Yup, you nailed it. I have lost a lot of faith and respect for BA today. I guess I should say the organization.
Prospect Info: 2020 Draft #111 - Mitchell Miller (RHD) [Mod Warning post #312]
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True. I'm included in jumping to conclusions here, but this team is talking out of both sides of their mouth here. Two wrongs don't make a right. I had no problem with the Coyotes drafting Miller, but I have problems with how everything has unfolded since then.
It was an outstanding draft choice. Coyotes stole a guy that should have been taken in the 2nd round. Having had to forfeit their earlier picks, this was a brilliant consolation.
Then they lacked the conviction to stand behind a damn fine hockey move and capitulated to cancel culture. Might as well have skipped the draft entirely.
Then they lacked the conviction to stand behind a damn fine hockey move and capitulated to cancel culture. Might as well have skipped the draft entirely.
That's what the mother said, but I don't think ever proven. Courts should protect minors, not leave them to wolves for the rest of their life. What Miller did was wrong and disgusting but these kids should be in programs to correct this type of behavior, and if they don't change, let the adult courts decide their punishment then.
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When will you understand that the lack of forgiveness only hurts them? Your scenario will have this situation eating at them for the rest of their lives.
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I thought the reason why this had not made it out into the national media as much was because the two individuals were charged in juvenile court, and wound up pleading guilty. I guess that if they did not, the video evidence of what went down in the fight would also be exposed.
Seems like the optimal thing for Miller was to do just enough damage control to make it seem as if though a lesson had been learned. People can worm their way out of things, and hope that it doesn't come up. Really hard to do nowadays.
I think that the best thing for UND would be to have Miller redshirt the season and be with a counselor/sports psychologist through all of freshman year. Have a leadership team on the roster that informs them of any deviation from his track. Then, the determination of when he starts playing is up to an effort of the coaches, teammates, and leadership to determine if Miller has succeeded in helping himself.
So, if they are at a party, and Miller gets drunk and says some disparaging comments on race, that gets brought back to coaches and sports psychologists to work with. Doesn't mean he is a lost cause, but the hope is that this renouncement of his rights is the first step in helping Miller understand that there are consequences to actions. Earning the trust of those who are around your actions is something that Miller has not been exposed to, until now.
That is where I am saying, the last thing for Miller should be regarding his hockey skills. Life skills and being a better person should be at the forefront.
Also, by being away from the situation in Cedar Rapids and Tri-City, it is easy to state that because there were no problems there, it is a non-issue. Well, all it takes is one moment to feel disrespected in any new location, and this kid may fly off the handle. He just happened to be able to get around that because the victim was not in the same town. If the victim were in the same town as Miller, you better believe that this would be continuing.
Seems like the optimal thing for Miller was to do just enough damage control to make it seem as if though a lesson had been learned. People can worm their way out of things, and hope that it doesn't come up. Really hard to do nowadays.
I think that the best thing for UND would be to have Miller redshirt the season and be with a counselor/sports psychologist through all of freshman year. Have a leadership team on the roster that informs them of any deviation from his track. Then, the determination of when he starts playing is up to an effort of the coaches, teammates, and leadership to determine if Miller has succeeded in helping himself.
So, if they are at a party, and Miller gets drunk and says some disparaging comments on race, that gets brought back to coaches and sports psychologists to work with. Doesn't mean he is a lost cause, but the hope is that this renouncement of his rights is the first step in helping Miller understand that there are consequences to actions. Earning the trust of those who are around your actions is something that Miller has not been exposed to, until now.
That is where I am saying, the last thing for Miller should be regarding his hockey skills. Life skills and being a better person should be at the forefront.
Also, by being away from the situation in Cedar Rapids and Tri-City, it is easy to state that because there were no problems there, it is a non-issue. Well, all it takes is one moment to feel disrespected in any new location, and this kid may fly off the handle. He just happened to be able to get around that because the victim was not in the same town. If the victim were in the same town as Miller, you better believe that this would be continuing.
I'm so tired of social media, BLM and all this racist BS. Everyone is coming to their own conclusions here, me included, without knowing all the FACTS. It's done, the kids were punished by the courts. We all are making all these kids and families lives worse, not better. We may not like the punishment by the courts, but it is what it is. Life is not fair. Let these kids and families try to get their life back together so they can live a somewhat normal life.
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Imagine how tired of it the victims are.
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Miller no longer part of UND's hockey programme:
Mitchell Miller no longer a part of UND hockey team | Grand Forks Herald
Mitchell Miller no longer a part of UND hockey team | Grand Forks Herald
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Somebody called the over/under earlier in the thread at 1 day. Nailed it.
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He should have some background in sports management. He's unqualified for his role. He should have been brought on as CFO, or a real estate advisor. His handling of this proves he shouldn't be the CEO handling some PR duties. His role should be behind the scenes working on an arena and finance, which is his specialty.
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Official statement from UND:
Should note: according to the UND president's statement, he made the call after talking to Miller himself. Just in case you might be thinking this is a knee-jerk cancel culture moment.
Should note: according to the UND president's statement, he made the call after talking to Miller himself. Just in case you might be thinking this is a knee-jerk cancel culture moment.
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Blaming XG or Army is dumb. The one at fault here is the scout who pushed for this selection. He should be gone.
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If he were a hockey ops guy yes. It isn’t a requirement if you’re working to get a new arena built.
But as the CEO he’s still the last stop before the owner and is the main spokesperson for ownership.
He’s the guy who ownership trusts the most... period. You don’t have to like it.
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I disagree. I think the scouts did a good job. If they’re convinced his character issues are behind him, and he’s clearly the best player there, I expect scouts to recommend the pick. PR and media/ownership appeasing is why the GM is supposed to be at the table. We didn’t have a GM.
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There is no excuse for Sullivan and Scott Walker not knowing better.
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