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GDT: 2021-22 season game 32 LA Kings vs Vancouver Canucks @7:30pm 12/30/21

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Ziggy Stardust said:
If the Kings somehow make the playoffs, Jonathan Quick better f***ing get some Hart Trophy votes.
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Kings are not making the playoffs. Canucks will pass them in a week. Goal scoring is a big problem for this team. When they generate a lot of shots they don't finish well and when they have spurts of good offensive zone attack, they pass up chances to shoot the puck. Arvidsson was signed to bring goal scoring and all he has is 6 goals and he's paid $4.25 million.

Had the Canucks not played last night, Kings would have lost this game in regulation. Quick has had a resurrection season, but he aint Hart worthy votes.
 
A win's a win, not going to be upset about it. Some negatives from this game, some positives. One big one: Kaliyev played 16:17! Lizotte, Lemieux, and Arvidsson had more time on ice than Danault though, which is odd. Given ice time distribution, our lines were actually:

Iafallo - Kopitar - Kempe
Lemieux - Lizotte - Kaliyev
Moore - Danault - Arvidsson


Grundstrom - Turcotte - Kupari

What's odd is that I actually thought Turcotte's line looked good. Defensively responsible but mostly played in the offensive zone. Kupari looked pretty good at wing and Turcotte was a monster in the face-off dot. Two of the face-offs he actually won back but didn't get enough support from the wingers.

Anyway, Kopitar's 26:14 was only 15 seconds shy of Doughty's game-high 26:39, riddle me that. JT Miller led Canucks forwards in ice time with 22:32, a reasonable time on ice given an overtime game.

But hey, we won. Stopped a seven game streak to boot. Good bounce back, but it shouldn't have been that close in the first place.
 
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kilowatt said:
A win's a win, not going to be upset about it. Some negatives from this game, some positives. One big one: Kaliyev played 16:17! Lizotte, Lemieux, and Arvidsson had more time on ice than Danault though, which is odd. Given ice time distribution, our lines were actually:

Iafallo - Kopitar - Kempe
Lemieux - Lizotte - Kaliyev
Moore - Danault - Arvidsson


Grundstrom - Turcotte - Kupari

What's odd is that I actually thought Turcotte's line looked good. Defensively responsible but mostly played in the offensive zone. Kupari looked pretty good at wing and Turcotte was a monster in the face-off dot. Two of the face-offs he actually won back but didn't get enough support from the wingers.

Anyway, Kopitar's 26:14 was only 15 seconds shy of Doughty's game-high 26:39, riddle me that. JT Miller led Canucks forwards in ice time with 22:32, a reasonable time on ice given an overtime game.

But hey, we won. Stopped a seven game streak to boot. Good bounce back, but it shouldn't have been that close in the first place.
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I don't know why TM shortened the bench. It was really apparent that all four lines were clicking and that part of the reason we were doing so well against a tired canucks team was fresh bodies persistently dogging them.

If anything the Moore-Danault-Arvy line was the messy one and deserved less time, zero chemistry there, just pucks flung all over the place. Moore is absolutely hurting right now.

5 bucks says Turcotte gets benched/sent down by Saturday though.
 
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Some good at least, Lizotte was absolutely beast mode. Lemieux doing his thing as usual. Doughty appears to be getting better, thankfully. And until that one shift late in the third with youth-y jitters, Durzi-Bjornfot was pretty godly.

And Kempe is fully our best forward for the season, imo is fulfilling his potential right now. The guy is absolutely dominant at times and has figured out how to not just USE his size and speed but how to time it to be unstoppable too (all those late-play jumpins tonight were higher IQ plays than he typically made before).
 
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SherVaughn30 said:
Kings are not making the playoffs. Canucks will pass them in a week. Goal scoring is a big problem for this team. When they generate a lot of shots they don't finish well and when they have spurts of good offensive zone attack, they pass up chances to shoot the puck. Arvidsson was signed to bring goal scoring and all he has is 6 goals and he's paid $4.25 million.

Had the Canucks not played last night, Kings would have lost this game in regulation. Quick has had a resurrection season, but he aint Hart worthy votes.
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Not a factor at all, its not like they were playing there 4th game in 6 nights -- they were off the previous 12 days.
 
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kilowatt said:
A win's a win, not going to be upset about it. Some negatives from this game, some positives. One big one: Kaliyev played 16:17! Lizotte, Lemieux, and Arvidsson had more time on ice than Danault though, which is odd. Given ice time distribution, our lines were actually:

Iafallo - Kopitar - Kempe
Lemieux - Lizotte - Kaliyev
Moore - Danault - Arvidsson


Grundstrom - Turcotte - Kupari

What's odd is that I actually thought Turcotte's line looked good. Defensively responsible but mostly played in the offensive zone. Kupari looked pretty good at wing and Turcotte was a monster in the face-off dot. Two of the face-offs he actually won back but didn't get enough support from the wingers.

Anyway, Kopitar's 26:14 was only 15 seconds shy of Doughty's game-high 26:39, riddle me that. JT Miller led Canucks forwards in ice time with 22:32, a reasonable time on ice given an overtime game.

But hey, we won. Stopped a seven game streak to boot. Good bounce back, but it shouldn't have been that close in the first place.
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Canucks played last night and the Kings escaped with the 2nd point in a crap shoot skills competition shootout. Hardly a win, but by NHL rules they got 2 points tonight. Goal scoring is a major issue for this team. TMac's coaching aint getting more offense from this roster and that is what the Kings need if they are trying to grab a wild card spot. I have seen ppl say the team needs another d-man with experience. That is only so if it's a scoring d-man because the Kings hardly get any scoring from their back end.
 
Raccoon Jesus said:
Some good at least, Lizotte was absolutely beast mode. Lemieux doing his thing as usual. Doughty appears to be getting better, thankfully. And until that one shift late in the third with youth-y jitters, Durzi-Bjornfot was pretty godly.

And Kempe is fully our best forward for the season, imo is fulfilling his potential right now. The guy is absolutely dominant at times and has figured out how to not just USE his size and speed but how to time it to be unstoppable too (all those late-play jumpins tonight were higher IQ plays than he typically made before).
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Maybe his old man was right.
 
Kings dominated this game. If it wasn't for Halak's horseshoe it would of been over after 2.
Turcotte looked confident. Good sign there. Keep the kids coming.
 
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kilowatt said:
A win's a win, not going to be upset about it. Some negatives from this game, some positives. One big one: Kaliyev played 16:17! Lizotte, Lemieux, and Arvidsson had more time on ice than Danault though, which is odd. Given ice time distribution, our lines were actually:

Iafallo - Kopitar - Kempe
Lemieux - Lizotte - Kaliyev
Moore - Danault - Arvidsson


Grundstrom - Turcotte - Kupari

What's odd is that I actually thought Turcotte's line looked good. Defensively responsible but mostly played in the offensive zone. Kupari looked pretty good at wing and Turcotte was a monster in the face-off dot. Two of the face-offs he actually won back but didn't get enough support from the wingers.

Anyway, Kopitar's 26:14 was only 15 seconds shy of Doughty's game-high 26:39, riddle me that. JT Miller led Canucks forwards in ice time with 22:32, a reasonable time on ice given an overtime game.

But hey, we won. Stopped a seven game streak to boot. Good bounce back, but it shouldn't have been that close in the first place.
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Danault didn't play as much because he's just coming back from Covid. See DD on Tuesday.
 
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Axl Rhoadz said:
Right on, I'll take that bet.

Just came to read the comments and make sure nobody complimented TM for a nice comeback after the VGK game. We only like to dog the guy, right?
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He had them come out prepared which was nice. His in game management is his downfall and we saw it from an opposing viewpoint when he coached the Sharks to a chokejob of epic proportions. I liked him at first but by now I cant wait until hes gone. Ive never seen a coach directly to blame for a loss like that overtime game vs Tampa a couple weeks ago and tonight he was lucky Vancouver was gassed by the end of the regulation/overtime.
 
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HookKing said:
Not a factor at all, its not like they were playing there 4th game in 6 nights -- they were off the previous 12 days.
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When a team plays the night before and you are the fresher team, you try to get them early. Kings did that to a certain extent, yet couldn't score goals worth shit. This team lacks goal scoring finish and smart hockey IQ in how to shoot the puck on net. Saw a lot of low shots on Halak. Kings didn't smartly shoot high on him enough.
 
Axl Rhoadz said:
Right on, I'll take that bet.

Just came to read the comments and make sure nobody complimented TM for a nice comeback after the VGK game. We only like to dog the guy, right?
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uhhh

he made more questionable personnel decisions, followed it up with a 26 minute night for kopi and benching turcotte for no discernable reason, a game in which they couldn't beat a team we're only ahead of on loser points, and damn near threw it anyway

i'm going to hold off on fondling his balls, thanks. as RJ said earlier this season, they seem to win in spite of him, not because of him
 
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SherVaughn30 said:
When a team plays the night before and you are the fresher team, you try to get them early. Kings did that to a certain extent, yet couldn't score goals worth shit. This team lacks goal scoring finish and smart hockey IQ in how to shoot the puck on net. Saw a lot of low shots on Halak. Kings didn't smartly shoot high on him enough.
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Again, when you are off the previous 12 days you are not fatigued on a B 2 B.
 
tny760 said:
uhhh

he made more questionable personnel decisions, followed it up with a 26 minute night for kopi and benching turcotte for no discernable reason, a game in which they couldn't beat a team we're only ahead of on loser points, and damn near threw it anyway

i'm going to hold off on fondling his balls, thanks. as RJ said earlier this season, they seem to win in spite of him, not because of him
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Cool, just making sure he's responsible for the losses and then has nothing to do with the wins. I'm clear now, thx.
 
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Axl Rhoadz said:
Right on, I'll take that bet.

Just came to read the comments and make sure nobody complimented TM for a nice comeback after the VGK game. We only like to dog the guy, right?
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tny760 said:
uhhh

he made more questionable personnel decisions, followed it up with a 26 minute night for kopi and benching turcotte for no discernable reason, a game in which they couldn't beat a team we're only ahead of on loser points, and damn near threw it anyway

i'm going to hold off on fondling his balls, thanks. as RJ said earlier this season, they seem to win in spite of him, not because of him
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I mean the bigger thing was I complimented him and quite a few others earlier on in the thread too, but at this point @Axl Rhoadz at least admitted he's only here to see what he wants to see, so :dunno:

Tm did a great job making sure they were much more prepared to play and this is one of the only nights I could say the 'identity' really shone through.

Counterbalanced by his absolutely shitty lineup decisions late in the game and his continued, visible inability to adjust.

That being said have won 3 of the last 4 home games and right now the VGK game is looking like the aberration so flip a coin and see what Kings team shows up on Saturday!
 
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All that being said, the Canucks were also lucky to be in the spot they were...I just hate that we have to say that so frequently.



Great performance by Halak, too.

The Turcotte line was 9 SCF, 3 against for a 75% scoring chance percentage. That's pretty god damn good.
 
HookKing said:
Again, when you are off the previous 12 days you are not fatigued on a B 2 B.
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Guess you didn't pay attention to the Canucks win over the Ducks last night coming from 1-0 behind in the 3rd period and winning it in OT. Gibson almost stole the game, but as I said you can't win games 1-0 in today's NHL. Kings should have lost tonight because of their lack of goal scoring. Halak made some good saves, but I thought the Kings had a good amount of poor shot quality for the amount of shots they had.
 
SherVaughn30 said:
Guess you didn't pay attention to the Canucks win over the Ducks last night coming from 1-0 behind in the 3rd period and winning it in OT. Gibson almost stole the game, but as I said you can't win games 1-0 in today's NHL. Kings should have lost tonight because of their lack of goal scoring. Halak made some good saves, but I thought the Kings had a good amount of poor shot quality for the amount of shots they had.
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I actually think this is one of the rare nights where they generated some really excellent chances. Just off the top of my head I can think of a crossbar by Grundstrom, a missed open net by turcotte, two great cutback saves by Halak on an otherwise-unstoppable Kempe. Halak was just in full command of his body tonight and made a lot of it look easy.

Hell they could have had even more great shots if they didn't overpass some of the oddman breaks through the first half of the game.
 
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SherVaughn30 said:
Guess you didn't pay attention to the Canucks win over the Ducks last night coming from 1-0 behind in the 3rd period and winning it in OT. Gibson almost stole the game, but as I said you can't win games 1-0 in today's NHL. Kings should have lost tonight because of their lack of goal scoring. Halak made some good saves, but I thought the Kings had a good amount of poor shot quality for the amount of shots they had.
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What the hell are you talking about?
 
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also lol

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from moneypuck for those that aren't familiar with it
 
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