Fitzy
Very Stable Genius
- Jan 29, 2009
- 36,378
- 24,185
Dmen usually take longer than forwards as well.
Hard to say if kravtsov is further along than a Nils lundkvist though.
Prospect Info: 2020 WJC NYR Prospect Speculation
- Thread starter RGY
- Start date
-
Xenforo Cloud will be upgrading us to version 2.3.5 on March 3rd at 12 AM GMT. This version has increased stability and fixes several bugs. We expect downtime for the duration of the update. The admin team will continue to work on existing issues, templates and upgrade all necessary available addons to minimize impact of this new version. Click Here for Updates
Dmen usually take longer than forwards as well.
Hard to say if kravtsov is further along than a Nils lundkvist though.
It’s unreal. I’m still very excited about him. He’s a raw talent with size. Give him time. I’m hoping before he reaches the Rangers he gets another 2 years of development.
You think Knight saw Foote's shot? He didn't even react until the puck was in the net. By the time Miller hit the ice to block the shot, it was past Knight.
There were two players on Lafreniere before Miller jumped to him as well, leaving Hayton wide open on the backside.
I hope he turns it around. We need him to turn it around. Today did not resemble a player who is near cracking the NHL.
ohbaby
Registered User
- Apr 4, 2007
- 3,313
- 3,390
GeorgeKaplan
Registered User
- Aug 5, 2010
- 13,857
- 9,487
Definitely agree on the first point.
Re. Kravtsov vs. Lundqkvist. The Russian is already in NA so he is at least more advanced if you look at it from this perspective.
GeorgeKaplan
Registered User
That's because he's not, and he wasn't last year either. Miller is going to require a lot of patience from fans and the front office, but he's a good enough prospect to repay that patience
redwhiteandblue
Registered User
- Apr 1, 2013
- 1,112
- 1,032
I honestly wondered too if Knight saw that Foote goal. At first I figured it got deflected to the perfect spot, then realized it never touched anyone. After a couple of times after that I was trying to figure out how Knight was so badly beat. I know Foote is good but Knight is suppose to be very very good.
KirkAlbuquerque
#WeNeverGetAGoodCoach
Hoglander already has done it too, just a month ago had the most beautiful goal i've ever seen, he was playing for his SHL team I think.
JimmyG89
Registered User
- May 1, 2010
- 10,143
- 9,025
Exactly. A lot of people were claiming he should turn pro after this season and join the Rangers (was hopefully on this, but never expected it). While that could still happen, the NCAA is still a good league for him to be in. We also do not have to rush him into a bad situation. Ideally we have our current left side next season, with maturity of Lindgren, Hajek, and most likely Rykov, with Skjei being the top guy. There are others in play too, with Reunanen as a dark horse option to make the NHL. Of course, other transactions can be made and we have someone not even on our radar as an option.
We have plenty of others to find out about before Miller has to turn pro or even be ready to do that. Why add a player to the mix when we don't need to? It's the same thing with Lundkvist. Let him stay in Sweden. There is more likely be a RHD spot in Hartford from him than not, but he's still under team control, and with our RHD at the NHL level, there is no need to bring him over yet.
We're at a point of luxury when it comes to our more recent draft selections. We brought in numerous players that are currently 20-22 and are at the NHL or AHL level. While the NHL team isn't ideal at this time, we can actually let our kids develop in lower leagues, without the pressure of forcing them into roles they are not ready for. It's the one thing we're doing right in the rebuild. Nobody is gifted a spot and they are getting demoted if needed.
He does it so darn fast, like under a second from post to post.
I always thinks we make way to big of a deal if supposed “mistakes” by Ds. Not worried about Miller.
Irishguy42
Mr. Preachy
Zac Jones skates at an NHL level imo. Looks a lot like Torey Krug.
I think we gotta a steal on our hands.
I think we gotta a steal on our hands.
Fitzy
Very Stable Genius
- Jan 29, 2009
- 36,378
- 24,185
It is, and as more and more players start trying it out in practice, we're going to have to see how NHL goalies and defenders respond to it.
romba
Registered User
I'd say to the goalies 'how bout not goin down faster than a hooker and a hundy' and then I'd pat myself on the back for the wit and say 'nice job romba'...but honestly I'm not sure if staying upright would even assist getting to the other post in time...so I won't.
- Oct 23, 2014
- 30,342
- 43,029
As much as you gotta rip Miller for that pass, you gotta praise the ability of Laf. He totally baited him and faked like he was gonna stick check him and did a little C-cut and pulled off. Which allowed him enough time and space to bat the puck out of the air.He not only a special player with the puck, but without it too.
Miller was in a tough spot, forced to turn his back. Didn’t wanna give the puck away. A special player made a special play. Shit happens
Calling him a low IQ player for that is funny but unfortunately not unexpected on this forum.
UnSandvich
Registered User
- Sep 7, 2017
- 5,901
- 9,036
I definitely agree.
If you want to evaluate a player, I think it would be best to watch video of the guy playing but edit out the best and worst plays. There is far too much knee jerk reactions at this place. And I don't expect it to get better because of the Lias fiasco.
That goal for example is 100% lack of know-how driven. The top players pick off those passes. Anything within reach is picked off at the NHL level and at this level against Canada. Its not at lower levels. Miller have learned his lesson, big deal.
Yeah K'Andre can get away with that in Hockey East. Not many guys can bait him AND swat the saucer out of mid-air like that. It's obviously a terrible turnover but it's also part of the learning process. If you continue to see that, then it becomes a problem. Isolated instance? Learning experience. He got turned around with two guys on him and didn't know what to do. Result of still being new to the position (and yeah, four or so years is new to defense, when you're playing at a high level).
Sucks it came in that spot, but what can you do?
Sucks it came in that spot, but what can you do?
See he needs to wrap it around the boards there. Very easy play to make. A soft backhand saucer into the slot... that's a dumb play. The alternative option is very easy to process. Put the puck where your man can get it, and the other team has no shot.
That's a difference from a top 4 d-man you win with, and a "work in progress". That's the difference from making $8M a year over term, and needing to earn a show-me contract.
I hope they create a learning package for Key so he can improve on this.
GeorgeKaplan
Registered User
That chaos that comes from players not knowing all the safe plays to make is part of why the WJC is so fun to watch every year too (at least for me)
Shesterkybomb
Registered User
- Dec 30, 2016
- 17,683
- 19,387
Miller will be fine, was impressed with Jones though! Unreal d prospects.
It is an easy play to make, but the situation--skating back towards your own net with a man in your pocket and another to your inside--is not one you encounter a whole lot. And that's the whole thing, you often see Miller make mistakes where there is a "simple" solution, but the plain lack of in-game reps cause him to panic. It's simple once you've encountered it or if you're just naturally gifted, but for guys that are learning, it's not so easy.
That's a lot of what's wrong with the defensive aspects of his game; he panics. But it's from a lack of experience, which is why I'm not particularly concerned. The only thing that he needs to worry about, I think, is that he's going to have to continue learning as he starts his pro career. He's going to be at a big disadvantage because when he gets to the AHL next year or the year after, he'll be learning while the other guys are way ahead on the development curve. It will be a matter of how quickly he can adapt.
EDIT: To add to this, what he attempted wouldn't be unusual for a forward in the offensive end. If he was skating towards the net, lobbing a saucer cross-ice wouldn't be a totally terrible play. If he was skating back to the blue line and tried that cross-ice saucer, he's at least skating back if it's picked off. In neither instance would it be a great play, but you see forwards in the NHL trying to get cute with those saucers across the ice all the damn time. Which just reinforces that his instincts often times default to what he would do as a forward.
Last edited:
