Speculation: 2021-21 LA Kings News/Rumors/Roster discussion

[Fishhead]

Oh, maybe. I honestly don't remember.

If he's going against the advice of even his own doctor, then that's his right, but I wonder what he hopes to accomplish.

Well, he wants his cake and to eat it too. If he got a newer procedure where there isn't data on whether it can hold up to the rigors of the NHL, it pretty much puts all the risk on whatever team is paying him. Even at this early point in his career he's young and has already made a ton of cash, so he may be hesitant to get something performed that might solve the issue in the short term yet lead to issues down the line.

Just guessing at his mind here, but those are things I would consider. There is probably not a right answer or solution.

 

[Kingspiracy]

Oh, maybe. I honestly don't remember.

If he's going against the advice of even his own doctor, then that's his right, but I wonder what he hopes to accomplish.

Is he using it to help get his way out of Buffalo. Perhaps he changes his mind and goes for the more proven surgery once hes in new team colours.

 

[Mats26]

They're up to 49 out of a possible 50 contracts with the Grans signing. Time for some spring\summer cleaning.

 

[Kingfan1967]

Well they are losing one to Seattle so they are really at 48 . They have 4 RFA's and only 1 UFA

RFA's
Athanasiou, Andreas
Lizotte, Blake
Moore, Trevor
Luff, Matt

UFA
Wolanin, Christian

Any trades LA makes will be a quantity for quality trade which will reduce the contract limit even more.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

They're up to 49 out of a possible 50 contracts with the Grans signing. Time for some spring\summer cleaning.

But that includes contracts that haven't expired yet. I expect a number of RFAs won't be qualified. Overall, the Kings have 15 free agents, plus they'll be losing a contract in the expansion draft.

 

[Johnny Utah]

Please let Lizotte go

 

[Lt Dan]

 

[HookKing]

Forget about Eichel. Eichel is gone. There is no more Eichel.

 

[Mats26]

Well they are losing one to Seattle so they are really at 48 . They have 4 RFA's and only 1 UFA

RFA's
Athanasiou, Andreas
Lizotte, Blake
Moore, Trevor
Luff, Matt

UFA
Wolanin, Christian

Any trades LA makes will be a quantity for quality trade which will reduce the contract limit even more.

No they have: 11 RFAs + 4 UFAs

Say Clague gets picked by Seattle.
You would think they sign Andersson, Moore, Lizotte, Strand, AA and Moverare that puts them at 54. 48+6 .


They still need to shed some dead weight by letting a few RFAs \UFAs go. 4-5 of them.

 

[redcard]

They're up to 49 out of a possible 50 contracts with the Grans signing. Time for some spring\summer cleaning.

Technically already at 50, as Jordan Spence was exempt last season but won't be next season.

We're going to lose a player to the expansion draft, and Luff, Wolanin, Imama, Rymsha, Eyssimont, Brickley, Alt, and Grosenick's contracts are all up. I can't imagine more than 2 or 3 of them being re-signed to NHL deals.

So that'll put us somewhere between 41-44 SPCs

Hrenak and Shafigullin are the last guys from the 2018 draft without a contract. Parik, Nousiainen, Doyle, and Lee from 2019. Everyone but QB and Grans from 2020 of course.

Hrenak has done 4 years at St. Cloud and I'm not sure where Parik will be playing, he might be able to go back to Spokane as an overager?
Either way I expect 1 to be signed to join Villalta and Ingham to give us 3 AHL/ECHL guys.

Its possible Nousiainen comes over from Finland to join Ontario and would need a contract, but everyone else probably stays where they are for another season.

So should be plenty of SPC room for Blake to go out and make additions if he wants to.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

So either the Kings make a pitch for Landeskog, or land the next Erik Rasmussen.

 

[Mats26]

Technically already at 50, as Jordan Spence was exempt last season but won't be next season.

We're going to lose a player to the expansion draft, and Luff, Wolanin, Imama, Rymsha, Eyssimont, Brickley, Alt, and Grosenick's contracts are all up. I can't imagine more than 2 or 3 of them being re-signed to NHL deals.

So that'll put us somewhere between 41-44 SPCs

Hrenak and Shafigullin are the last guys from the 2018 draft without a contract. Parik, Nousiainen, Doyle, and Lee from 2019. Everyone but QB and Grans from 2020 of course.

Hrenak has done 4 years at St. Cloud and I'm not sure where Parik will be playing, he might be able to go back to Spokane as an overager?
Either way I expect 1 to be signed to join Villalta and Ingham to give us 3 AHL/ECHL guys.

Its possible Nousiainen comes over from Finland to join Ontario and would need a contract, but everyone else probably stays where they are for another season.

So should be plenty of SPC room for Blake to go out and make additions if he wants to.

I just saw that Grans signed his 3-year deal today too.

 

[SettlementRichie10]

Who in their right mind is going to sign in LA right now or waive an NTC? Even during the golden years we had problems getting players to come here.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

Who in their right mind is going to sign in LA right now or waive an NTC? Even during the golden years we had problems getting players to come here.

What's interesting is how often some big names are linked to LA, like the suggestions of Eichel or Seth Jones to LA from reputable journalists.

 

[Lt Dan]

So either the Kings make a pitch for Landeskog, or land the next Erik Rasmussen.

I don't think Landeskog goes anywhere.
Saad should be out target

 

[redcard]

I just saw that Grans signed his 3-year deal today too.

Yeah, I counted Grans but forgot about Tkachev.

So:

36 players currently under contract for 21-22

AA, Lizotte, Moore, Lias, Clague, Strand, Moverare all probably locks to be re-signed = 43

-1 for expansion draft = 42

Luff, Wolanin, Imama, Rymsha, Eyssimont, Brickley, Alt, Grosenick, do we bother re-signing any to NHL deals? Maybe Wolanin? Maybe a 1 year last shot for Eyssimont? call it +2 for = 44

One of Hrenak or Parik and maybe Nousiainen joining Ontario = 46

 

[SettlementRichie10]

What's interesting is how often some big names are linked to LA, like the suggestions of Eichel or Seth Jones to LA from reputable journalists.

I guess we'll see. I remember back in 2010, Dreger was saying right up to the end that Kovalchuk to LA was a real possibility. Turns out he was just using LA as leverage against NJ. Idk. We can all hope, I guess.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

I guess we'll see. I remember back in 2010, Dreger was saying right up to the end that Kovalchuk to LA was a real possibility. Turns out he was just using LA as leverage against NJ. Idk. We can all hope, I guess.

It took a crazy stupid offer that the league forced New Jersey to restructure (and also penalized) to get Kovalchuk to sign there.

Even Brad Richards admitted the Kings made a very tempting offer and it sounded like it was down to LA or NY when he was a UFA.

There was also Hossa and Chara who were both allegedly close to considering the Kings. I think in previous years, the Kings did demonstrate some restraint in not being bound to regrettable contracts through preposterous UFA offers.

Their biggest splurge has been on re-signing their own, and in terms of UFAs, it’s been the Kovalchuk contract, and prior to him, it was guys like Mitchell, Scuderi, Handzus.

I only see two UFAs who are worth long-term deals, and that’s Landeskog or Hamilton. All the others would seem to fall in line with the Handzus/Nagy/Preissing/Stuart like signings.

 

[Yog S'loth]

I only see two UFAs who are worth long-term deals, and that’s Landeskog or Hamilton. All the others would seem to fall in line with the Handzus/Nagy/Preissing/Stuart like signings.

What's funny is just how dramatically superior those types of signings all work out compared to the long-term deals.

I'd easily take and of those "bridge" players over the brain-smashing disasters 98% of big budget long-term deals turn out to be.

 

[HookKing]

Who in their right mind is going to sign in LA right now or waive an NTC? Even during the golden years we had problems getting players to come here.

Its a different world now, how many desirable teams have the cap space to do all that much shopping?

 

[tomd]

It took a crazy stupid offer that the league forced New Jersey to restructure (and also penalized) to get Kovalchuk to sign there.

Even Brad Richards admitted the Kings made a very tempting offer and it sounded like it was down to LA or NY when he was a UFA.

There was also Hossa and Chara who were both allegedly close to considering the Kings. I think in previous years, the Kings did demonstrate some restraint in not being bound to regrettable contracts through preposterous UFA offers.

Their biggest splurge has been on re-signing their own, and in terms of UFAs, it’s been the Kovalchuk contract, and prior to him, it was guys like Mitchell, Scuderi, Handzus.

I only see two UFAs who are worth long-term deals, and that’s Landeskog or Hamilton. All the others would seem to fall in line with the Handzus/Nagy/Preissing/Stuart like signings.

It's going to have to be trades that drive the improvement with the occasional UFA mid-level signing. If there are going to be improvements this summer the big ones will happen around the draft.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

It's going to have to be trades that drive the improvement with the occasional UFA mid-level signing. If there are going to be improvements this summer the big ones will happen around the draft.

I can see Blake trying to find another Pacioretty type of trade, which they almost pulled off at the 2018 draft had Max been willing to sign an extension with the Kings.

 

[deeshamrock]

Didn’t he get his own second opinion that was the same as the team doctors?

Yes, in March. The article I posted above, mentioned it might have been a Dr. K. Daniel Riew,who performed the surgury on a martial artist named Chris Weidman.




The Sabres don't want him to have this surgery. If he decides to go ahead, and violates the terms of his contract, does that mean the Sabres could terminate it?

 

[Ollie Weeks]

Who in their right mind is going to sign in LA right now or waive an NTC? Even during the golden years we had problems getting players to come here.

I’d consider drastically overpaying a guy like Jaden Schwartz for a couple years (just as an example). There might be some UFAs who’d take a short term payday with a much higher AAV than normal, bet on themselves, and wait for the flat cap to increase for their next contract.

 

[SettlementRichie10]

Has Eichel ever played a full season?

I see a lot of Anthony Davis in him. "Street clothes" Eichel