Speculation: 2021-21 LA Kings News, Rumors, Roster discussion part V

[Eagle Fang]

I am a big Brown defender and even I think this is a bad idea.

It's kind of scary that everyone thinks it's a bad idea except for the guy who actually makes the decision.

 

[Little Psycho]

At this point he's just sabotaging the team. He's still pissed about the reverse sweep.

@Sol has that rocketship left yet?

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Also--Clague benched and Maatta MOVED UP

 

[FSL KINGS]

Kopi, Brown are better together. Splitting them tanks 2 lines. Kempe draws the short straw here.

Biggest need is an exit strategy for Kopi. Can't have 2 more years of, "can't bench the capitan" like we are seeing with Brown.

 

[YP44]

Kopi, Brown are better together. Splitting them tanks 2 lines. Kempe draws the short straw here.

Biggest need is an exit strategy for Kopi. Can't have 2 more years of, "can't bench the capitan" like we are seeing with Brown.

That is the only thing that TM could be thinking that makes any sort of sense. Still I don't buy it.

Iafallo-Kopitar-Arvidson
Kempe-Danault-Kaliyev/Grundsrom
Lemieux-Lizotte-Grundstrom/Kaliyev
Brown-Anderson-Kupari

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

So, this is what tanking looks like.

 

[tny760]

So, this is what tanking looks like.

i think i remember RJ saying a few weeks back something like we were "winning in spite of tmac" and i think it just misunderstood it at the time.. he is trying to tank and i was just ignorant to it until now

 

[unicornpig]

feel like the worst case scenario for this year will happen. not good enough to make playoffs but not bad enough to get a lotter pick. TM won't give the kids bigger roles until 60 games in when the playoffs are out of sight......

 

[KINGS17]

Kopitar is DFL in +/- for the Kings. Not a great sign.

 

[King'sPawn]

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Just out of curiosity, which web site shows this data?

If I missed it somewhere I apologize. I'd like to look up some comparative data, too. Thank you ahead of time.

Edit: Thank you!

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

i think i remember RJ saying a few weeks back something like we were "winning in spite of tmac" and i think it just misunderstood it at the time.. he is trying to tank and i was just ignorant to it until now

I remember a lot of "doesn't matter we're winning" being the retort, but those folks aren't providing me with their thoughts now

I don't want it to be an "I told you so" moment, I just want to know what the thought process is when we ARENT on a winning streak over losing/struggling teams propped up by unsustainably good goaltending, I called it fool's gold at the time, but they almost even fooled me once they got to 7/beat the snot out of TO at home.

It's starting to look unfortunately a LOT like last season--which shouldn't be a surprise when it's largely the same team--but of a team that can put up great runs of play but STILL can't score, gives up leads in the third period, finds ways to lose points but almost never finds a way to win a point--gets scored on with an EN, never scores with an EN. PP actively loses games. I remember looking good for a lot of it until guys got frustrated with 'playing good but not winning' then exhaustion set in and the wheels fell the f*** off. How will we avoid that this season, and if we don't, how will we deal with it? Can you imagine what happens when Quick is only putting up .920 consistently instead of .950?

So far, the answer is to keep trying what's failed so many times in the last 4 years...

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Kopitar is DFL in +/- for the Kings. Not a great sign.

Dustin Brown to the rescue!

 

[Peter James Bond II]

I honestly wonder if they are wanting Kopi to get pissed and go to front office or Todd and inform them what 92% of 6.72 billion on earth can see (the 8% that cannot see it, are 23 for life fans here that cannot see anything critically)
that 23 is done. more than burnt dinner. Has he ever been pissed?

Urban Dictionary
'Brown-Lined' and 'Brown-Holed; together:
new, #1 top definition
"shttt, looks like Kopitar got Brown-Lined again....and Kupari got Brown-Holed, after being Brown-Lined"

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

I wouldn't be mad a day in my life if I were Anze Kopitar, no matter how competitive. I'd have a 10 million dollar mansion in Manhattan Beach, stay fit and play a game I love for a living, and enjoy relative obscurity from the masses but reverence from a small crowd.

You want to trade me? Nah it's okay, go ahead and bench me or put the worst players on the rink with me, doesn't matter. I'm gonna go home and play xbox by the firepit overlooking the Pacific Ocean while you guys lose your jobs.

 

[Schrute farms]

I wouldn't be mad a day in my life if I were Anze Kopitar, no matter how competitive. I'd have a 10 million dollar mansion in Manhattan Beach, stay fit and play a game I love for a living, and enjoy relative obscurity from the masses but reverence from a small crowd.

You want to trade me? Nah it's okay, go ahead and bench me or put the worst players on the rink with me, doesn't matter. I'm gonna go home and play xbox by the firepit overlooking the Pacific Ocean while you guys lose your jobs.

And two time SC champion to boot. Great player, rich, plays a game that he loves for a living, healthy and has hockey scoreboard for life. Yeah life is good for Kopi

 

[kings11]

I remember a lot of "doesn't matter we're winning" being the retort, but those folks aren't providing me with their thoughts now

I don't want it to be an "I told you so" moment, I just want to know what the thought process is when we ARENT on a winning streak over losing/struggling teams propped up by unsustainably good goaltending, I called it fool's gold at the time, but they almost even fooled me once they got to 7/beat the snot out of TO at home.

It's starting to look unfortunately a LOT like last season--which shouldn't be a surprise when it's largely the same team--but of a team that can put up great runs of play but STILL can't score, gives up leads in the third period, finds ways to lose points but almost never finds a way to win a point--gets scored on with an EN, never scores with an EN. PP actively loses games. I remember looking good for a lot of it until guys got frustrated with 'playing good but not winning' then exhaustion set in and the wheels fell the f*** off. How will we avoid that this season, and if we don't, how will we deal with it? Can you imagine what happens when Quick is only putting up .920 consistently instead of .950?

So far, the answer is to keep trying what's failed so many times in the last 4 years...

Well that depends… shitty reply but the team is better than last season, they have assets that can be packaged for something useful, we’ve had some very unfortunate injuries and some young players have stepped up in a huge way on D..
With that said, I expect Maatta to kick rocks, AA, Kempe and Grundstromto get traded, Kaliyev and Kupari to get sent down to round out his games.. I expect to see Turcotte, JAD and Frk to be on the big club around the halfway point. Byfield needs to go to Ontario for conditioning annnnnnnd Brown need to be on the bottom 6 but preferably a healthy scratch..
positives though few, are how Bjornfot and Anderson have played with a heavy workload. Pepe and Lizotte have been spectacular! Quick looks rejuvenated, maybe the short seasons have helped him?
I know you and a few posters have harked on how management is misusing the kids and have compared there development to Anaheim. But that’s a huge mistake, they have a pretty good, consistent defense which we don’t and there best prospects are playing… which we don’t have because of injury..
Doughty will add a lot to the defense, assuming Quick holds up. Kopi is still Kopi and the 2nd line will get it going again..
I expect significant changes before and at the TDL.. this team will definitely look different at years end.

 

[Docgonzo]

This is the point when I alway hate that our media coverage people are too nice. Wish someone would ask why does Brown get a promotion or Maatta in over Clague when we need offense from the backend. Or what benefit does it have to bury Kaliyev on the 4th line and not send him back to AHL.

Feel our reporters and bloggers are too close to the players to hurt their feelings.

 

[FrozenKing18]

I am a big Brown defender and even I think this is a bad idea.

DB has been my favorite LA King since I became a Kings fan and yeah his 1st line duties should be over.

This is beyond frustrating. Seeing Kaliyev plugged into the 4th line is aggravating too.

 

[tny760]

This is the point when I alway hate that our media coverage people are too nice. Wish someone would ask why does Brown get a promotion or Maatta in over Clague when we need offense from the backend. Or what benefit does it have to bury Kaliyev on the 4th line and not send him back to AHL.

Feel our reporters and bloggers are too close to the players to hurt their feelings.

poke too much and you might go the way of rich hammond or jon rosen, unfortunately

 

[ru4reals]

So, this is what tanking looks like.

Nothing new I believe we've been doing this for the past 4 seasons.

 

[ibleedkings]

I remember a lot of "doesn't matter we're winning" being the retort, but those folks aren't providing me with their thoughts now

I don't want it to be an "I told you so" moment, I just want to know what the thought process is when we ARENT on a winning streak over losing/struggling teams propped up by unsustainably good goaltending, I called it fool's gold at the time, but they almost even fooled me once they got to 7/beat the snot out of TO at home.

It's starting to look unfortunately a LOT like last season--which shouldn't be a surprise when it's largely the same team--but of a team that can put up great runs of play but STILL can't score, gives up leads in the third period, finds ways to lose points but almost never finds a way to win a point--gets scored on with an EN, never scores with an EN. PP actively loses games. I remember looking good for a lot of it until guys got frustrated with 'playing good but not winning' then exhaustion set in and the wheels fell the f*** off. How will we avoid that this season, and if we don't, how will we deal with it? Can you imagine what happens when Quick is only putting up .920 consistently instead of .950?

So far, the answer is to keep trying what's failed so many times in the last 4 years...

Yup, I was told to step away from my computer and go get some ''fresh air'' when I continued to question TM and the staff during the winning streak. Some people have no clue what they are watching (fools gold)

 

[Axl Rhoadz]

I remember a lot of "doesn't matter we're winning" being the retort, but those folks aren't providing me with their thoughts now

lol, what kind of validation are you looking for? My thoughts TODAY are pretty much the same as they've been the last 5 years of Kings hockey...not that interested. You guys can bitch and whine all you want despite the results, but when this team is winning and looking good doing it (the 7-game win streak), I'm on the f***ing train all day long. I'll save my depression for days like this when my optimism levels are low.

But again, if we want to look at the positives, they've really only had one stinker in the last 5 games and you guys make it sound like it's the past 3 years all over again...it's not. but you guys are experts because you spend your life on an internet board arguing your points, so you win.

We are only a quarter a way through the season, this is a better team than last year. They aren't supposed to be a playoff team, they are supposed to improve. Long way to go...

 

[kings11]

I’m curious to know what will happen to this team as constructed considering Turc and JAD are starting to force their way onto the Kings, Byfield is closer to a conditioning stint in Ontario and Gabe will likely have played enough games at winger to feel comfortable…
Who realistically gets released/traded/demoted?
You’d think AA is trade bait? Kempe is who he is and does nothing for the top 6, Grandstrom isn’t going to get playing time, Moore is a glue guy but… Lizotte has been fantastic as the 4C with Pepe so do you really really that up?

Ardvisson - Kopitar - Vilardi
Iafallo - Danault - Turcotte
Andersson - Byfield - Brown(I F’n know), Moore should be here
Pepe - Lizotte - JAD

 

[Peter James Bond II]

So the Ducks can get 'ultra mega scrub AHL for lifer 1 year ago ' Sonny Milano scoring 13 points in 16 games and the Kings cannot get any young player in the last decade, scoring
at a clip like that? Not even one of their blue chipper young players? A decade, or more. Maybe it's time to fire the Kings great development staff and steal some of the Ducks dev staff.
Troy Frigging Terry is becoming a real good player now too. Zegras, 11 pts last 11.

Get drafted by the Kings, we'll develop you into offensively neutered, 1-3-1, 200 foot players. That is your future! Playing scared to make mistakes. Please do not
use your creativity, offensive skills and instincts you have and were taught. That does not fly over here....AND keep your eyes on the vets. Follow them. Watch
how Brown moves around the perimeter with such cleverness, not to get hit or go to the paint. Don't go to the slot, you may get slaughtered. We cannot take
the chance of you getting hurt. We need you to be one of the cloned Kings, playing as a 5 man unit that is devoid of creating dangerous chances. We can only
do that as a unit. This will be your future and your success. See Kopi flying out there? Of course not. Do not over exert yourself and play with passion, that's dangerous. Don't even try that shht, it's a quick ticket back to the Reign. Play with Pace'. Our pace is to not play with any. It's an organizational trademark.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

To be honest we're getting into territory where I hope we don't see a Dave Taylor job saver trade, like Vilardi for some vet.