Speculation: 2021-22 LA Kings News, Rumors, Roster Thread Part VI

[regulate]

Vilardi HAS to improve in the circle. His offensive prowess is wasted if he can't win the faceoff. What is his % in the AHL this season? Honest question. He's a -4 overall.

AHL does not release face off stats (strange but true) with it's stats. Only an insider would have that info.

 

[KingLB]

Pinelli has at least another season, so Kitchener can try to hold on for one more season if they think they can compete next season.

Chromiak is difficult by sheer nature of being an import, and there are only so many teams can have.

That, and withWright likely in the NHL next year, they have to go for it this year.

 

[The Lukeman]

Since the Oilers lost again, Kings are sitting 1 point behind the Oilers for a wild card spot and neither team has games in hand. Nice.

 

[ScoreZeGoals]

Wrong thread

 

[Axl Rhoadz]

Since the Oilers lost again, Kings are sitting 1 point behind the Oilers for a wild card spot and neither team has games in hand. Nice.

Blake and TM firing on hold?

 

[bmr]

Kings need some size to help match up better. Lawson Crouse is a guy who might be available and could go head to head against guys like Marcus Foligno. He’s 24 yo, 6’4”, 220lbs and has 8g / 15 pts this season. He’s a real good 3rd liner who is an RFA with a $1.5M cap hit.

A fair trade may be a B+ prospect, a 2nd round pick and some salary going back. I’d do Kupari, 2nd and Wagner for Crouse.

Throw Chycrun in the mix, and things get better, but, doesn’t mean a deep run is likely anytime soon.

Do we really need another 3rd liner? I know we would have to give up quite a bit to get Chychrun, but I think that would improve the team immensely.

 

[FSL KINGS]

I really want to get behind Chychrun. He has a good shot. Huge upgrade on Maatta & Wolanin. It's his 24 point average per season just killing me. If you take out the covid division year it drops to 20 points average per season. Multiple 1sts being tossed around.

Edit: pretty sure Muzzin put up better numbers

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Blake and TM firing on hold?

They're on double-secret probation

 

[lumbergh]

I really want to get behind Chychrun. He has a good shot. Huge upgrade on Maatta & Wolanin. It's his 24 point average per season just killing me. If you take out the covid division year it drops to 20 points average per season. Multiple 1sts being tossed around.

Edit: pretty sure Muzzin put up better numbers

I’m gonna keep plugging him until it happens, but if Carson Soucy is available, that’s the right target. Already averages 25 points a season. Size, defense, snarl it’s all there. Better player for less.

 

[kingsfan]

Since the Oilers lost again, Kings are sitting 1 point behind the Oilers for a wild card spot and neither team has games in hand. Nice.

And we're 15-7-4 since our 1-5-1 start, which is a .654 winning percentage, good enough for 10th in the league -and 3rd in the Western Conference- but some people still wanna play the kids and trade the vets.

I really want to get behind Chychrun. He has a good shot. Huge upgrade on Maatta & Wolanin. It's his 24 point average per season just killing me. If you take out the covid division year it drops to 20 points average per season. Multiple 1sts being tossed around.

Edit: pretty sure Muzzin put up better numbers

- Chychrun is just 23. At 23 Muzzin was in his second full minor league season with 11 games under his belt. Chychrun right now is light years ahead of Muzzin.
- The ceiling isn't comparable. You'd be trading for potential as well as reality, not to mention it's several years before he can even test UFA. That all costs more.
- Saying he averages 24 points a season is misleading given injuries his first couple of seasons and the most recent two being cut way short by COVID. He's got a .405 PPG which would be 33 points per 82 games. The most recent three seasons (including the current one) his PPG is .510, or good for 42 points per 82 games.
- His most recent full season he had 41 points in 56 games and was 10th in Norris voting, including one first place vote. He was also second in scoring on the entire team.

I'd gladly pay three 1sts and a decent/good prospect for him and not blink. He's a top pairing defenseman who has done really well given the situation he's been put in (not just taling this season either). You aren't getting a guy that good without writing a big cheque and likely the only reason he's still on Arizona is he's not even being made available by them.

 

[johnjm22]

I could see the Kings trading for and Edler type replacement if they stay in the playoff hunt.

Besides that the only other move I could seeing being made is clearing up some space by moving an excess forward or two.

But sometimes a big trade will come out of no where, so you never know.

 

[johnjm22]

I'd gladly pay three 1sts and a decent/good prospect for him and not blink. He's a top pairing defenseman who has done really well given the situation he's been put in (not just taling this season either). You aren't getting a guy that good without writing a big cheque and likely the only reason he's still on Arizona is he's not even being made available by them.

We'd have him for 3.5 seasons before he's a UFA.

 

[FSL KINGS]

And we're 15-7-4 since our 1-5-1 start, which is a .654 winning percentage, good enough for 10th in the league -and 3rd in the Western Conference- but some people still wanna play the kids and trade the vets.



- Chychrun is just 23. At 23 Muzzin was in his second full minor league season with 11 games under his belt. Chychrun right now is light years ahead of Muzzin.
- The ceiling isn't comparable. You'd be trading for potential as well as reality, not to mention it's several years before he can even test UFA. That all costs more.
- Saying he averages 24 points a season is misleading given injuries his first couple of seasons and the most recent two being cut way short by COVID. He's got a .405 PPG which would be 33 points per 82 games. The most recent three seasons (including the current one) his PPG is .510, or good for 42 points per 82 games.
- His most recent full season he had 41 points in 56 games and was 10th in Norris voting, including one first place vote. He was also second in scoring on the entire team.

I'd gladly pay three 1sts and a decent/good prospect for him and not blink. He's a top pairing defenseman who has done really well given the situation he's been put in (not just taling this season either). You aren't getting a guy that good without writing a big cheque and likely the only reason he's still on Arizona is he's not even being made available by them.

The
Injuries are something that needs to be factored in with Chychrun. He averages around 58 games a season. He has missed a ton of time.

He put up 18 goals 41 points in the Pacific division. That's great for a D. Nurse put up 16 goals last year & is back to 2 goals this year I believe.

My concern is his durability & if there was something going on with D scoring last year playing the same teams over & over.

A lot of risk here that isn't talked about.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

And we're 15-7-4 since our 1-5-1 start, which is a .654 winning percentage, good enough for 10th in the league -and 3rd in the Western Conference- but some people still wanna play the kids and trade the vets.



- Chychrun is just 23. At 23 Muzzin was in his second full minor league season with 11 games under his belt. Chychrun right now is light years ahead of Muzzin.
- The ceiling isn't comparable. You'd be trading for potential as well as reality, not to mention it's several years before he can even test UFA. That all costs more.
- Saying he averages 24 points a season is misleading given injuries his first couple of seasons and the most recent two being cut way short by COVID. He's got a .405 PPG which would be 33 points per 82 games. The most recent three seasons (including the current one) his PPG is .510, or good for 42 points per 82 games.
- His most recent full season he had 41 points in 56 games and was 10th in Norris voting, including one first place vote. He was also second in scoring on the entire team.

I'd gladly pay three 1sts and a decent/good prospect for him and not blink. He's a top pairing defenseman who has done really well given the situation he's been put in (not just taling this season either). You aren't getting a guy that good without writing a big cheque and likely the only reason he's still on Arizona is he's not even being made available by them.

Which is more impressive given the slew of important injuries and illnesses while facing (now) the 4th toughest schedule in the NHL, was 1st for a while till delays threw things off.

Now the 'problem' is how the Kings typically play in favorable situations, like 'at home' and vs 'weaker' teams, haha. But they've set themselves up VERY well and in theory at least will improve as the season goes on with health, youthful growth, and any additions (trades or youth breakins).

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

I’m gonna keep plugging him until it happens, but if Carson Soucy is available, that’s the right target. Already averages 25 points a season. Size, defense, snarl it’s all there. Better player for less.

I'm on board with Soucy even though my preferred target is Lauzon but if we're being honest are any of them really an 'upgrade' on Anderson, Bjornfot? Just more of the same with a little meanness, not top pairing guys by any means. But I guess definite Edler replacements over Wolanin/Maatta.

Chychrun is a surefire top pairing two-way dman of the perfect age to transition between Doughty and Clarke on the top pairing barring any other suprises.

I waver back and forth on Chychrun don't get me wrong but those are two completely different classes of player.

 

[ru4reals]

Looks like Iafallo and Turcotte are on the covid protocol list and may miss a few games. I believe that's what LAKings insider is reporting.

 

[Vino]

I think at this point Gabe should be considered a RW prospect, not a center. They're playing him at right wing as much as they can in Ontario. Hopefully he develops chemistry with Byfield.

At last game (vs. Bakersfield) Vilardi played at left wing with Byfield and RW Frk.

I hope that they try in Ontario sometimes line LW JAD - C Byfield - RW Vilardi. Anderson-Dolan is defensively responsible and is reasonable good front of the net (o-zone) and skilled enough to play with Vilardi/Byfield.

 

[Matt13]

Do we really need another 3rd liner? I know we would have to give up quite a bit to get Chychrun, but I think that would improve the team immensely.

Depends on if you see the direction of the team needing more team toughness.

Although we have a lot of 3rds, none of them check those boxes that that player brings.

 

[kingsfan]

The
Injuries are something that needs to be factored in with Chychrun. He averages around 58 games a season. He has missed a ton of time.

He put up 18 goals 41 points in the Pacific division. That's great for a D. Nurse put up 16 goals last year & is back to 2 goals this year I believe.

My concern is his durability & if there was something going on with D scoring last year playing the same teams over & over.

A lot of risk here that isn't talked about.

And Doughty put up just 8 goals last year and has 3 in 14 games this year. Slice it how you want, he was still on a bad team against NHL competition and as the second leading scorer, likely also focused on a lot more than most defensemen game in, game out. Still posted great numbers. The caliber of competition can only be factored so much into numbers.

The 58 games a season is again, misleading. He's only had the potential to play 70 and 56 games the past two seasons, and 30 this year so far. So of the last 156 possible games he's played 145, including the full season last year. I believe the only reason he missed four games this year was COVID protocols as well, but I can't seem to find that to be sure. If you look at it from a percentage of possible games played, he's averaged 65 games played per 82 games over his career and 76 per 82 over the last two-plus season (2019-2020-present).

 

[verbalkint47]

Depends on if you see the direction of the team needing more team toughness.

Although we have a lot of 3rds, none of them check those boxes that that player brings.

Crouse on the 3rd line with Danault and Lemieux on 4th line would be awesome.
Add a player like Lauzon (like RJ mentioned) on the 3rd pair to replace Maata and this team would actually have some balls.
I might even have to start watching them again!

 

[GoldenBearHockey]

Crouse on the 3rd line with Danault and Lemieux on 4th line would be awesome.
Add a player like Lauzon (like RJ mentioned) on the 3rd pair to replace Maata and this team would actually have some balls.
I might even have to start watching them again!

Got a better idea, we should get Borowiecki, OBrien and Lomberg then no one would do anything.....opponents wouldn't take advantage, Kings wouldn't win...it's a win-win right?

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Got a better idea, we should get Borowiecki, OBrien and Lomberg then no one would do anything.....opponents wouldn't take advantage, Kings wouldn't win...it's a win-win right?

Ah yeah replacing Maatta with Lauzon would certainly be the straw that broke this team's back eh

 

[verbalkint47]

Meh I didn't suggest going full Johnny Utah. I think adding a couple more solid players who also bring size and toughness would help with the teams collective state of mind.
Would also be more entertaining as a fan. This team has been the epitome of boring, methodical, impotent hockey the last several years.

 

[Mats26]

I am all in for bringing in some size like Crouse especially if we are in a playoff position and the player fits in long term. We would have to move Lias Andersson or Grundstrom as part of the deal.

 

[tbrown33]

What is Alex Turcotte's future with the Kings? Should veterans be traded now? What's up with Martin Frk?: Mailbag

do reporters for this team know they are allowed to ask questions? this is f***ing ridiculous.