Prospect Info: 2020 WJC NYR Prospect Speculation

[GeorgeKaplan]

Sweden with a PP for the last 1:20 of overtime

 

[ColonialsHockey10]

Miller doesn’t have a low IQ

How would you phrase it then? His positioning is poor?

I see a guy that doesn’t know where the be on the ice most of the time, and is prone to frequent mistakes like that. I’ve seen it plenty at UW. I guess I’d consider that low IQ.

Maybe it’s more him learning the position, but there’s certainly more to it than that.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Miller has been absolutely terrible. Not even counting that turnover, he was the worst player on the US squad.

not even close.

stastny and Samuelsson were worse on the blue line alone.

 

[GeorgeKaplan]

How would you phrase it then? His positioning is poor?

I see a guy that doesn’t know where the be on the ice most of the time, and is prone to frequent mistakes like that. I’ve seen it plenty at UW. I guess I’d consider that low IQ.

You can say it’s low IQ for a guy who’s play defense his whole life, I wouldn’t say that for a guy who’s probably played less than 300 games as a defenseman

 

[GeorgeKaplan]

Sweden wins with 4 seconds left off a great goal by Holtz!

 

[RangersFan1994]

Alexander Holtz Sweden wins 3-2 over Finland in OT

 

[Ail]

Miller was not the worst, but that turnover was a complete back breaker and completely lazy/stupid play.

In any case Canada's talent is far superior AINEC!

 

[QJL]

not even close.

stastny and Samuelsson were worse on the blue line alone.

I can count 3 goals Miller was directly responsible for while contributing nothing offensively. Screened Knight on the Foote goal, played the puck instead of the backside on Hayton’s second goal, and then the terrible turnover to Lafreniere. Pathetic. Samuelsson and Stastney didn’t show much but they didn’t throw the game away.

 

[ColonialsHockey10]

You can say it’s low IQ for a guy who’s play defense his whole life, I wouldn’t say that for a guy who’s probably played less than 300 games as a defenseman

Fair enough.

I see the poster child for “all tools, no toolbox”.

 

[JimmyG89]

Lafreniere also knocked a puck out of the air that was 2 feet off the surface. Crazy hand eye. Miller gave him a chance at it though, but it takes a very high end type of player to make that happen, and he did.

 

[Maximus]

OK fellas...I know a bunch of y'all are prospect junkies and know all about them. I am not one of those types for whatever the reason. I watch my highight packages and I'll watch tournaments like these to get a feel for these young players.

That said, who does Lefrenier remind you of who is playing in the NHL today? From the little I've seen of him, he seems to be a combination of Towes and Bergeron or am I off? He probably is more dynamic than those two but this is first time I've ever seen him live and he was brilliant today.

Who is the comparison for Lefrenier who is playing today? Would love to read opinions....thx

 

[Ola]

OK fellas...I know a bunch of y'all are prospect junkies and know all about them. I am not one of those types for whatever the reason. I watch my highight packages and I'll watch tournaments like these to get a feel for these young players.

That said, who does Lefrenier remind you of who is playing in the NHL today? From the little I've seen of him, he seems to be a combination of Towes and Bergeron or am I off? He probably is more dynamic than those two but this is first time I've ever seen him live and he was brilliant today.

Who is the comparison for Lefrenier who is playing today? Would love to read opinions....thx

Toews at LW!

 

[Maximus]

Toews at LW!

Duly noted...I wasn't going by position...was just going by eyeball test. He seems to have the all around skills defensively and offensively as both Towes and Bergeron.

But OK...what NHL winger does he compare too?

 

[GeorgeKaplan]

Fair enough.

I see the poster child for “all tools, no toolbox”.

I see a guy who's going to come into his own later than most prospects (mid/late 20's) and who is going to drive fans insane until then

 

[JimmyG89]

Duly noted...I wasn't going by position...was just going by eyeball test. He seems to have the all around skills defensively and offensively as both Towes and Bergeron.

But OK...what NHL winger does he compare too?

Chris Kreider*

*Only when being centered by Boo Nieves

 

[Mac n Gs]

Duly noted...I wasn't going by position...was just going by eyeball test. He seems to have the all around skills defensively and offensively as both Towes and Bergeron.

But OK...what NHL winger does he compare too?

He's got the skills of Patrick Kane in Jonathan Huberdeau's body. He's not a physical specimen by any means like with Sid's lower body strength or McDavid's speed, but the kid is just so freaking smart with how fast he processes the game and can see plays before they develop. He's easily one of the best playmaking wingers we've seen in a decade.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Fire Gordie Clark at this point, its undeniable

12 months ago everyone was drooling over Miller

 

[Glen Sathers Cigar]

12 months ago everyone was drooling over Miller

What's the implication here? That people were wrong for being excited about Miller having a great season last year? That he's no longer an exciting prospect because of a lackluster few months this year? That a poster overreacting to Miller not looking amazing is somehow vindication and proof of Miller not being a good prospect? What are you getting at exactly?

 

[STHLM]

Draft Holtz please

 

[GeorgeKaplan]

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

What's the implication here? That people were wrong for being excited about Miller having a great season last year? That he's no longer an exciting prospect because of a lackluster few months this year? That a poster overreacting to Miller not looking amazing is somehow vindication and proof of Miller not being a good prospect? What are you getting at exactly?

That Gordie Clark should be fired for drafting Miller for some reason. Ridiculous

 

[JT Kreider]

What's the implication here? That people were wrong for being excited about Miller having a great season last year? That he's no longer an exciting prospect because of a lackluster few months this year? That a poster overreacting to Miller not looking amazing is somehow vindication and proof of Miller not being a good prospect? What are you getting at exactly?

My post was a joke about Miller's turnover and awful game overall, but also had a ton of truth in it that Clark should be fired regardless.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

I can count 3 goals Miller was directly responsible for while contributing nothing offensively. Screened Knight on the Foote goal, played the puck instead of the backside on Hayton’s second goal, and then the terrible turnover to Lafreniere. Pathetic. Samuelsson and Stastney didn’t show much but they didn’t throw the game away.

lol only the last one was on him.

Samuelsson was directly responsible for the first goal against and got completely jobbed on the 4th

 

[aufheben]

On the bright side everyone on the mains is crying about the missed penalty instead of Miller’s play.

 

[Glen Sathers Cigar]

That Gordie Clark should be fired for drafting Miller for some reason. Ridiculous

Oh okay, I gotcha.