Injury Report: 2021/22 Injury Thread Part II of ∞

[AnimalMother73]

We can’t have nice things so frustrating and sad

 

[MacKaRant]

It is too early for that, but things are gonna have to change. Avs need to get him to a specialist (send him to Crosby's guy) and just let the process take however long it does. Byram will have to tone down his game so he isn't targeted as much. I hate to say it too... Bryam needs a bigger, physical partner to help him out in that department as well. Hopefully Helleson will pan out and develop more nasty to his game. Take the focus off Byram on the pairing.

I would have hoped that the Avs would have set up Byram with a concussion specialist either last season considering the extent of his symptoms as reported in The Athletic or after the Horvat elbow this season. It's not only his playing career at stake, but more importantly his quality of life post-hockey.

 

[Bill Peckerskull]

My daughter has had 4 concussions in the last 5 years playing volleyball. She has a sensitivity to light, especially fluorescent light which makes going to school suck, and chronic headaches now. On 2 different meds for the headaches. She sees a concussion therapist, a chiropractor, an acupuncturist, a massage therapist, and still has issues. Never knows what days things will flare up and she'll be down and out for a day or two. Bo very well could be dealing with with these things too... possibably for the rest of his life.

 

[Bill Peckerskull]

I would have hoped that the Avs would have set up Byram with a concussion specialist either last season considering the extent of his symptoms as reported in The Athletic or after the Horvat elbow this season. It's not only his playing career at stake, but more importantly his quality of life post-hockey.

They probably did.

 

[SoundwaveIsCharisma]

My daughter has had 4 concussions in the last 5 years playing volleyball. She has a sensitivity to light, especially fluorescent light which makes going to school suck, and chronic headaches now. On 2 different meds for the headaches. She sees a concussion therapist, a chiropractor, an acupuncturist, a massage therapist, and still has issues. Never knows what days things will flare up and she'll be down and out for a day or two. Bo very well could be dealing with with these things too... possibably for the rest of his life.

I still get flare ups from time to time. It’s one of the reasons I was glad Calvert called it a career rather than further risking his long term health

 

[Foppberg]

We really can't have nice things can we. Bo needs to look out for his health first and foremost.

 

[Shane Diesel]

He's an average to above average starting goalie. Meaning he is in the 10-20 range league wide. The stats can get skewed on goalies really easily. You could easily make a statistical argument that Gibson is barely a starting level NHL goalie... but eye test is pretty clear he's a top 5 guy. This year he's been the best goalie in the league. That said, I'd expect Kuemper to have those GSAX numbers being in that range. 6th was too high, 23rd was too low... 13th is about right. Arizona was a bad team, but a team well structured defensively to overcome his issues (beyond health). He faced a good amount of shots from far out and didn't have many rush opportunities against. He gave up plenty of rebounds, but he's pretty good in close with his legs. Kuemper's weakness are plays off the rush and the 15-25' sweet spot where players can pinpoint the upper part of the net. The Avs' system will naturally give up some rush chances and Kuemper is struggling with those. They also rely on goalies to make that ~20' save fairly routinely. The big difference between Grubauer's play last year and Kuemper's this year is the rush... Grubi was excellent off the rush and Kuemper hasn't been. Both have their mid range struggles, just on different sides of the net.

Baffle 'em with bullshit, it's certainly a good method when the numbers don't back up the assertion.

 

[The Abusement Park]

Over the past three years prior to this one Kuemper was tied with Vasilevskiy for fifth best save percentage in the entire NHL (minimum 30 games played).

NHL Stats

GSAX (minimum 10 games per season)
2018-2019 - 13th out of 70 qualifying goaltenders
2019-2020 - 6th out of 65 qualifying goaltenders
2020-2021 - 23rd out of 66 qualifying goaltenders

NHL Goalie Statistics

I have no clue what you consider average, but nothing about his most recent body of work aligns with the label.

So Chris Driedger is the best goalie in the NHL currently then correct?

 

[Balthazar]

 

[the_fan]

How do you go from 2 days to a month? Doesn't make sense

 

[Northern Avs Fan]

I haven’t really worried about Byram’s concussions, but the fact that his symptoms are just popping up when he thinks he’s good to play is not good.

The Avs might have to consider what the Penguins did with Crosby at some point here.

 

[Muffin]

How do you go from 2 days to a month? Doesn't make sense

Sounds like they both have concussions.

 

[The Abusement Park]

That's literally the answer everyone here gives when an one of the Avs gets injured. But it's in jest. The f***.

 

[the_fan]

Sounds like they both have concussions.

Yeah, that just sucks. Kuemper also has a history of concussion

 

[Balthazar]

Someone concussed the #1 goalie during the morning free skate. Aint that something.

 

[RECKLESS]

Why are people getting mad at Bednars comments.
It literally could be anything with concussions.

Let's just hope and pray the boys will be alright. Sooner than later.

 

[S E P H]

Someone concussed the #1 goalie during the morning free skate. Aint that something.

Some of our worst injuries have taken place in the practice; Francouz, Rantanen, EJ I believe, and now Byram and Kuemper.

 

[The Kingslayer]

I haven’t really worried about Byram’s concussions, but the fact that his symptoms are just popping up when he thinks he’s good to play is not good.

The Avs might have to consider what the Penguins did with Crosby at some point here.

Shut him down. Look for d help if you can find it on the low or just play Macdonald.

 

[the_fan]

Bednar did say Byram doesn't have a concussion, so he's either lying or it's true and Byram has something else

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

How do you go from 2 days to a month? Doesn't make sense

Concussions for both, pretty straightforward really. And that's the one injury where you really cant have a timeline.



The only good news I would say out of this for Kuemper is that it's not his groin or a knee injury. I dont know his injury history but I dont think he's had a concussion anytime recently? Obviously with concussions you just never know how long they take to recover but hopefully its a short term deal for him.

EDIT: Looks like Darcy missed some time back in 2016 with a concussion but I dont see anything since then.

Bednar did say Byram doesn't have a concussion, so he's either lying or it's true and Byram has something else

Well, not exactly. He said it was related to his last injury but that he doesn't have a concussion now. I'd interpret that as meaning its either symptoms from his previous one that perhaps never really fully went away and got worse today(In which case our medical staff should be fired), or he's suffering from some sort of related issue to the concussion. Someone mentioned Vertigo and that would make sense. Or something with his neck like what Crosby went through.

Either way even if its not a concussion, its definitely related to his last concussion and thus no idea how long he's going to be out for.

 

[Arto Kilponen]

How do you go from 2 days to a month? Doesn't make sense

The "month"-part was just made up. Especially Byram can be in a situation that anything from "he plays against Senators" to "his hockey playing career is over" is possible. The month i.e. January 3rd means absolutely nothing.

 

[teoberto]

With the Avs it’s never 2 days. Better looking around for another starter at this point.

 

[The Pwnerer]

Didn't Keumper get hurt by a shot? A concussion caused by a shot would be really bizarre and rare. Hate to speculate but I was thinking more on the lines of a shot that may have hit him in the neck area or thigh where there is no protection. That comment is as vague as ever. Classic Avs news.

 

[RickyLafleur]

This is a nightmare that keeps on running for years now.....

I've never seen a professionell sports team that injury-prone and riddled for years now......And, of course unlucky.

If it's indeed concussion-related, Byram's short career is allready in jeopardy....

Unbelievable....

Sucks because these are their contending years and they keep getting injured, although Its arguable that Pittsburgh has had worse injury troubles over the past decade, has that team ever been fully healthy?

 

[Metallo]

As sad as it is, my mindset on Byram is that any games he plays is a bonus. Avs should not make any roster decisions (like trade G) based on his availability this year or for the future.