NHL Entry Draft 2020 NHL Draft Discussion - PART XI [We got 3-5]

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i wonder if we draft a forward for their shot. i mean weve been missing a big shot at forward, (not that this team utilizes one timers on the PP anyway) but someone like brisson, or foerster in the second.
 
well classic Burrowsaurus analysis here but, i think villeneuve looks really weird on the ice. skating, stickhandling. Benning looks smoother, and i like that bennings has almost identical points to Cale Makar playing in the same league in his draft year (guilty of stat watching). but we did tatke JBD out of there two years ago,

I know you admitted to stat watching, but Benning is not close to Makar. Visually, it is just obvious. I have been watching the AJHL since grade one (22 now), and I have never seen a player do the things Makar was doing, but I didn't follow the 2017 draft year too much.

Even statistically, Benning's production was largely driven by PP points. JBD had a much higher EV1/GP than Benning. I can't find any data on Makar, but I'd guess he was well ahead of Benning. Makar had twice the amount of goals as Benning, and JBD had 8 more goals than Benning. The above stats might suggest that both Makar and JBD had greater direct involvement in creating offence.

I'd take Savoie before Benning. I'd have Benning as third-rounder. He can move the puck well (and a lot), and he has good offensive instincts, but his gap-control is brutal and his decision making can be really questionable. Gap-control can be fixed, but decision making is concerning. His physical tools are also nothing to make note of. The best realistic outcome for him is that he is an offensive bottom pair guy that can also contribute on the PP.

I'd be shocked if we drafted Savoie, but if he can learn how to compete at a higher level, he should be able to be a top-nine scoring winger.
 
I know you admitted to stat watching, but Benning is not close to Makar. Visually, it is just obvious. I have been watching the AJHL since grade one (22 now), and I have never seen a player do the things Makar was doing, but I didn't follow the 2017 draft year too much.

Even statistically, Benning's production was largely driven by PP points. JBD had a much higher EV1/GP than Benning. I can't find any data on Makar, but I'd guess he was well ahead of Benning. Makar had twice the amount of goals as Benning, and JBD had 8 more goals than Benning. The above stats might suggest that both Makar and JBD had greater direct involvement in creating offence.

I'd take Savoie before Benning. I'd have Benning as third-rounder. He can move the puck well (and a lot), and he has good offensive instincts, but his gap-control is brutal and his decision making can be really questionable. Gap-control can be fixed, but decision making is concerning. His physical tools are also nothing to make note of. The best realistic outcome for him is that he is an offensive bottom pair guy that can also contribute on the PP.

I'd be shocked if we drafted Savoie, but if he can learn how to compete at a higher level, he should be able to be a top-nine scoring winger.
oh yeah im not saying i think Benning will be makar. just that noticed that there is a dman with the same to similar stats as makar in the same league. and if i were to swing on a dman (which honestly i dont like this class at all) it would be him. i caught some iso vids of when he played for Canada West(or east?) yeah hes not perfect.
 
Not sure if this has been posted yet, but another top 31 draft ranking, this one has a decent length write up with videos on each guy, though I have only taken a quick look so far.

2020 NHL Draft Rankings: Final Top 31

He also has a few shift by shift videos that I haven't gotten around to watching, so I can't comment on the quality... Your guide to the NHL Draft

He has Laf listed as a 17.93 years, also has Byfield's birth year wrong. Nit pick, but in terms of evaluation I wonder if he has made other mistakes as such in stats/calculations.
 
He has Laf listed as a 17.93 years. Nit pick, but in terms of evaluation I wonder if he has made other mistakes as such in stats/calculations.
I posted this earlier and pointed out that there were a few little mistakes in it. like Jake Sanderson Right Shot Defender. Overall I think its quite good with quite a bit of detail for a free prospects report.
 
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I posted this earlier and pointed out that there were a few little mistakes in it. like Jake Sanderson Right Shot Defender. Overall I think its quite good with quite a bit of detail for a free prospects report.
Yeah lots of little mistakes, but that’s bound to happen in a big write up by a single person who isn’t doing it for a living or profit on their own time.
 
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Well if Ottawa loses out on Byfield it wouldn't be terrible for Ottawa to come away from the top 5 with Stutzle LW & Lundell C who could turn into a very good top six centre. L. Brown, Lundell, Norris & White all fighting for the top 3 centre jobs in Ottawa seems like it could be a win/win & trading the least of them could get Ottawa a good pick in return. Lundell kind of reminds me of Draisaitl for some reason when I see him in videos. He may not be dynamic at any one thing, but he is very good at a whole lot of things.

Lundell has got decent size, very good skater, good hands, good hockey IQ, good vision, good hard shot, good stickhandler, good at faceoffs, good playmaker, he's exactly the kind of very good all around player Ottawa could use IMO. A number of these other guys ahead of him all lack something mostly size, weak defensively, strength & toughness, but this guy has it all. Lundell & Stutzle on the same line someday might just be a dynamic duo scoring top line. We can mix match these nine guys anyway we want to create IMO three very good future NHL lines.

Stutzle - L. Brown - Batherson
Tkuchuk - Norris - Guenther (2021 draft)
Formenton - Lundell - Pinto
 
I dont see why Stutzle wont be a center, unless a team like LA wants him on the wing.

Hes now 89kgs so 6'1 195lbs and skates like the wing. When he played center at WJC he looked great, with his speed, stick handling, and passing ability hes fantastic at exiting the zone and zone entries at the other end. I dont see him liable defensively and he can be physical/grinding. Just needs to work on face offs and hes there

I think Stutzle goes to LA at this point, but if he falls to Ottawa hes our number 1C imo.

Like I've said before, Byfield is a better fit for us and Stutzle is a better fit for LA assuming they are equal. I think that's what will happen but either way were good

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Not sure if this has been posted yet, but another top 31 draft ranking, this one has a decent length write up with videos on each guy, though I have only taken a quick look so far.

2020 NHL Draft Rankings: Final Top 31

He also has a few shift by shift videos that I haven't gotten around to watching, so I can't comment on the quality... Your guide to the NHL Draft

Byfield factored in on 32% of his teams goals.......and he missed 18 out of 63 games.

Lol. Kid is unreal.
 
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Im actively avoiding tristan Robbins highlights if i see anymore im going to have my heart set on drafting him.
 
Someone on the Kings posted this.. I hope this does happen

Doubt this happens, but it would be interesting:
- Coyotes lose in the play in round
- But win the lottery for 1OA
- They lose that pick as punishment for their fitness testing debacle
- LA moves to #1 and we can stop having the Byfield/Stützle discussion.

I know this will never happen, but it so bored without hockey, my mind wanders a lot.​
 
LA should just come out and say who they're drafting at #2, no need to drag out the speculation for the next 3+ months. They have their pick of anyone not named Lafreniere so it's not like they need to play mind games to get the player they want a la Brian Burke at the Kadri/Cowen draft.
 
LA should just come out and say who they're drafting at #2, no need to drag out the speculation for the next 3+ months. They have their pick of anyone not named Lafreniere so it's not like they need to play mind games to get the player they want a la Brian Burke at the Kadri/Cowen draft.

They probably have an idea who they want but they could be deliberating a few things. Rob Blake on Friedman's podcast said that they are taking a good look at 4 guys. You have to imagine they are doing their homework on those guys they are looking at.
 
Someone on the Kings posted this.. I hope this does happen

On the other hand, I'd rather not have Stutzle or Byfield go to our division rival Detroit. The difference between having picks 2/4 and 3/5 is probably negligible for Ottawa at this point.
 
well classic Burrowsaurus analysis here but, i think villeneuve looks really weird on the ice.

I think people are too low on Villeneuve for that exact reason. His draft stock has been hurt by the fact that he was playing on a young Saint John team that was not playing much defence.

I'm no skating expert but I think some of his issues stem from the fact that he skates very hunched over and ends up using his stick almost like a tripod. It forces him to choke up on his stick which seems to give him less control over the puck. That being said his straight-line skating is very good and he makes the simple plays to help his team. I think his skating and general awkwardness on the ice will improve once you get him working with an NHL caliber skating coach and once he puts on some weight.
 
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On the other hand, I'd rather not have Stutzle or Byfield go to our division rival Detroit. The difference between having picks 2/4 and 3/5 is probably negligible for Ottawa at this point.
I heard somewhere that Detroit wants a D Man. If the Arizona thing happened, we could offer them #4 & NYI pick for #3
 
Could be good but so much inexperience and no #1 C

I believe Brown is going to round out his game and become a 1C.

When he was playing with Stone (who is a phenomenal player) I was always impressed. I just don’t think he got a fair shake. Maybe because he was younger at the time. I think he makes the team this year and starts to prove himself
 
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I believe Brown is going to round out his game and become a 1C.

When he was playing with Stone (who is a phenomenal player) I was always impressed. I just don’t think he got a fair shake. Maybe because he was younger at the time. I think he makes the team this year and starts to prove himself
I mean he even looked ok with Brady and duclair. Especially on the PP. we will see.
 
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I believe Brown is going to round out his game and become a 1C.

When he was playing with Stone (who is a phenomenal player) I was always impressed. I just don’t think he got a fair shake. Maybe because he was younger at the time. I think he makes the team this year and starts to prove himself
He's got a long way to go to be a legit #1 Centre. Odds are 50/50 he becomes a good #2.
 
LA should just come out and say who they're drafting at #2, no need to drag out the speculation for the next 3+ months. They have their pick of anyone not named Lafreniere so it's not like they need to play mind games to get the player they want a la Brian Burke at the Kadri/Cowen draft.
Well alot can happen in 3 months.
Also no reason for them to disclose. Let's say they love Drysdale but the Wings really want Stutzle. They can trade picks (#4 for #2) with the Wings ,get another solid asset or 2 , and still get the guy they wanted.
 
I hate to be Mr. Negative but Logan Brown might be on the trade block sooner than later if he doesn't show progress this year. There are others that are ahead of him already.
 
i really like Marat khusnutdinov but if we end up taking 2 centers in the first i doubt we go back to that well i mean i get its always good to have more centers but at a certain point you gotta say" k lets go to another position"\

Center is the most versatile position. You move them to the wing no problem especially if they’re good skaters.
 
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