Draft 2020 Draft & Undrafted Free Agent Thread: Part VI

[GeorgeKaplan]

the more dmen plus askarov that go in the top 20ish the better...increases the chances of a forward dropping to our pick or a pick close enough that we could possible trade up for.

I don't doubt they're going to be going in that range, I'm just saying they don't do it for me personally

 

[Joey Bones]

Consensus of 33 mocks has Guhle at 22 with a range of 17-43. Maybe, maybe not.

I've expressed this before, but I'm not too hugely invested on Guhle. Think he overthinks the game at times and gets caught on the emotional side of things. He'll sometimes go out and make a big hit that would take him out of the play and causes odd-man chances. He would also jump into the rush when he should've stayed back covering the open man. Lapses like that will have him sit in the pros, but hopefully that'll come with time.

 

[Leetch3]

I don't doubt they're going to be going in that range, I'm just saying they don't do it for me personally

I'll never say no to more defensive depth in the system but we need to build up our forward depth so no issues with not wanting those guys

 

[Brooklyn Rangers Fan]

I don't think I'm really that into any of the 4 defenseman we've talked about to go in the top 20ish or so

Conversely, Sanderson intrigues me a lot in the top 10, and Guhle a lot in the 11-31 range. And as an advocate of the BPA philosophy, I'd take either of them if they were head and shoulders above everyone else when the Rangers' pick came up. But with the plethora of outstanding forwards available, I just don't see it happening – unless something crazy transpires, like Sanderson slipping out of the top 10.

 

[UnSandvich]

Of the guys who are likely/possible to be on the board at CAR's pick, I think the 3 I'm most interested in are Gunler, Reichel, and Mysak. I think all 3 have underrated upside

 

[GeorgeKaplan]

Conversely, Sanderson intrigues me a lot in the top 10, and Guhle a lot in the 11-31 range. And as an advocate of the BPA philosophy, I'd take either of them if they were head and shoulders above everyone else when the Rangers' pick came up. But with the plethora of outstanding forwards available, I just don't see it happening – unless something crazy transpires, like Sanderson slipping out of the top 10.

I don't think there would even be that many scenarios where I'd even be mad about the Rangers picking them to be honest, and without the Rangers trading into the top 10 I think I'd even be happy to get a Drysdale or a Sanderson. But yeah, there's so many forwards I find more interesting and that I'd rather take over any of the defensemen and I just feel like the defensemen this year in that range are just kind of blah to me compared to other years

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

The only forwards who may potentially slip out of the top 10 IMO are Rossi (size), Raymond (attitude) and Lundell, though I think someone takes Lundell. I could even see Ottawa taking him at 5 and he has potential landing spots between 7-9.

I would go through hell and high water to get Rossi in addition to Lafreniere. Same goes for Sanderson if he were to fall out of the top 10.

 

[Leetch3]

The only forwards who may potentially slip out of the top 10 IMO are Rossi (size), Raymond (attitude) and Lundell, though I think someone takes Lundell. I could even see Ottawa taking him at 5 and he has potential landing spots between 7-9.

I would go through hell and high water to get Rossi in addition to Lafreniere. Same goes for Sanderson if he were to fall out of the top 10.

what are the attitude issues with raymond? also thought that rossi and raymond were projected to go top 5/6?

 

[Joey Bones]

You know, there isn't a lot of talk on Zion Nybeck here. He'll definitely be considered a reach at No. 21-24, but if the Rangers are looking for a potential homerun pick, ala Perreault or Khusnutdinov like, Nybeck should be in that conversation, too.

5'8"/176lbs., but has a strong lower body and uses it in the corners. Very good balance with and without the puck, definitely is tough to knock down. What excites me most, though, is that he has a very good first step and could gain an extra gear with proper development. That along with very good agility and quick feet would make him incredibly shifty and dangerous. He already has pretty slick hands, shot and creativity, but needs more experience with it in the SHL.

Could be a very worth while boom/bust prospect.

 

[aufheben]

Zion Nybeck just sounds like the kind of prospect who, 5 years from now, we won’t even remember drafting him.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Zion Nybeck just sounds like the kind of prospect who, 5 years from now, we won’t even remember drafting him.

He's flying under the radar a lot, yes

 

[eco's bones]

You know, there isn't a lot of talk on Zion Nybeck here. He'll definitely be considered a reach at No. 21-24, but if the Rangers are looking for a potential homerun pick, ala Perreault or Khusnutdinov like, Nybeck should be in that conversation, too.

5'8"/176lbs., but has a strong lower body and uses it in the corners. Very good balance with and without the puck, definitely is tough to knock down. What excites me most, though, is that he has a very good first step and could gain an extra gear with proper development. That along with very good agility and quick feet would make him incredibly shifty and dangerous. He already has pretty slick hands, shot and creativity, but needs more experience with it in the SHL.

Could be a very worth while boom/bust prospect.

I think I'd rather a bigger player and a safer pick. Looking at who could be our wingers for the next several years---Panarin, Lafreniere, Kakko, Kreider, Buchnevich(?)--it's like we already have our top 6 wingers in place and I don't see a guy like Nybeck being reason to move any of the above out. My sleeper would be another Swedish player Daniel Torgersson (though I also like Emil Heineman) who could also potentially challenge for a 2nd line wing job some day but who could more easily slide into a 3rd line wing position. Torgersson's already 6'2/6'3 200 lbs. and has a well rounded game and is a very good skater. To me he's pretty safe to play in the NHL and at worse his floor might be a bigger, stronger version of Jesper Fast.

In general I don't see a good reason for us to gamble here. Going forward we're going to have a very talented team--we should focus on areas we need to get stronger at and deepen the team. Whenever we can--add to the size and grit quotient so as to get harder to play against. If one of your favorites Dylan Holloway was still around I would say yeah to him too---very good size, good compete, skates very well. I would always keep in mind roles that a player could fit into if he doesn't hit his ceiling. To me guys like Torgersson and Holloway could check a lot of boxes like that.

 

[OriginalLimbo]

Consensus of 33 mocks has Guhle at 22 with a range of 17-43. Maybe, maybe not.

Hey, do you mind providing a link to that? Pretty sure I saw it once but don’t remember where it is. Thanks!

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

what are the attitude issues with raymond? also thought that rossi and raymond were projected to go top 5/6?

He Pouted/dogged it after being demoted.

Rossi has been ranked everywhere from 3-8. But someone always falls and if I had to pick this year's slider, it would be him because he isn't big.

 

[usekakkorightquinn]

I would think the Rangers will look to draft a big, physical forward with speed who is a fairly safe bet to play on the bottom 6, kill penalties and provide solid defense so they can keep rotating the bottom 2 lines for years with inexpensive talent.

 

[Ghost of jas]

I think I'd rather a bigger player and a safer pick. Looking at who could be our wingers for the next several years---Panarin, Lafreniere, Kakko, Kreider, Buchnevich(?)--it's like we already have our top 6 wingers in place and I don't see a guy like Nybeck being reason to move any of the above out. My sleeper would be another Swedish player Daniel Torgersson (though I also like Emil Heineman) who could also potentially challenge for a 2nd line wing job some day but who could more easily slide into a 3rd line wing position. Torgersson's already 6'2/6'3 200 lbs. and has a well rounded game and is a very good skater. To me he's pretty safe to play in the NHL and at worse his floor might be a bigger, stronger version of Jesper Fast.

In general I don't see a good reason for us to gamble here. Going forward we're going to have a very talented team--we should focus on areas we need to get stronger at and deepen the team. Whenever we can--add to the size and grit quotient so as to get harder to play against. If one of your favorites Dylan Holloway was still around I would say yeah to him too---very good size, good compete, skates very well. I would always keep in mind roles that a player could fit into if he doesn't hit his ceiling. To me guys like Torgersson and Holloway could check a lot of boxes like that.

I see no reason not to, especially when you're just about guaranteed to get the best player available. You have eight additional picks to add safer players.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

I would think the Rangers will look to draft a big, physical forward with speed who is a fairly safe bet to play on the bottom 6, kill penalties and provide solid defense so they can keep rotating the bottom 2 lines for years with inexpensive talent.

Sure, in the later rounds, that's a great target

 

[LaffyTaffy]

I would think the Rangers will look to draft a big, physical forward with speed who is a fairly safe bet to play on the bottom 6, kill penalties and provide solid defense so they can keep rotating the bottom 2 lines for years with inexpensive talent.

This isnt rlly something you do in the 1st round but if they want someone on the tougher side I’d suggest Ridley Greig.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

This isnt rlly something you do in the 1st round but if they want someone on the tougher side I’d suggest Ridley Greig.

I've been pushing for this.

Hes an absolute prick to play against, has some skill and is a bit crazy.

 

[eco's bones]

I've been pushing for this.

Hes an absolute prick to play against, has some skill and is a bit crazy.

FWIW I'd be happy with Greig too. The Rangers could use more combative players who can actually play a regular shift. I would consider Greig a safe pick too and I see his floor as a 3rd line wing. We could use a guy like him. Better us than Washington, Boston or the Flyers pick him up instead.

 

[Mikos87]

I would think the Rangers will look to draft a big, physical forward with speed who is a fairly safe bet to play on the bottom 6, kill penalties and provide solid defense so they can keep rotating the bottom 2 lines for years with inexpensive talent.

IMO- it's the above, or they go for a big boom of a pick that you will have to wait until he's 22-23 to really come onto his own. Both are good options, that reliable cheap asset that can play that utility role ala Holloway or JJP.

Or you go for the boom. If you don't trade for a second that is. You can have both if you get a 2nd round pick. Teams like LA and OTT have a bunch. There are a lot of high upside picks this year.

There is going to be a world class skater at that 21 slot. I think getting two picks from 36-57 can be really really good for the organization. Even if you trade down from 21 to 25 you can get a second in that range. That wouldn't be too shabby of a move if you can pull it off and get the known quantity, and still get a boom without reaching for it.

 

[bobbop]

Hey, do you mind providing a link to that? Pretty sure I saw it once but don’t remember where it is. Thanks!

Here you go

 

[RickChartraw]

To think I was excited for games starting last year w/ Panarin and Kakko added. Now we add Lafrenyr. I trust JD to get us there. #Oh Baby!

 

[aufheben]

Here you go

Thanks for sharing. Do have the web link so I can print it out?

lol @ whoever Cam Robinson is

 

[aufheben]

(1) Alexis Lafreniere, LW
(23) Tyson Foerster, C
(71) Luke Tuch, LW
(85) Brandon Coe, RW
(102) Oliver Suni, RW
(133) Riley Duran, C
(164) Blake Biondi, C
(195) Jake Boltmann, RD
(196) Daniil Zaitsev, LD
(204) Lassi Lehtinen, G