2020/21 Roster Thread

[bobbythebrain]

Cernak is a good defenseman though. Good passer, skater, excellent at defending entries, & just defending in every aspect. I can understand haviang an aversion to defense-first defenseman but he’s a giant eraser. Those have value

Never forget. The NHL is about scoring points. You only win games when you outscore your opponent. There is only value in players who can produce, cuz that is what the NHL is all about. Czernak has less value than Barrie cuz he will never outproduce him.

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[DancingPanther]

Never forget. The NHL is about scoring points. You only win games when you outscore your opponent. There is only value in players who can produce, cuz that is what the NHL is all about. Czernak has less value than Barrie cuz he will never outproduce him.

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Great post

Never forget, the NHL is about scoring more goals than your opponent. Valuable players are the ones where their team 1) produces more offense when they are on the ice, 2) yield less offense against when they are on the ice, or 3) both

Hagg is the 4th option: neither

 

[bobbythebrain]

Great post

Never forget, the NHL is about scoring more goals than your opponent. Valuable players are the ones where their team 1) produces more offense when they are on the ice, 2) yield less offense against when they are on the ice, or 3) both

Hagg is the 4th option: neither

Great post. Never forget, players like Coots, who didn't provide more goals, yet who are able to stifle offense when they are on the ice w/ less minutes and lesser teammates.

Nobody was talking about Hagg

 

[DancingPanther]

Great post. Never forget, players like Coots, who didn't provide more goals, yet who are able to stifle offense when they are on the ice w/ less minutes and lesser teammates.

Nobody was talking about Hagg

Great post. You missed point #2. You also missed....points #1 and #3?

No one was talking about Hagg, but people talk about Hagg between the lines. Along with other useless players.

 

[DancingPanther]

Would I be right in assuming that this is another buzz guy who followed you over here?

Choo got against buzz guys hmm?

 

[ybnvs]

I'm sure @ybnvs can teach you how to make a mean veggie only stir fry or something.

You better f***ing believe it buster!

Sub out that rice grain in place of cauliflower rice. Heavenly divine.

Wanna lose weight? Eat whatever you want. Drink water. Watch the caloric intake. Simple.

 

[Kelmitchell2]

The only man who could coach this team to the promise land is Gordon Bombay, that mans coaching really speaks for itself, he has a Fast paced, up tempo style that is really fun to watch, he's won in the peewee leagues, he's won in the international level, I'm 1000% sure his coaching would translate very well into the nhl!
#fireAv #HireGordonBombay #qauckqauckqauck

 

[Kelmitchell2]

You mean York.

Wouldn't go that Far yet, he hasn't even played an nhl game yet

 

[Kelmitchell2]

I might be agreeable to a little shuffling, I don't think you play Frost or Farabee on the 4th line, and I'm wary of Patrick forechecking as his primary role, I mean he could play Vorobyev style 4C . . . .

So if you want the kids to have regular shifts in the top 9, you may have to move someone out.

Conversely, you have to decide if Bunnaman is ready to be your 4C, or do you want to buy a year with a veteran patch (someone much better than Thompson on a one year deal). He's only 22, and it's a role that requires both energy (which he has) and defensive discipline (which he's learning).

You do know that now a days you dont need a grinding line, you can have 4 skill lines, maybe you should come out of the dark ages, you're still obsessed with (weirdly I may add) guy's height and weight

 

[wankstifier]

And re-sign the Ponderosa?

That sounds like a saloon, so my expectations are low.

 

[Flyer lurker]

Never forget. The NHL is about scoring points. You only win games when you outscore your opponent. There is only value in players who can produce, cuz that is what the NHL is all about. Czernak has less value than Barrie cuz he will never outproduce him.

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Can we start advocating trading Myers for Yandle next?

 

[Flyer lurker]

I’m down to offer sheet Tampa for Cernak. He’s a great defense-first defenseman. Probably a pipe dream. I just enjoy watching him shut shit down

If offer sheets truly are a thing I would love to offer the 4m 2nd round pick for him. Even if I lost in ED it would be worth losing the 2 as a rental (as compared to the lovely 2 and 3 rental price of Braun).

 

[BiggE]

The defense I want

Provy-Ghost
Sanheim-Myers
Zamula-Niskanen
Friedman

The defense we’ll probably get

Provy-Niskanen
Sanheim-Myers
Hagg-Veteran turd
Friedman

 

[ajgoal]

That sounds like a saloon, so my expectations are low.

It was (is) a steakhouse with a salad and side buffet.

 

[deadhead]

Never forget. The NHL is about scoring points. You only win games when you outscore your opponent. There is only value in players who can produce, cuz that is what the NHL is all about. Czernak has less value than Barrie cuz he will never outproduce him.

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It's about scoring more points than the other team.
Some cup winners are offensive juggernauts, some have been defensive stalwarts.

It's like PP v PK, they are mirror images, a guy who scores more than average on the PP is no more valuable than a guy who helps keep the other team from scoring.

If you don't score you can't win, if you can't play defense, you're not going to win either.

So it comes down to balance, elite two way players are very rare, so you have to balance offensive players with some deficiencies on defense with defensive players who are mediocre on offense.

However, top offensive players who are defensive liabilities get paid far more than top defensive players who are ciphers on offense - which means in a cap constrained world, the worst value are offensive players who don't play defense.

 

[Starat327]

I always find it cute when dumb people try to sound smart.

 

[Chinatown88]

 

[Striiker]

Choo got against buzz guys hmm?

Nothing. I just notice a handful of them seem to hate @Magua and have gone out of their way to come on here to send him messages.

Darth Vader, rinaldo, this guy, and I believe there was another one a little while back whose name I can’t remember.

To be honest, I’m just a little offended Magua gets more hate mail than I do.

 

[BritainStix]

I always find it cute when dumb people try to sound smart.

Weird flex, I find arrogance to be a key identifier for fools.

On another note the elitism thats projected by individuals that don't leave their mothers basement even more so....

Each to their own.

 

[deadhead]

You do know that now a days you dont need a grinding line, you can have 4 skill lines, maybe you should come out of the dark ages, you're still obsessed with (weirdly I may add) guy's height and weight

Name a team with four skilled lines.

The problem is that there are only so many skilled players, when you start playing guys with mediocre offensive skills and defensive liabilities, that's far worse than playing an "energy" line.

 

[deadhead]

Great post

Never forget, the NHL is about scoring more goals than your opponent. Valuable players are the ones where their team 1) produces more offense when they are on the ice, 2) yield less offense against when they are on the ice, or 3) both

Hagg is the 4th option: neither

Problem is what team has six "positive" defensemen.

Look at Dallas: they have their top 4, then Sekera, Fedun, Hanley and Johns.

Tampa is an exception, they go 5 deep, and while they've gotten good playoffs out of Schenn and Bogosian, if Fletcher signed either this off-season there would be much gnashing of teeth.

 

[Starat327]

Nothing. I just notice a handful of them seem to hate @Magua and have gone out of their way to come on here to send him messages.

Darth Vader, rinaldo, this guy, and I believe there was another one a little while back whose name I can’t remember.

To be honest, I’m just a little offended Magua gets more hate mail than I do.

You gotta start trying harder.

 

[ajgoal]

I’m down to offer sheet Tampa for Cernak. He’s a great defense-first defenseman. Probably a pipe dream. I just enjoy watching him shut shit down

I like it. Given his counting stats, you might not even need to go that high to sign him to a deal Tampa can't match. You have to figure Sergachev is a bigger priority for them on the defensive side.

 

[Striiker]

@JojoTheWhale Hey remember that “winning in the margins” conversation? About how you have to try to get any edge possible over other teams?

Would refusing to ice 6 good defensemen or 4 dangerous lines simply because other teams are unable to ice 6 good defensemen or 4 dangerous lines be a good example of that? Is it better to just not even try?

Just curious.

 

[deadhead]

Of course, that assumes that Ghost is a "good" defenseman.

And that a fourth line centered by Bunnaman or Frost would be dangerous to the other team, but not the Flyers.