely nothing, ruining both vets AND youth with a lack of vision or cohesion in any way. Guarantee you the first trade we make will go off and produce 1.5x what they are here in a 'role' fit for them...and I'm willing to bet it's Kempe.

Someone earlier mentioned the TM years and how it felt they were at least coming together and building towards something; this team feels like a pickup game where the sticks were just thrown in the middle and the guys have their memories wiped night after night and have to reintroduce themselves to new guys. No brotherhood here. Who is next to get run over?

Can you imagine some of the Blues players what they think about this current Kings team, The ones old enough to remember playing the 2012-2014 Kings teams. Wow talk about night and day.

 

[YAYSAY]

Yup, as I mentioned, one for three

Except you said he has one move, just goes around the outside, I pointed out how that's not true. So not exactly as you mentioned, is it?

 

[FSL KINGS]

Was going to joke about, "good thing we still have Maatta", but too sad. Sad to see Walker go down.

Roy had some nice, crisp passes on the PP. Kupari had some good shifts.

 

[Master Yoda]

Talk about a sophomore slump. Anderson gets beat by Tarasanko on his goal and throws it randomly to the middle on Tarasanko's second.
He's been pretty bad to start the season.

 

[King'sPawn]

Except you said he has one move, just goes around the outside, I pointed out how that's not true. So not exactly as you mentioned, is it?

I'm disappointed in you not recognizing Eminem lyrics.

 

[Little Psycho]

 

[kingsfan28]

Talk about a sophomore slump. Anderson gets beat by Tarasanko on his goal and throws it randomly to the middle on Tarasanko's second.
He's been pretty bad to start the season.

That entire shift was a mess. Kempe with a clean shot, misses high and wide, goes all the way around to a forward who passes to Andersen who then passes it to a Blue.. another breakaway goal. From total control to down by two in 15 seconds.

 

[kingsfan28]

Yeah man. I don't see it as this black and white. He made some really bad contract decisions but also the only GM to bring any kind of success to LA. I think he should have had a longer leash. Especially after seeing what we have in front of us now.

Nope. DL did it all on his own. His blatant denial of a changing league, non wavering support of Sutter who clearly lost the team [ and blew a 15 point lead in the division] and reckless trades that has hurt the team for years. Caving into Sutters demand to be resigned only if Brown wasn't captain didn't help either. And if you think DL would've drafted the guys Blake has, you'd be wrong.

 

[Telos]

I was a huge DL supporter and still love him and consider him a team legend, but it was apparent he had to go in the end. If he had found the will to get rid of Sutter and manage our assets better then maybe he could have kept going, but it was clear that he was never going to and he was making desperate deals to try and prolong a core and his job when it was becoming clear that the magic was gone.

To this day I still can't forgive the Brown demotion. Kopitar is a good guy but not a captain. Brown did nothing to lose his captaincy and deserved to keep it throughout his career.

 

[DryIslandBartender]

Nope. DL did it all on his own. His blatant denial of a changing league, non wavering support of Sutter who clearly lost the team [ and blew a 15 point lead in the division] and reckless trades that has hurt the team for years. Caving into Sutters demand to be resigned only if Brown wasn't captain didn't help either. And if you think DL would've drafted the guys Blake has, you'd be wrong.

Sutter has his flames rolling right now. Just steamrolled the rags.

 

[kingsfan28]

So only losing 3-0, not giving up a pp goal= moral victory?

There were some area's that looked better, yet they still couldn't score or really make it hard on the Blues young goalie. A very winnable game but they couldn't get it done.

 

[kingsfan28]

Sutter has his flames rolling right now. Just steamrolled the rags.

And the year before or when he first got there? Sutter was done in LA by the end of 15' , too bad DL wouldn't accept it.

 

[kingsfan28]

It's funny, I've long believed that Blake was trying to emulate the Maple Leafs. Building a possession offense that plays on the perimeter and shies away from any physicality; combined with a defense that plays passively. Now if you look at the records through 7 games they are damn near identical. Leafs 2-4-1 and Kings 1-5-1. Leafs 10th in xGF% and Kings 8th in xGF%. Leafs 7th in CF% and Kings 8th in CF%.

The funny thing is, there is no excuse why the Leafs aren't playing well. They have 3 elite scores who should be putting up point by now. We do not, and don't have any of the depth they have. I'd take Muzzin back right now if we could.

 

[ru4reals]

I was a huge DL supporter and still love him and consider him a team legend, but it was apparent he had to go in the end. If he had found the will to get rid of Sutter and manage our assets better then maybe he could have kept going, but it was clear that he was never going to and he was making desperate deals to try and prolong a core and his job when it was becoming clear that the magic was gone.

To this day I still can't forgive the Brown demotion. Kopitar is a good guy but not a captain. Brown did nothing to lose his captaincy and deserved to keep it throughout his career.

I'm the biggest Kopi fan but I agree. Brown should have never gotten the C taken away. And I know a few folks aren't the biggest DL fans but truth of the matter is without Dean we don't get 2 cups. Agree 100% on your take on DL, although I liked him I believe he set this franchise back a few years when he traded the 2015 pick away for crap. This was a very deep draft and not saying we would have gotten a stud but it was likely we could have drafted a very good player that would be on this team today.

 

[DryIslandBartender]

And the year before or when he first got there? Sutter was done in LA by the end of 15' , too bad DL wouldn't accept it.

Maybe Sutter was on to something when the group was getting soft. Flames look tough and winning games. Kings? Not so much.

 

[KingsFan7824]

Last time they started a season this poorly through 6 games was 07-8, when they were 1-5-0. They actually got to 6-6-0 through 12.

Pretty much the worst case scenario for a 4 game trip. Now 5 in a row at home, in what has to be a season saving home stand. But they've made it very easy to assume they won't show up though.

 

[Pandaman11]

I can't stress enough how much I hate wins by a large margin (i.e. 6-2 vs VGK). They are absolutely poisonous, for every team in every sports.

PS: I blame Seattle for yesterday's loss because they didn't pick Tarasenko...

 

[KingsFan7824]

I can't stress enough how much I hate wins by a large margin (i.e. 6-2 vs VGK). They are absolutely poisonous, for every team in every sports.

PS: I blame Seattle for yesterday's loss because they didn't pick Tarasenko...

If you have the 3rd worst record in the league over the last 214 games, spread over 3 years, one blowout win isn't affecting you one way or another. If they were good, maybe they forget where they are for a game after a 6-2 win. You don't lose the next 5. At least not when you've already been showing that you're not very good in the previous 209 games.

 

[bland]

Except you said he has one move, just goes around the outside, I pointed out how that's not true. So not exactly as you mentioned, is it?

The go wide and cut in late IS his only move and I have been calling it "The Kupari" since he was drafted. So yes, it is exactly as described. Please try to keep up if you are going to be aggressive in your posts.

 

[bland]

I'm disappointed in you not recognizing Eminem lyrics.

I am 48 man, that was all Malcom McClaren!

 

[bland]

I was a huge DL supporter and still love him and consider him a team legend, but it was apparent he had to go in the end. If he had found the will to get rid of Sutter and manage our assets better then maybe he could have kept going, but it was clear that he was never going to and he was making desperate deals to try and prolong a core and his job when it was becoming clear that the magic was gone.

To this day I still can't forgive the Brown demotion. Kopitar is a good guy but not a captain. Brown did nothing to lose his captaincy and deserved to keep it throughout his career.

Brown got what he deserved. He was always a paper captain and is incorrectly being given credit for the work put in by individuals Lombardi had to bring in from the outside who did all the heavy lifting.

Great guy, outstanding in the community, but needed real leaders to come in. Should sound familiar as the Kings are still in the same position - great role model with the C, not an inspirational leader when needed.

 

[BigBrown]

People talk as if who wears the C matters. I'd argue it has virtually no bearing on the overall success of a team. A good team has leaders in the locker room who take charge. I doubt whether they have letters on their jerseys or not plays in to the overall psychology and mindset of the team at all. Leaders lead. The letter is a badge of honor but mostly just for show.

 

[BringTheReign]

Can you imagine some of the Blues players what they think about this current Kings team, The ones old enough to remember playing the 2012-2014 Kings teams. Wow talk about night and day.

Point well taken, but funny enough, the only players from their 2012-2013 lineup (our last playoff matchup) are Tarasenko and Perron. Steve Ott is an assistant coach there now, so I guess that counts. Schwartz was close, but he's in Seattle.

I think it just goes to show you how quickly teams change. It's just Quick, Kopitar, Brown, and Doughty for us.

 

[Telos]

Brown got what he deserved. He was always a paper captain and is incorrectly being given credit for the work put in by individuals Lombardi had to bring in from the outside who did all the heavy lifting.

Great guy, outstanding in the community, but needed real leaders to come in. Should sound familiar as the Kings are still in the same position - great role model with the C, not an inspirational leader when needed.

It was a luxury to have so many leaders and former and future captains of other teams be present during the cup runs, but I disagree about Brown and his significance and inspiration to the organization. It no doubt helped Brown, but he was the best role model with the C both on and off the ice. He has always tried to play a high-energy power forward that brings top 6 production and has mostly succeeded. Even when everyone thought and literally told him that he was washed up he did the training and reforged himself back on the top line. He has been on that line through sheer force of will, in spite of everything, even the fanbase. And he f***ing deserves it too. He has 5 points in 6 games and is +1 on this tire fire of a team. Sure, I am there with anyone where I would love to see someone like Kaliyev take that spot and put up 60+ points and 30+ goals again and Brown lead by taking control of the bottom 6, signing one-year deals, and chipping in production; but honestly, the closest thing we have to putting up that production is still sadly Dustin Brown.

He's always tried and he's always played with his heart on his sleeve. He isn't a chatterbox, but when he says something the team listens, and he has taken special interest in working with the youngsters and directed team conditioning throughout the years. His physical play has set the tone of Kings hockey throughout the decades and while no one can be on all the time he has always given all that he could on the ice for the team and his peers have recognized and lauded him for it.

I understand where you're coming from. He's not Mark Messier, but he's our Mark Messier. Paper captain is a bullshit thing to say about Brown. He is the best captain the team has ever had, period. I know that the captaincy is very ceremonial, but it isn't completely worthless--it symbolizes who you want everyone to emulate, and what direction you want everyone to work towards. If left undefined, then you truly have no identity and everyone is sort of going in their own direction. It is not the end all be all, but knowing what you're working towards and who is getting you there matters.

 

[Sleeping Dog]

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