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NHL Entry Draft 2020 NHL Draft Discussion - PART XI [We got 3-5]
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The smoke is all of the connections to Germany and Stutzle in the LA organization.
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that came out afterwards. When they won the pick, everyone thought Byfield. I still don't think we know either way.
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The connections to Germany and Stutzle were there for years, people outside of LA just didn’t know it, myself included. They talked about Sturm and the Kings presence in Germany shortly after the balls were drawn at the lottery.
I don’t think we do either, and won’t until the draft, or at least to the lead up, though I’d think Stutzle is the odds on favourite right now.
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clearly splitting hairs and going with your own personal preference.
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no problem. I am not so sure. Obviously there is a connection there and Sturm would lean that way, but he would provide his input into the decision. IMO , which doesn't mean anything, they will have a very difficult time passing on Byfield. That combination of size, skill, speed doesn't come by very often. I agree there is smoke but I would love to be a fly on the wall while they break that down and make a decision.
nah dude he is literally a crosby clone and i mean future point totals as well. they will have veeerrrrrryyy similar careers
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Why Quinton Byfield at 1st Overall Isn’t All That Crazy
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Well he led the CHL in scoring so I can't agree with offensive upside. He doesn't have explosive skating but he is not slow by any measure. He has the highest hockey IQ alongside Perfetti in the draft. He also has the best face-off winning % amongst the top centres in the draft and plays much better defensively than most of the top 10 projections outside of Lundell.
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My post was referring to the offensive haloed compared to Crosby. But I know burrow didn’t mean that.
He doesn’t have better hockey IQ than Lafreniere
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I would have to check on that. I am not sure if any of the middle to late round prospects that I have been drawn to are UND commits. But to the larger point drafting prospects with an NCAA commitment does have its advantages. For example if a prospect is drafted out of the CHL (assuming it is a first year eligible) the team that drafts them has two seasons to make a decisions whether to give them a contract or not. If they don't offer them a contract then they re-enter the draft. If they are offered a contract an ELC is 3 years and each year of the contract only counts if they play professionally. So technically they can play another season in the CHL before their contract takes effect.
Alternatively a prospect drafted with an NCAA commitment, the team retains their rights until they have completed their NCAA career. As a result a first year eligible prospect can play another season in the league they are currently in (or another league that maintains their eligibility) and then play 4 seasons in the NCAA before being offered a contract.
This can be an important factor in evaluating overage prospects. Again will compare CHL to NCAA commits. In the CHL a 2nd year draft eligible still has 2 seasons remaining in the CHL and a 3rd year eligible only has one season remaining. Therefore if a team drafts one they have less time to make a decision on whether to offer that prospect a contract. As a result teams will need to factor in how much contract space they have, how comfortable are they in offering that prospect a contract and how close they are to turning professional. Alternatively, a 2nd or 3rd year draft eligible prospect that has an NCAA commitment can still play 4 seasons in the NCAA and the team can retain their rights without being required to offer them a contract.
When it comes to overage prospects a few factors that could come into play would be whether an organization prefers developing a specific prospect in their farm team or through the NCAA, how much time it will take for the prospect to develop, how long it will take the prospect to perform at the AHL level, what kind of opportunities will be available on their farm team and how will that impact the development of those prospects. For example it could be better for a raw overage forward prospect to have a chance to be a top six or 1st line forward in the NCAA then for them to play a bottom six role in the AHL.
So this isn't about simply saving money. It is about being intelligent with managing the amount of contracts on hand, identifying the best routes of development for each prospect, and stratifying when prospects turn professional.
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Stutzle or Byfield. Can’t wait to see which one we get. Equally excited for both.
I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest if Stutzle was drafted by the Kings, but I don't consider L.A.'s assistant coach being German and the team owner's grandfather being an ethnic German from Russia to be a particularly strong "German connection."
Why doesn’t he? And you’re underrating his shot.
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The plan at the end of the 2nd article is interesting...
From what I remember, Malkin only started in the NHL when he was 20 because of the lockout and because of some kind of transfer issue with him playing in Russia.
Waiting for Byfield to match the technical mastery of Malkin before being a regular is a massive ask. I just don't see it unless there are external forces that prevent his arrival to the NHL.
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Would Byfield be AHL eligible after one more season in the OHL? Joe Veleno was able to play this past season in the AHL even though it was his 19-20 year old season which would normally mean he has to go back to major junior. If I'm understanding it correctly that was only possible because the player received exceptional status so wouldn't Byfield only have to do one more OHL season then he could be moved to the AHL?
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No I do not believe so . 20/21 will be his 3rd season. Veleno played 4 in the Q
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It is when said team is said to have had the largest scouting and management group in Germany throughout the year, unless I misread/heard.
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For some reason I thought Byfield was granted exceptional status but I guess I made that up. Thanks for the clarification!
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Because Laf has the best IQ in the draft. He’s a step ahead of everyone else. He’s like Stone but actually a good slater. His shot is OK but he’s a playmaker first, not a sniper. Perfetti has a much better shot for example and Rossi doesn’t have that Crosby backhander.
Rossi is a good prospect but IMO probably the most overrated one in this fanbase
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Lol it’s like when people said Detroit would take him 1st because they picked a German last year
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